KDE 3.2.2 Released

An anonymous reader writes "The KDE Project today announced the immediate availability of KDE 3.2.2, a maintenance release for the 'advanced and powerful free desktop for GNU/Linux and other UNIXes'. The new version provides corrections of problems reported using the KDE bug tracking system and enhanced support for existing translations. Mirrors found here."

Comments

WOOOO

[qed123]

I just compiled 3.2.1 this weekend!!! :)

Re:WOOOO

[Dr.Dubious DDQ]

Jeez, keep up with the times, will you! I mean, how hard is it REALLY to keep a local copy of the CVS tree on your local hard drive and recompile every night from there? Sheesh!

(And the sad thing is that, although I'm joking, this isn't too far off of what I actually DO....)

First "Just emerged 3.2.1!" post!

[Otter]

Man, Gentoo over a dialup connection has its drawbacks! And I don't want to even think about the update to OpenOffice that just appeared in portage.

On the plus side, I do get to try out every last point release of gawk and grep.

Re:First "Just emerged 3.2.1!" post!

[MrHanky]

Stop complaining! At least you're not using Debian, like I do. Even Debian Unstable is still at ... Hey! I'm already using KDE 3.2.2, and I haven't even updated today! Well, at least the editor Kate is still at 3.2.1.

Wanna compare grep versions? Mine is at 2.5.1.

Sorry, someone had to say it

[sn0wman3030]

Disclaimer: This is not intended to be a flame, but it may piss off some of the "K" zealots. If you don't like it, don't read it.

Does anyone else ever notice how arrogant the KDE announcements are? They make statements like this: "The KDE Project today announced the immediate availability of KDE 3.2.2, a maintenance release for the latest generation of the most advanced and powerful free desktop for GNU/Linux and other UNIXes."

Now, I really wouldn't care, but it might misslead some users. It sounds as if there are no decent alternatives. Apple got slammed for making similar claims about their G5, why isn't it such a big deal in the open source world.

I don't know, maybe I am being too picky

Another disclaimer: I like and use both GNOME and KDE, so I am not biased about this issue.

Re:Sorry, someone had to say it

[lambent]

A wise man once said, "If you don't like it, don't read it."

As for the veracity of their obviously hyperbole-laden claims, I'd be happy if I could get the freaking PDF embedding to work right in konqueror.

But really, do you expect them to say something like, "KDE ... not really the best at what it is, nor is it the most powerful, but we'd sure like you to give it a try, anyway"

Marketing 101: your product is the best. Apple got in trouble because they said their computers are the fastest, which is quite easily disputed.

Saying that your stuff is the 'greatest' is rather more subjective.

(BTW: I like KDE, but I absolutely hate the KIO_Slaves.)

Re:Sorry, someone had to say it

[molnarcs]

I don't think they are more arrogant than any business. Your gripe seems to be with this: "most advanced and powerful free desktop for GNU/Linux and other UNIXes." They don't say there are no alternatives, they say they are the best. Prove them wrong before you say they're arrogant. KDE has more features and applications available than the other Window Managers/Desktop Environments combined. Underneath you'll find a clean and component based codebase - and face it, QT is far more advanced than alternative FREE toolkits.

In fact, that's where Bruce Perens was wrong when said QT being GPL, its not as attractive for business as the LGPL gtk. And yes, QT development is very much tied to KDE development (some of the KDE developers also work for Trolltech). So despite now LGPL being considered more free (what a turn of events!), they have every right to claim that KDE is the most advanced Free desktop for gnu/linux and other unices. It has the same technology that the following companies choose to licence, despite the alleged 'high' cost (if they payed, it must be THAT good):

• EPA (European Space Agency)

• Volvo

• Opera

• Adobe

• Sony
• IBM
• NASA
• Boeing
• And a lot more

Of course, there are many points that can be successfully argued in favor of other alternatives, but we don't have to strech the truth too much (unlike other company ads - "Secure By Design" anyone?) to argue that they have the most powerful/advanced desktop solutions. In other words, they are not only do what everyone else does (marketing), but they also do it from a defendable position. There is nothing wrong with that, and you must be from Mars or something to consider it arrogance. (Or, despite the usual 'I'm objective cause I use both' disclaimar, you might be one of those 'G' zealots :-P)

Re:Sorry, someone had to say it

[scrytch]

Does anyone else ever notice how arrogant the KDE announcements are? They make statements like this: "The KDE Project today announced the immediate availability of KDE 3.2.2, a maintenance release for the latest generation of the most advanced and powerful free desktop for GNU/Linux and other UNIXes."

You're right. They should instead follow the usual OSS Software release announcement.

"I just released EDK 0.00001 pre-alpha-test-4. It crashes when starting up, but it's otherwise got most of the features I was looking for. Go ahead and give it a try, but if it doesn't work, go back to using something else."

But I have been trolled, alas.

Re:Sorry, someone had to say it

[Bricklets]

I think currently most users of OSS are generally more knowledgeable of what they actually use than the average computer user (You'd have to be I suppose. You don't want to install an open source trojan, etc.). So when they run across blanketed statements like that, we don't bat an eye because we know in this case exactly how advanced and powerful KDE really is. At least that's how I see it. Good observation though.

Surely this must be old news?!?

[pwagland]

I mean... It's already in Debian! :-)

Re:Surely this must be old news?!?

[Phexro]

KDE CVS gets tagged a week before the announcement is made, so you'll usually see Debian packages before the 'official' release.

KDE On Windows

[osewa77]

Can the KDE Desktop be made to run on Windows, using the available X Servers and maybe MinGW?

Re:KDE On Windows

[Ianoo]

You can run QT if you pay Trolltech $1,000,000.

Re:KDE On Windows

[Bricklets]

Umm, why not just run it on Linux instead? Or if you didn't want to install Linux on your machine, why not just use a CD-bootable Linux distribution like Knoppix?

Re:KDE On Windows

[Anonymous Coward]

I've got a WinXP machine and a Gentoo Linux machine both on my desk, but personally, I'd love to be able to run KDE as an Explorer replacement on Windows. I'm much happier using linux as a desktop, but I'm also a gamer, so I can't really get rid of Windows without sacrificing my main hobby. I'd be pretty happy if there were a way to get the interface of KDE within a Win32 environment. (Not to mention the apps - nearly every day I wish that Quanta ran on Win32 so I could use it at work)

Re:KDE On Windows

[Bricklets]

Can't help you there. I suppose it comes with the terrority. If you use Windows XP, expect to use the Windows XP interface. Personally, I would very much rather have the Mac OSX (Panther) interface in XP. Can't tell you how many times I've pressed F9 while working under Windows.

Re:KDE On Windows

[Anonymous Coward]

Why would you want to do that? Look at the screenshots, is the same basic layout with some eye-candy on top of it. Either stick with windows, or switch to a real operating system.

Re:KDE On Windows

[e8johan]

This is how you do it: http://kde-cygwin.sourceforge.net/qt3-win32/index. php

Oh good

[Anonymous Coward]

I normally would complain about just getting the
previous version of KDE compiled and running on my
ancient Sun box just last week, unfortunately I haven;t
been able to get any version of KDE 3.2.x to run so far.
Maybe this version will work.