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Sex.com Settles Case Against VeriSign
netcentr writes "A press release on CircleID has announced that the owner of the Sex.com domain name today has got 'a final settlement with VeriSign (formerly Network Solutions, Inc.), concluding a six-year legal fight that set several important precedents for the future of the Internet. After the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals granted Sex.Com a sweeping victory that held VeriSign/Network Solutions, Inc. (collectively "VeriSign") strictly responsible for mishandling the famous domain name, Sex.Com and VeriSign have settled Sex.Com's lawsuit against VeriSign.' Gary Kremen was awarded a $65 million judgment against Cohen for stealing the domain name, which the U.S. Supreme Court declined to overturn on June 12, 2003."
no more RTFA
VeriSign is bad news(for years thay would not let you put "fu*k" in your domain name)
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The base VeriSign site:
http://www.recallverisign.com
Check out this page by GoDaddy.com about VeriSign: https://www.godaddy.com/gdshop/PressReleases/inte
http://www.narvakitchens.com/CircleID.pdf
The press release doesn't say whether it was the full $65million or some smaller amount, or how long Verisign would have to pay. Google News has pointers to one or two versions of the press release, plus Slashdot (:-), plus a Wired article that has the press release but also speculated that the settlement is probably a lot less than the full boat, and some comments on Kremen's attempts to track down the assets of Cohen the name thief.
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You can find the decision by the United States Court of Appeal for the Ninth Circuit at:
Kremen, et al. v. Online Classifieds Inc., et al. (pdf warning)
To get the html version, paste this url:
http://www.ca9.uscourts.gov/ca9/newopinions.nsf
into the Adobe PDF Conversion Page.
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$25 million of the award was punitive damages, so presumably, the other $40 million was compensatory (lost profits) and legal fees (probably mostly legal fees).
Interestingly, those damages were awarded by a judge, not a jury. Here's a link. I would've expected a smaller judgement from the bench.
In the mid-late 90s, domain registrars were explicitly avoiding fixing their mistakes on legal counsel's advice, namely that to fix a mistake was to admit liability for that mistake, and to admit liability for that mistake was to open oneself up to damages in the millions. Thus, they all took the legal position that they weren't responsible for anything they did until it was proven otherwise.
Stupid from a common sense point of view, smart from a business point of view. I can think of a lot of domain name fuckups that, could the owner have sued, would have sunk the registrars. As it is, they've avoided huge lawsuits for the last 8 years.
It took a domain name with the potential money behind it of sex.com to push it all the way through the courts to the current situation.
Anyone who loves or hates any language, platform, or manufacturer, doesn't know what they're talking about.
From what I read, Verisign settle the case the original owner. The $65 million award is aganist the guy who stole it. The article didn't say how much Verisign had to paid.
Scrubs actually.
Why is anything anything?
I had just started at a small recruiting shop and he was around in various unspecified capacities. We started talking one night and he was really excited about showing me how he owned sex.com. He did a whois, which had his name, then logged into the sex.com servers and poked around a little. He then bragged about the cashflow and the offers to buy from Playboy, Penthouse and Hustler.
He also asked all the secretaries to pose naked, used the company phones to call Nevada brothels for business advice and other shady activities.
I was later deposed as a witness for a sexual harassment case against the company because of his behavior (he was not an employee but rather an acquaintence of the owner) and the behavior of other sales people. The company's attorneys were in the process of searching for him at that time, which was around 2000 or 2001.
I can't wait for him to finally get caught. He reminds me of Robert Vesco; he's probably funding Al Queda or Russian prostitution rings or something now.
No, that's not it. The $65M judgment was from last year in a case against Cohen, who stole the domain. The article doesn't say what Verisign settled for.
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If you had bothered to paste the first part of the whois you would display the fact that Kremen can not change the domain himself anymore:
Domain Name: SEX.COM
Registrar: NETWORK SOLUTIONS, INC.
Whois Server: whois.networksolutions.com
Referral URL: http://www.networksolutions.com
Name Server: NS2.PERSIANKITTY.COM
Name Server: NS1.SEX.COM
Status: REGISTRAR-LOCK
Updated Date: 03-dec-2003
Creation Date: 18-oct-1995
Expiration Date: 17-oct-2012
I guess it's just going to sit like that until NSI decides that it's time for the real owner to have control back.
"-Who said sit down?!"
-- S. Ballmer @ MSDC 2003.
Once they did steal one of my domains and then sold it back to me for $1,200 under another company name that was owned by Verisign.
Verisign does what they want to do and have been doing it for way too long and getting away with murder.
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