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World's First 1GB Web Mail May Not Be From Google
xPertCodert writes "According to
this article, the world's first 1GB web mail is not going to be Google, but from the largest Israeli web portal. With 30Mb per attachment, it seems to be quite useful as well. Looks like an idea of extra-large e-mail storage is becoming really hot these days."
...is hearing about these things before they're actually available. Note to Google and Walla!: FINISH THE DAMN BETA ALREADY!!!!!!!
This definitely seems like an attempt to steal Google's thunder, but you have to ask if an Israel-local portal company really has the global reach that Google has to be able to offer high-performance ad-supported e-mail to everybody.
I'm not quite sure that they're going to have enough non-local ads in order to serve the world in the way that Google now seems pretty confident in its global geotargeting systems.
Sometimes, i check my mail via pop3 on a dial-up connection. If I start getting 30 MB attatchments, I'll be in trouble.
What happened to e-mail ettiquete??
I'm using an email service hosted in Israel. Might as well paint a big red target on myself.
But..
a) Unknown and unheard of company
b) Physically quite a ways from most wired countries, as opposed to widespread google (Akamai?) servers
c) Israeli only so far, vs. however many localizations (let alone simple translations) google/gmail has/will have.
d) None of the advanced searching/sorting features that Gmail has been promising and actually do sound fairly nice.
Stuff.
These services offering large attachment sizes, how useful can they really be when the majority of users cant recieve the files due to limits set on their mail server?
Sending huge attachments is nice and everything, but it's only going to work if your friend has a gmail/spymac acount (or thier own mail server) too..
Just like every other web portal. They'll give it away for awhile, then when people get hooked, they'll jack up the price.
But as a conoiseur of fine pornography, I find that I can barely manage to keep up with the amount of mail I collect through various mailing lists on my own server. Those attachments can really add up!
I think 1 GB is certainly a generous offer, maybe even overkill for the average user, but for their more hardcore clientele, I think this will just be a tempting, but ultimately unsatisfying offer.
Why a 30MB attachment limit? They could just say 50TB attachment limit and nothing would really be changed since most mail servers have a 5MB attachment limit, at most. Very few of them have a bigger limit.
So... if I wanted to make an attachment and my mail server didn't allow anything over 5MB (and under 30MB), I'd be screwed, right?
Wait! There's a free webbased email service that offers 1GB of space and has a 30MB attachment limit!!
Welcome to economics 101... encourage everyone to switch to your product...
Good quote, too many chars. Seriously, the slashdot 120 char limit sucks!
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Not only do they have to have 1GB of disk space for each user, but think of the backup system! If they're using RAID they could use up to several gigabytes per user!
An web e-mail service is not a very useful file sharing platform. Just like any time somebody posts a New York Times username/password on Slashdot, not soon after somebody logs onto said account and resets the password an e-mail address which steals the account and changes the locks on it.
Basing this comment on the fact that I have never heard of this company, I wouldn't trust my email to a random company in the middle east to hold any valuable emails. I only see myself using GMail in the future for those newsletter subscriptions, forum email validations, and stuff I want to send home to read later.
to those to dumb to work a CD-RW. I mean that. I talk to people all the time whose computers are hosed, but they can't format and reinstall because they couldn't figure out how to write their god damned crap to a CD. With this, let'em send an email (they've already figured out email usually) and download the stuff later. Sure, it's a ridiculously dumb, slow way to back up their data. But hey, if they weren't too dumb to figure out thier CD-RW I wouldn't be posting this comment.
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The story states that it is the world's first 1Gb email service. Spymac already offers this.
How does spymac not qualify because it is already in business? The topic is actually questioning that Google won't be the first, so the Spymac posting is relevant.
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The observations in his post are both accurate and appropriate.
This is accurate and appropriate:
I'm German, so I feel qualified to answer this comment. Given the choice between an Israeli webmailer and Google, I'd choose Google.
