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World's First 1GB Web Mail May Not Be From Google

xPertCodert writes "According to this article, the world's first 1GB web mail is not going to be Google, but from the largest Israeli web portal. With 30Mb per attachment, it seems to be quite useful as well. Looks like an idea of extra-large e-mail storage is becoming really hot these days."

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  1. Attachments? by InvaderXimian · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Why a 30MB attachment limit? They could just say 50TB attachment limit and nothing would really be changed since most mail servers have a 5MB attachment limit, at most. Very few of them have a bigger limit.

  2. How can web portals afford this? by KingOfBLASH · · Score: 4, Interesting

    1 GB is a lot of information, and it has to cost a decent chunk of money to allocate that much storage for every user, and to pay for bandwidth for 30MB attachments, and for the rack space and electricity. How are web portals like google making back the cost of 1GB email?

  3. So what? by Seoulstriker · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Everyone with a Gmail account, including myself, knows that email storage space is not the only part of an effective email system. The Gmail interface is so simplified, efficient, and intuitive, that there will probably not be anything coming out that can compete with it. (ask people who both have Gmail and Spymac and see what they think)

    Not only that, but the Israeli service requires money whereas Gmail is free. I am confident that Gmail will be the only truly successful free gigabyte email service.

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    1. Re:So what? by glinden · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Exactly right. GMail asks and answers the question, "What e-mail client would you build if you never had to delete any of your old e-mail?"

      GMail is designed to organize your information for easy access later. Messages are threaded, part of a conversation on a topic. Searching your mail is emphasized. And, because it's web-based, you can access you mail and any information in your mail from any computer.

      The 1G of storage is just a means to the end.

  4. Re:Is this a joke submission? by Tumbleweed · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Yeah, I sent a note to the editor about that before the posting went live, but no correction on it as yet. *shrug* Welcome to Slashdot.

  5. dubious location by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting


    is Israel really the kind of place you want to handle your email when they cant even handle each other ?

  6. Re:Is this a joke submission? by bfg9000 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Can any of you guys get your Spymac mail accounts to work? I can't -- I've been assuming it's been announced, but not functional yet.

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  7. whats the big deal? by blanks · · Score: 3, Interesting

    3 years ago I had over 1200 megs of emails, spam, and attachments through my email provider sitting on their server. They never cared, they told me that as long as they have the free space, and that I dont go over 2000 megs, I would be fine. This wasnt a small provider too, it was a company owned by dsl.com.

    Is the big difference here the fact that its offered as a 1000 megs of space? Im sure many providers dont monitor disk usage for email if you go through small isp's, Ive never had a problem with them.

  8. The real issue is accessiblity by scorp1us · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I have about 7 email accounts. 3 are personal. One .edu, one hotmail and 1 yahoo.The problem is, I use yahoo and hotmail because I can;t get to my mail once netscape pulls it down off the server. On top of that I'm behind a firewall. So anything I need to act on during a work day ends up at a web account.

    Sure I could use IMAP, but I get about 200 spam a day, and a 30 meg limit. It's not practical. I need globally accesible email respitory. That's what it is about - access anywhere to your email, in a manner that won't fill up your account. My mozilla mail file is several hundred megs, dating back years. I save it all, JIC. And it helps. Even one old email can make thouse 100s of megs worth it.

    If we had a way to store the data on our PCs, then retrive it anywhere, in a consisant manner (meaning Mozilla would place nice with it - and it would play nice with Mozilla (like a shared sent folder)) then I think we'd be 99% happy and not need 1gig of email hosting. It's cheapest on my drive. It's a fixed cost, and I've already paid ot off. 1gig is cheap. ($0.50-$1) (Though it may not be safest, I never back that bitch up)

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  9. Great, a new web-based hard drive for me... by Professr3 · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Ok, so how long will it take before someone registers 100 accounts or so, writes a program to break their files into chunks, and stores them as email attachments? It would take me about 2 hours to write a file manager that stores large stuff like my star trek collection or backups on their mail servers...

    When in doubt, mod +1 insightful and pray...

    1. Re:Great, a new web-based hard drive for me... by russx2 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Ok, so how long will it take before someone registers 100 accounts or so, writes a program to break their files into chunks, and stores them as email attachments? It would take me about 2 hours to write a file manager that stores large stuff like my star trek collection or backups on their mail servers...

      ... about the same amount of time it'd take Google to implement detection for this sort of behaviour. They're not exactly idiots over at Google and I'm sure they've thought about this. Should be especially easy to detect as well (lots of multiple attachments the same size, lack of normal activity etc.).

      It's a pretty risky endeavour anyway (for backups that is) as you're running the risk everyday of being caught and having your accounts wiped. Not exactly a bullet proof backup solution is it?

  10. Re:I wonder if they filter out... by gl4ss · · Score: 2, Interesting

    well it would be trivial to make a script that could be initiated from anywhere to log on and send a set of files stored in the mailbox to somebody(like a per request emailer - you /msg evilbot !mail me_some_pron_at balblba@bigmailbox_i_just_got_for_free_so_i_dont_e ven_care_about_spam.com and the evilbot initiates a script that sends you some pron from a mailbox thats on some big free mailbox service). the mailbox being web accessible doesn't really matter, what matters is that you can store some stuff there and send it around without using your own bandwith.

    It's kind of problematic to police a system like this, the privacy laws being what they are in most civilised countries - I'd imagine them to build some bandwith protection/limitation to them though.

