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New Darth Vader Costume Revealed in upcoming DVDs
Jethro73 writes "Whether you love or hate the Special Edition only release, you should be excited to see the new Darth Vader costume on the upcoming Trilogy DVD set. Here are some more details on the upcoming DVD set."
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What exactly is all this talk about Han shooting first? I read about it here all the time but I've never been able to figure out what people are talking about.
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a new suit would really interrupt the mood.
I just happened to be watching Attack of the Clones recently, and I noticed something. With the exception of Count Dooku and Mace Windu, most of the other actors look quite bored most of the time, and I can't figure out why.
One thing about the original is that people actually looked as if they were part of the movie. The only scene in Episode II where Obi-Wan is really emotional is when they are pursuing Dooku at the end of the movie.
It just appeared to be a series of storyboards and ideas instead of a cohesive story. The Clone War was cool, but somehow I wonder if it's really worth it to spend umpty millions to put 87 different kinds of laser blasting vehicles on the screen and vast horizons of rendered landscapes when the cantina scene in the original was more interesting.
There are no "Who's gonna fly it?" lines in the new trilogy.
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I for one plan on ripping the tilogy and making my own DVD without the special edition crap. I would keep watching my VHS tapes, but they are wearing out!
Ok here is the backstory on the starships etc. It is covered in a few of the books that I read years ago before the movies beat any semblence of caring out of my system. The Empire is a dictatorship. By the time of Star Wars they have been in decline for many years due to the effects of being a dictatorship. Kind of like how it is still 1820 in North Korea.
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If it's based on a Ralph McQuarrie design, I have faith. A lot of his unused concept art kicks ass.
I hate to say it, but I am a Star Wars Fanboy that just doesn't care anymore. I loved the original three films (4-6), used to play the Star Wars RPG, have read all the novels, etc (yes, my wife tells me to get a life). But I don't even care if Episode 3 ever comes out. After the huge disappointment from eps 1 and 2, we know 3 will suck because Lucas is still involved with it. Does anybody else feel the way I do?
This effect is called 'in media res' which I think is latin for "in the middle." It's how a lot of stories and trilogies are done.
The way it works is that you start in the middle of a story when the confrontation is already underway, and you get some idea of what's going on at the moment. Then they go back to the beginning, usually through a flashback or by having 1 character explain the history of the conflict to another. Then you get the last part and see how the conflict is resolved.
The Odessey is a famous example of this effect. The book begins with Odysseus in a series of conflicts on his way home from Troy. Then he tells the story of how he was called the war and they defeated the Trojans, but he was blown off course on the way home. Then things flash back to his homeward journey, he returns and kills all the guys who've been courting his wife while he was away.
So, assuming Star Wars was intended to be done in media res, the correct order is middle, beginning, end. The series should be viewed 4, 5, 6, then 1, 2, 3, and if they come 7, 8, 9. Lucas just didn't do a good job of showing this.
Is it just me, or was there a disturbing lack of deleted scenes being mentioned in that article?
When I buy the trilogy on DVD, I want the section from ANH with Biggs on Tatooine. I want the bits of the expanded snow monster things in the base on Hoth, and the shots of Lando on the outside of the Millennium Falcon rescuing Luke in ESB. I want the escape to the Falcon from Jabba's palace and the scenes on the *other* command ship at the battle of Endor in ROTJ.
Don't tell me you don't have them, Lucas, because I've seen them for sale on bootleg VHS tapes. If you can restore the Jabba scene in ANH, you can do those too.
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It was kind of clever. Not the first SF universe where things have gone backwards. Battletech comes to mind. I forget which book it was first in but yea Lucas stole it.
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I am NOT a fan of the way that Lucas has changed the character of Han Solo.
For me, part of the original Star Wars saga involved the changes that Han Solo went through thorough the course of the movies.
He WAS a heartless mercenary with loyalty to his ship and His Wookie and that was about it.
The moment when he shows up at the end of "An New Hope" and blasts the Tie Fighters is supposed to show how he has changed, how his motivations and alliances have become altered by his experiences with the rebels.
It makes perfect sense for the Han Solo we meet at the beginning of "A New Hope" to shoot first. He isn't a hero yet, and it's foolish for Lucas to claim that "A hero doesn't do that sort of thing."
Lucas is trying to whitewash the very stories he created, and in so doing he ignores the very precepts of the Journey of the Here that he pompously claims were the foundation of the characters.
Solo begins as a mercenary, and that's all that he is.
By the end he's one of the heros, but he doesn't start as one.
Do some research Lucas. Not even the Buddha started off that way, and a lot of heroes have tragic histories where they weren't exactly heros. Hell, the most interesting heros are the ones that were at one point villains.
I liked Han because he changes. He grows as a sentient being.
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Since the prequels disappointed everyone, and since at this point people can roll-their-own movie on their PCs, why don't we start a 'GNU-SW' and re-do the prequels ourselves? Some changes I'd like to see...
1) More space battles. To me, this, not the creatures, is what makes Star Wars, well Star Wars. In Episode 1, there is more or less one and it was terrible. Yes, I know space battles today are 'easy' and the CG guys want to show off, but I want to be entertained, not impressed.
2) Spacecraft Continuity. Yeah, I know you're trying to show off how computers can make ships with complex geometry. But I like the good old Ralph McQuarrie ships. To me the grimy 'raw' look of the Rebels and the austere design of the Imperials was magic.
3) Less creatures. I mean, having aliens as background is cool, and introducing one or two key ones (e.g. Yoda & Jabba) worked, but to introduce a dozen or so and try to give them personalities just is too much to digest in one movie. Come to think of it, Jabba and Yoda worked better than any CGI creature I've seen to date...
4) Ralph McQuarrie. As much as anything, his artistic genius made Star Wars, well, Star Wars.
5) Story. You know, actually I don't have that big of a problem with the Episode I & II stories if you can strip away the execution. Seemed to me that there was a good foundation that was ruined by execution and stupid details.
Of course, whether a rag-tag Rebel-like team of internet hackers can do better remains to be seen...
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No, according to the series so far, the new Vader costume should look sleeker. Throughout the series design aesthetics have devolved from episode 1 - 3 until they are stripped of style and consist only of practicality and function (Episodes 4 -6).
That's why everything looks sleeker in the first episodes 1 and 2. So it would make sense that Vader's costume would be more streamlined and less practical... i.e. no switches and knobs on his chest.
Streamlined and sleeker does not equate to futuristic just fancy. And the empire ain't no fancy prissy gash fest.
Having read about this topic (and replied to it in disgust) about a thousand times, I can honestly say this is the most thoughtful response to the change in the film I've ever seen.
Here's another thought...Han is *still* a smuggler. He *still* charges an outlandish fee to Luke and Han for ferrying them to Alderaan ("we could almost buy our own ship for that!"). Taken out of context, the Greedo scene makes Han a little "nicer." Unfortunately that's not who Han is at the beginning of the film.
Two more things to consider: Han's shot comes too quickly after Greedo's to have been reflex. he must have shot at the same time as Greedo or a fraction of a second later. Also, there is no way that Greedo, a bounty hunter and professional killer, would have missed at such close range. These facts lead me to believe that this scene, now more of a western-style gunfight, is to underscore the fact that Han very nearly could have died but a higher power (the Force, duh) kept him alive. The scene still shows that the galaxy is a dangerous place, particularly when the criminal underworld is involved. It also still shows that Han is willing to do what is necessary to stay alive (Greedo would certainly have taken a second shot, given the opporunity).
I would argue that the new effect does not change Han's character significantly, and actually adds a little more to the story.
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