Without taking into account features, performance, etc. etc. he picks Google based on the fact that the other one is from Israel. This is accurate? How is the fact that he is from Germany qualify him to post that?
But don't let that stop you from histrionic stereotyping of someone you don't even know.
I won't, especially when responding to someone who is doing the same. The only thing I know about him is what they posted. So, I will base my views on the poster based on the only source of information I have: what they provided me.
but whenever I hear about software from Israel, it's either espionage or war related
Guess he's never heard of ICQ?
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"Spymac is already in business"
So was Google.
who cares?
This is hardly a big deal. It's merely an imaginary milestone that we think is important, but is really completely relevant. Is this any kind of technical feat? No. Is this even useful? Not for the majority of people.
And besides, as a number of people have pointed out already, the title of "first 1 GB e-mail service provider" is taken.
I think this is the fastest invocation of Godwin's Law on /. ever. One post!
/Captain Literal
"As a Usenet discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one."
This has nothing to do with Godwin's Law. He wasn't making a comparison at all, but a joke.
So true, I run a couple of mail servers for ISPs and we have 3-5MB limits imposed on incoming file sizes. This is for a couple of reasons, firstly we shouldn't have to load up the virus scanner even more with huge files, as it stands the scanners will skip over files over a certain size, but I'm sure the virus writers are eventually going to note this and start sending multi-megabyte virus files.
Next is the dialup issue, if any of you have ever done tech support for a dialup pool you will have run across the clueless user who gets some huge attachment that will take at least 30 minutes to download, but clueless user is so used to his mail checks taking 30 seconds or less he never lets it download and at that point his email becomes "stuck" he thinks because everything behind said attachment is never being downloaded, nor is the attachment being deleted as it should.
Finally let's not forget here that email is one of the worst methods for moving files around, especially largish files, I mean the overhead required to encode the file in text format for sending means you practically double the original size of the attachment to send it. Throw in some bounces and you waste megabytes of bandwidth.
Why is it that anyone who challenges Israel's fucked up policies is immediately labeled an anti-semite? Could it be that noone cares about their religion but the way they thrust themselves on the world. I am very sympathetic to the sufferers of the holocaust - it was an EXTREMELY inhumane action that should have never been able to occur. Truman should also never allowed Israel to be created, displacing all of the Palestinians. He was warned that what is happening now would indeed occur. I understand after the displacement of the Jewish people from Russia etc that it would be desirous to have their own nation. The reality is that this Zionist policy has cost thousands of lives and will ultimately lead to the destruction of the Jewish people (remember, you are a minority in that area. You could kill and kill, but the Arab people will outlast you)
The point is Israel - NOONE CARES WHAT RELIGION YOU ARE - JUST QUIT BEING SUCH ASSHOLES!!! ZIONISM IS INHUMANE TO THE REST OF THE WORLD.
Please, no more death to further YOUR people at the expense of others. It is called anti-semetic when someone dislikes Jews, but what is it called when Jews hate everyone else? It is like "White man's guilt" because of slavery. We have "Christian Guilt" due to the holocaust and thus allow Israel to do some very oppresive things. Noone wants to be called anti-semetic for standing up to them.
This is not an anti-semetic statement. I have many jewish friends, have dated a few jewish girls and have no problem with jews in general - just Israeli policies. There are also many Jews that completely disagree with Zionist policies. Please, quit trying to say everyone who doesn't agree with you(Israel) is anti-semetic. Get over yourself, you are not the "chosen ones", you're just like everyone else.
ymmv
"Letsee, you're probably an Israeli, a young male under 30"
Call me a proud Jew then. Actually, I'm not. However, neo-nazis like you have called me "Jewish" just for insisting that Jewish people, too, have a right to live. I've been called black for sticking up for civil rights for blacks as well.
"Israel is the cause of Middle East instability"
Blaming the victim here is like blaming Blacks in the South for "civil rights conflicts" in the 1960s.