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  11. Size is not all that matters by gmuslera · · Score: 3, Interesting
    GMail not only will have 1Gb mail capacity, but also (from what i remember from the gmail announcement) spam/virus protection (ok, this company will have it also, but not sure how good/accurate will it be against google, but is something that could mark a clear difference between both), non bloated pages (should check how much weight pages from company, if have graphic ads will be in big disadvantage against google text ads at the very least), multilingual interface, and... well, is google behind, for good or bad (if it was Microsoft, will be a very bad, but still have some trust in google over companies that i simply don't know) and probably future integration with more things from google.

    Not have big problems against the origin of the company, but maybe things could be slower for US residents or countries that have to connect thru US to reach it, or if it have some kind of success, if their (and maybe their country) bandwidth could handle the load that handles google already.

  12. Few thoughts by xPertCodert · · Score: 2, Interesting

    As a guy who had originally submitted the story, I must say, that I have never heard of SpyMac service before... I, also, think that in a next couple of month we'll see an explosion in web-based large data storage offerings from both global and local portals and providers. This will signify a huge change in their business models and offerings and we'll see how people will move not only e-mails but other useful information as well, for example - true world-wide collaboration tools, calendars, phone directories, photo repositories, document storage etc. This is are real threat to Micro$oft as well, since you won't need beefed up Very Very Very Long Horn to do 99% of your daily stuff. As for all those "obscure mid-east country" posts, I have to say that Israel is one of the most advanced country in the world in everything technology related. It has one of the highest broadband internet penetration rates as well so 30 MB attachments make a lot of sense. It is, also, worth noting that any ./ user at any given time is using at least one or two technologies developed in Israel whether it's CPU, instant-messaging service or just a simple router

  13. Re:Is this a joke submission? by McAddress · · Score: 2, Interesting
    1 GB e-mail account, 350 MB combined storage

    seems strange that they have a 1 GB email account, yet only give you 350 MB of storage.

  14. The battle has begun by KalvinB · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Except this isn't really a battle. The Iraqi web-portal isn't giving people an @google.com or @gmail.com account. Much of the reason people sign up for an e-mail service is the domain name. It really doesn't matter how great the offering is, not too many people are going to get an @goat[...].cx e-mail account.

    When Google announced its GMail on April 1st I took it seriously and decided to improve my e-mail service offering. It's now accessible over the web, SSL secured, fully text searchable and free. Before it was POP3 only, not secured and not free. I'm going to look into adding IMAP access as well. 15,000KB attachment limit and no storage limits as long as you don't try to use it as a remote harddrive.

    You also don't need an existing e-mail account to sign up. Which is nice if you need to sign up for a service and really don't care to give them any real information.

    Also, when you delete a message, it's gone.

    Ben

  15. Re:Israel? by ron_ivi · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Slashdot Slashdot has mentioned others. 1GB today isn't really worth any more today than the few MB was when HotMail started.

    The only real news here is that you don't see more companies offering reasonable disk space for their hosting and email in the day of the $79 200GB hard drive.

  16. Spymac is the joke by medication · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Spymac hasn't been making a stink about it being the first to offer this service because they're a sham. I see a lot of posts here about not being able to establish an account going back weeks (I remember your post when the gmail article was here).
    Are you using it? If so what's your address? I don't buy that they're actually doing anything but building a db of advertising data.

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  17. The next P2P? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting


    Is it going to be possible to use these free 1GB email accounts (from Google and others) for storage and distribution of pirated materials?

    Could this become the next P2P?

  18. Heil Hitler, you nazi! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting
    "He didn't call you a Jew, he called you an Israeli, so get off your high horse"

    Antisemitism, hatred of Jews in general is the typical reason for hatred of Israelis. Don't use weasel-words. It is like saying "I don't have blacks. I hate sub-Saharan Africans".

    "Additionally, Israel is as much to blame as anybody else for the situation there"

    They are sometimes ham-handed, but are the victim here as sure as Poland was the victim in WW2.

    "For example, I don't see the PLO bulldozing American civilians."

    Interesting link. It happens to go to a page where someone committed suicide in the name of defending terrorism. At least she didn't have bombs attached to her in order to take out schoolchildren on the way out.

  19. Slashdot is a joke by bonch · · Score: 1, Interesting

    When's the last time you had the feeling that any of the editors listened to any of the needs/concerns of their readers?

    Outright falsehoods often get posted, with no corrections. But it doensn't matter because, despite professing to be a news site, somehow it's "not really" because it's Taco's hobby site. But why call it a tech news site? Isn't that ignoring the fact that a very, very large chunk of geek population TREATS this site like hard news? A lot of people form their worldviews because of the headlines here, which is the cause for a lot of silly opinions, anti-"M$" lies, etc.

  20. Re:Is this a joke submission? by dr.badass · · Score: 2, Interesting

    seems strange that they have a 1 GB email account, yet only give you 350 MB of storage.

    Even stranger is that 250 of that is for pictures in the Spymac gallery, which means you can only store 100MB of Real Actual Files.

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  21. Re:Is this a joke submission? by Trejkaz · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Pfft. You think the Slashdot editors actually do any work? Check this out:

    2004-02-09 23:31:38 IETF Accepts XMPP-IM as Proposed Standard (articles,internet) (pending)

    Yes, that is February and yes, the article is still pending.

    I'm surprised any stories from right now are even getting processed right now considering they appear to be two months behind on the news.

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  22. Actually, it's not the features... by leonbrooks · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ...it's the breathtaking amount of bandwidth and huge number of servers vs what appears to be one overloaded machine at the end of a glowing piece of barbed wire.

    It certainly defecates on hotmail from a substantial altitude.

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