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Google's Gmail Goes Into Beta for Blogger Users

deadpixel writes "Gmail, the 1gb webmail service offered by Google, has gone into beta. Blogger (owned by google) users have first crack at the service. Besides the massive storage, the free service boasts a sophisticated spam filter, no pop-ups/banners, and gives you search results relevant to the emails you receive automatically. Bring on those attachments!"

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  1. Not for all Blogger users... by verbatim_verbose · · Score: 4, Informative

    Don't get too excited and go run and create a blogger account to get in. It seems that it only works for those that are currently "active" blogger users already. (Though nobody really knows what defines active.)

  2. You need to be an active blogger by maddu · · Score: 5, Informative

    You need to be an active blogger to get access to GMail. I have multiple Blogger accounts. But they gave me access only in those accounts where I have been active lately.

  3. Got this yesterday by boredMDer · · Score: 5, Informative

    Yesterday I signed in to BlogSpot just to check for this, and when you log in to the main page, on the right hand side there is a GMail ad.

    Click yes, answer yes to all of the questions that follow, and you have your very own GMail account.

    I have had this for what, 24 hours now I guess, and GMail is the best webmail interface I've ever seen.

    The one thing I don't like so far is that links, elinks, or links2 don't work with it. They do support javascript AFAIK which is what GMail is basically comprised of, but that's my only gripe.

    Can't wait for POP or, preferably, IMAP access. Even more preferably, IMAP over SSL.

  4. Re:1gig? by cybotix · · Score: 5, Informative

    actually the correct term for 1,024 bytes is mebibyte, for 1,048,576 bytes is gibibyte. mega/giga are decimal prefixes, so 1 megabyte = 1000 bytes, and 1000 megabytes = 1 gigabyte. (google calculator is using the old convention)

  5. Re:Details? by kbsingh · · Score: 5, Informative

    login to the blogger account, and if you are amongst the selected - there will be a message to indicate an 'invite to try gmail' on the right side of the screen.

    Not all blogger users have been invited. And people who are joining blogger now after the announcement are not getting accounts.

  6. The ad by boredMDer · · Score: 4, Informative
    For those who haven't seen it, I'll just show the ad here -

    There's an image header - http://blogger.com/g-logo.gif

    As an active Blogger user, we would like to invite you to be one of the first to try out Google's new email service, Gmail.

    Would you like to give it a whirl? YES / NO

    The YES link opens up this page

    The NO links pops an alert box saying 'Okay, this notice will be here for a few more days, should you change your mind.' or similar.

    1. Re:The ad by fulldecent · · Score: 2, Informative
      damn, I tried getting that URL while faking the referer... to no avail.

      i wonder where the signup form is POSTed to... would you happen to know the FORM's action?

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  7. Re:1gig? by mubar · · Score: 4, Informative

    True, it'd be nice if MiB and GiB became standard. For the record, this link explains the actual SI standards and binary multiples.

  8. The Gmail scanner... by Beautyon · · Score: 5, Informative

    doesnt present any ads to you if the content of your email is a PGP encrypted message.

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    1. Re:The Gmail scanner... by Beautyon · · Score: 3, Informative
      But it does present ads:
      Sponsored Links
      Open PGP Command Line
      FileCrypt eBusiness secures data with strong PGP encryption.
      www.veridis.com/filecrypt

      Free PGP Disk Encryption
      Completely supported Free Simple, Secure, Secure E-mail too.
      encryption.cypherix.com/pgp_disc
      About these links


      If a PGP encrypted message is sent with a PGP encrypted attchment bearing the file extension .pgp

      In both cases, the subject was a line cut from the ciphertext in the body of the message.

      Does this mean that Gmail scans attachments as well as the body of an email?
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  9. Re:Details? by MikeCapone · · Score: 1, Informative

    login to the blogger account, and if you are amongst the selected - there will be a message to indicate an 'invite to try gmail' on the right side of the screen.

    That's indeed how it was for me; strange thing is, that invitation is still there now that I've joined gmail.

    You can't create more than one account, though (well, maybe I can cheat somehow but I haven't put too much effort into it).

  10. Re:Details? by Alien54 · · Score: 4, Informative
    Not all blogger users have been invited. And people who are joining blogger now after the announcement are not getting accounts.

    As their announcement says:

    As an active Blogger user, we would like to invite you to be one of the first to try out Google's new email service, Gmail.

    Would you like to give it a whirl? YES / NO

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  11. Re:1gig? by AlecC · · Score: 5, Informative

    This is a piece of distortion introduced by disk drive manufacturers. I think Connor (now expired) first introduced it, at the time that disk drives in the low number of gigabytes were appearing. They started sizing drives with a gigabyte counted as 1000 honest Megabytes. I think Connor needed to do it because with honest gigabytes, their drive (a rotten, unreliable one it turned out to be) would not make the 4 Gigabyte mark, though everybody elses's did. To their shame, the other drive nanufacturers followed. So for all disk drives, a Gigabyte now meant 10^3*2^20, not 2^30. A sad world, my masters.