"The only way there will be peace in the Middle East is when Israel owns up to its racist philosophy"
It doesn't have one to give up. Really, the only way there will be peace in the Middle East is when the Arab aggressors adopt a "live and let live" policy, and stop invading Israel.
"Palestinians are a defenseless people that are daily oppressed and humiliated."
Only a neo-nazi would believe this lie. The fact is that the Palestinian government is the true aggressor. They and their allies forced the occupation by their attacks on Israel. Israel would have ended the occupation many years ago if the attackers would have surrendered.
The Palestinians would have been wise to follow the example of Japan in WW2. Like the Palestinians vs Israelis, the Japanese engaged in outrageous unprovoked attacks on the U.S. This forced the US to retaliate. This resulted in the occupation of Japan (like the Israeli occupation of the West Bank and Gaza).
The Japanese were smart enough to surrender, and the US eventually left. If they had insisted in keeping their war going, likely the US would still be controlling the country. The Palestinians, with their continued attacks, are only keeping the occupation going.
They could also learn from Egpyt. Under the rabid imperialist dictator Nassir, Egpyt attacked Israel. This forced Israel to take the Sinai as a buffer zone. Sadat took the reasonable course and said "no, we don't want to exterminate you." Egypt got the Sinai back.
Palestinians have lost much by insisting on an aggressive, imperialistic, and genocidal policy. It would be really stupid of Israel to actually turn over land to a government dedicated to exterminating it like this.
> Please, quit trying to say everyone who doesn't agree with you(Israel) is anti-semetic
Kind of like everyone who disagrees with Bush is unpatriotic at best, a terrorist at worst.
Someone help me out here, this seems like False Dilemma, either you agree or you are [anti-semite, unpatriotic, etc], though there are many 3rd choices.
But it also fits Prejudicial Language pretty closely.
What about Undistributed Middle, Some anti-semites disagree with Israeli policy, the Jews of Israel do not disagree, so if you disagree you must be anti-semite.
Is there more than one way to look at this fallacy?
Are we ever going to start drilling these into our children so they don't get led around by the nose so much?
Much as I normally jump on the opportunity to jump on America. This one ain't really the Yanks' fault. It's Britains. We owned Palestine. It all started with the Balfour declaration and went steadily downhill from there.
Most of Israel's early leaders were on Britain's list of top terrorists. Things like the bombing of the King David hotel. Those evil bastards really did start the war of terror - and that was before the Holocaust. That just gave them the perfect excuse for sympathy later.
Don't get me wrong I'm not anti-Jew (or other Semite) and I know many Israelis are as aghast at their nations doings as the rest of us. But Israel is an evil fucking state that deserves nothing less than the flames of hell.
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USA: home of the world's largest terrorist training camp.
30mb attachments? 1GB storage?
NO NO NO NO!!! Email was not designed for this.
furthermore, many email clients are not equipped to deal with attachments to the tune of 30mb. Most notable examples are Outhouse/Outhouse Express. Their attachment limit is somewhere near 1.7mb (for a 36.6Kbps dialup connection) and around 5.4mb for most broadband (most mailservers capped at 128Kbps).
There is a hardcoded timeout interval in there that causes retrieval and sending of a message of that size to fail if it doesn't see EOF go by in a certain amount of time.
do() || do_not();
Search feature sounds pretty much like what M2 client has:
Search your M2 e-mails for almost anything. A search "sticks" and becomes an access point, so that you can easily refer to it in the future.
I realize that M2 is not free and not web-based, but still it makes Gmail's searching much less of a novelty than someone
The point is that GMail is unique due to the combination of features it has to offer, which among other things include kick-ass UI, search and storage space.
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Nah. They're liars. Anyone who would say that either side is "the true aggressor" gave up reality for rhetoric a long time ago.
Whether they're lying because they think it's justified for their cause, or just because they're trolling is a separate matter.
There are no trails. There are no trees out here.