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  12. heh.. by rebelcool · · Score: 5, Informative

    i got it a few days ago. It is a cool service, but is it the best thing since sliced bread? nope.

    I don't see why people think gmail's spam filter is all that great - so far (and this may be due to beta issues, a lack of training etc) its allowed about 50% of spam to my account through. I've got a couple spam infested accounts forwarding to gmail to test this out.

    as for the ads, on most messages they're not even there and when they are they're very small and placed to the side of the page like google's search engine text ads. I don't even notice them. So its not like they're inserted into your mail really. And at least google doesn't attach "get your hotmail address now!" to the bottom of every outgoing email.

    So while it is cool (the best feature is the seamless conversations), it's not going to be for everyone, or cause a mass exodus from existing mail services.

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  13. Re:1gig? by Z-MaxX · · Score: 5, Informative
    no jackass --- you can't just make up your own units
    Ah, but he's not. Internation System of Units (SI) Binary Prefixes

    Be bold and be proud of your geekdom! Say "mebibytes" and "gibibytes" in public!!

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  14. Re:Details? by generic-man · · Score: 3, Informative

    You need to have an "active" Blogger account. When I logged in last week, I saw this invitation message. I hadn't used my account in a week or so, but Blogger considered me "active" enough to deserve an invite.

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  15. First impressions by mrneutron · · Score: 4, Informative

    My impression thus far: very sweet.

    I tried registering some short usernames, the username has to be 6 characters or longer.

    So I have a leet 6-character name@gmail.com.

    Transit time for sent and recived mail is near-instantaneous.

    The interface is trademark google utilitarian. Two thumbs up.

    I sent some test spam from my spam folder, they got into my inbox (and not to my 'spam'
    folder on gmail). So they have some tweaking to do there.

  16. For those who are curious... by citking · · Score: 5, Informative
    ...as to what the actual mail interface looks like I took a few screenshots for ya:

    Inbox

    Example message w/ text ads present

    The only thing different is the "@gmail.com" e-mail addy at the top...I cut mine out just to avoid any potential issues...sorry.

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  17. SpyMac: An Alternative free 1 GB e-mail account by Alien54 · · Score: 3, Informative
    Spymac's free membership includes:

    1 GB e-mail account, 350 MB combined storage, personal blog, forum, gallery, auctions and more

    Of course, They are primarily mac-oriented, but I can deal with it.

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    1. Re:SpyMac: An Alternative free 1 GB e-mail account by NewNole2001 · · Score: 2, Informative

      I signed up there two weeks ago, and I still haven't gotten my account working right. These people bit off way more than they can chew.

    2. Re:SpyMac: An Alternative free 1 GB e-mail account by tavilach · · Score: 1, Informative

      It is certainly a nice package that they offer... Unfortunetely, as others have been saying, the service is as slow as Google is fast...and that's pretty darn slow.

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  18. Re:I signed up and read the TOS by 74nova · · Score: 2, Informative

    attachement size is limited to like 30MB. unless you want to split it up into those sizes, it woudnt work. i suppose you could write something that could automatically do that and then have something to recreate it on the other end. it would be easier to do mp3s with this. that way, a 2 hour show could be split up into only like 4 pieces.

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  19. nope by rebelcool · · Score: 3, Informative

    they don't do that. At least not now, i suppose its possible once gmail goes open to the public it could though.

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  20. Re:say it ain't so! by netsharc · · Score: 3, Informative

    Well, Gmail works with Mozilla, but it is very Javascript-heavy. Just like Hotmail and Yahoo, actually. If you open Hotmail with IE, you get an (ActiveX, DHTML?) formatting toolbar so that your email can have "cute" stuff like colours and emoticons, this toolbar isn't there with non-IE browsers --typical Microsoft Monopoly.

    Actually, the latest versions of browsers can do DHTML quite nicely with similar results. I've been making a small tool using DHTML and the only problem so far has been with IE which always complain "There is a problem loading the page" despite the fact that it loads it successfully.

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  21. Re:Possibilities by STrinity · · Score: 3, Informative

    Based upon some initial testing, outgoing attachments are capped somewhere between 5.5 and 7.5 megs. Which is making capacity testing a PIA.

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  22. Username by otter42 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Well, to all those people that don't see why it's so great to rush out and get an account immedietely, I have this to say:

    username choice!

    For the first time in my life, I don't need to get some goony name like "g733p42" because ALL the possible permutations of normal words are already taken.

    Yaay blogger!

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  23. Re:Safari not supported? by beelers · · Score: 2, Informative

    Safari may not be supported (yet), but it works. I'm using it right now.

  24. Re:Details? by otisg · · Score: 2, Informative

    Yeah, new Blogger users are not getting GMail invitations, but check Blogger traffic numbers, which show the Google / GMail / Invitation effect, a la Orkut.

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  25. Re:Gmail (legit) vs. Spymac (illegit) by adzoox · · Score: 4, Informative

    SpyMac is an embarassment of flim flam artistry. It is one of the greatest rabbit tricks ever pulled out of a Mac hat.

    People think there's concerns with Gmail and privacy - yet YOU would trust your email to a site that HAS NEVER backed away from the iWalk PDA being a fake, that consistently breaks MUG rules (they claim to be a MUG, yet moderators post rumors - a no no).

    THERE IS NO WAY I WOULD TRUST SPYMAC with any password, email address, home address or any other information

    SpyMac is just the shiniest car in the parking lot. Be careful though, there may be flood damage under the hood.

    The other thing that bothers me about SpyMac is that their moderators troll the web and forums looking for ANYONE that says something bad about the site.

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  26. Re:will it FUNCTION.... by scragz · · Score: 2, Informative

    You don't specifically mention Mozilla, but assuming you are using it, you can install Tab Browser Extensions to enable/disable features for individual tabs.

  27. Just signed up by Jett · · Score: 3, Informative

    I've had a blogger account for almost 2 years now, so I got selected for the Gmail beta. I just signed up about 10 minutes ago. First problem I had was that your username has to be at least 6 characters long. As you can see from my username here, it is less than 6 characters. Not that big of a deal I guess. Besides that it looks awesome, I haven't done much with it beside set up the account and send a few test emails but the display looks really clean, reminds me a little of YahooMail. The textads on the side aren't intrusive at all, especially compared to every other free webmail I've ever seen. Load times are impressive, could just be that they have a huge amount of bandwidth and server-power allocated at the moment, but it's faster than any other webmail. I'll have to see how it responds once I have a bunch of messages in it to load. So my first impression is that it is better than any other webmail - if their UI innovation (i.e. emails organized as conversations, searching, etc.) actually works (or isn't annoying) I would definitely switch to using it as my primary webmail account. 1gig of storage space is definitely awesome, I lost a bunch of relatively important email from my stupid hotmail account (I signed up long before MS bought them and ruined everything) when I was out of country and couldn't access it - I came back to an account overflowing with spam and all my old emails auto-deleted. Yeah, I should of kept them somewhere else - but the account wasn't near full and until then I was only getting a a few spam emails per day. Regardless, it's not likely to happen when you have a gig of space to play with.

  28. Screenshots by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative
  29. A suitably respected authority, as requested by Arker · · Score: 2, Informative

    Your definition is good, and if it's correct then I humbly apologise for being so trollish sir. Until some suitably respected authority confirms your definition, I shall have to call shenanigoats.

    If you want an authority for this you don't need to look very hard, just hit the Jargon File.

    quantifiers

    In techspeak and jargon, the standard metric prefixes used in the SI (Système International) conventions for scientific measurement have dual uses. With units of time or things that come in powers of 10, such as money, they retain their usual meanings of multiplication by powers of 1000 = 10^3. But when used with bytes or other things that naturally come in powers of 2, they usually denote multiplication by powers of 1024 = 2^10.

    Here are the SI magnifying prefixes, along with the corresponding binary interpretations in common use:

    prefix decimal binary
    kilo- 1000^1 1024^1 = 2^10 = 1,024
    mega- 1000^2 1024^2 = 2^20 = 1,048,576
    giga- 1000^3 1024^3 = 2^30 = 1,073,741,824
    tera- 1000^4 1024^4 = 2^40 = 1,099,511,627,776
    peta- 1000^5 1024^5 = 2^50 = 1,125,899,906,842,624
    exa- 1000^6 1024^6 = 2^60 = 1,152,921,504,606,846,976
    zetta- 1000^7 1024^7 = 2^70 = 1,180,591,620,717,411,303,424
    yotta- 1000^8 1024^8 = 2^80 = 1,208,925,819,614,629,174,706,176

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  30. Re:Gmail vs. Spymac by PhrostyMcByte · · Score: 2, Informative

    Not to mention that Spymac is slow as hell compared to Google.

  31. Gmail impressions and 10 screenshots by gorman · · Score: 4, Informative

    I've been using Gmail for a few hours now, and I'm very impressed with it. This is really the best use of Javascript I've seen. It isn't there to add a bunch of cool effects, but to actually increase functionality and usability. So far it has been very, very fast and fairly bug-free considering its beta status.

    The only complain I have so far is that by default, it didn't catch any of the spam I received. However, I've reported all of it as spam, so it will be interesting to see if it improves based upon that. So far though, its spam filter doesn't seem quite in line with filters such as the one in Apple's Mail client. Speaking of Apple, it does appear to work pretty well in Safari. There are a few quirks compared to loading it in Firefox, but nothing show-stopping.

    If they can work out the spam filter and polish everything up, which I'm sure they can, they've got a true winner here. I'm copying over all of my regular POP3 e-mail to my new Gmail account so that I can access it anywhere and perform more in-depth searching on it. After all, if there's one thing Gmail tops all web and application-based Mail clients on, it is definitely searching.

    I urge you to check out these screenshots for a better look at Gmail than the two or three screenshots others have posted by clicking here.

    Gmail is as good as the hype suggested :)

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