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Scribus 1.1.6 Reviewed

TrialOfFire points out MadPenguin's review (with helpful screenshots) of Scribus 1.1.6, which attempts to answer "what is Scribus really like? Can anyone just pick it up and use it? Is it really as powerful as they say it is? And does it live up to the hype surrounding it?"

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  1. Killer app it isn't by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 5, Funny

    who recently proclaimed Scribus to be one of "Free Software's Killer Applications"

    Oh yes yes sure... but when will they learn? the *only* free software killer application is here. And I should know, it very nearly killed me.

    Oh and by the way, I'm sure it can do desktop publishing too some way or another...

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  2. Ah but: by MrZaius · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Does it answer this one?
    What the hell is it?

    Might have been nice to mention that in the /. post, too.

    1. Re:Ah but: by Simon+(S2) · · Score: 5, Informative

      What the hell is it?
      from the Scibus site:

      1.1 What is Scribus?

      Scribus is a desktop page layout program in the tradition of Corel Ventura®, Quark Xpress®, PageMaker® and InDesign®

      Since its launch in the spring of 2001, Scribus 1.+ offers Linux and Unix users a versatile and user friendly page layout application. Scribus 1.0 and its recent development versions are being used in a number of ways; from brochure design to newsletters and posters to technical documentation. Scribus has the type of the features one would expect in a sophisticated page layout application. You can do all the typical tasks like precision placing and rotating of text and/or images on a page, specify manual kerning of type and much more. With the release of Scribus 1.0, Linux and Unix users now have one more high quality application for the desktop, making it the premier choice for DTP on Linux or BSD with other platforms to come.

      Underneath the modern and user friendly interface, Scribus supports professional publishing features, such as CMYK color and a simple color management system to soft proof images destined for high quality color printing, Other features include flexible PDF creation options, PDF Import, Encapsulated Postscript import/export and creation of 4 color separations. Scribus also supports via freetype Unicode text including right to left scripts such as Arabic and Hebrew.

      Graphic formats which can be placed in Scribus include Encapsulated Post Script (eps), TIFF(Joint Photographic Experts Group (JPEG), Portable Network Graphics (png) and XPixMap(xpm) Scribus now also handles any bit map file type supported by QT3.

      Printing, PDF and SVG creation are via custom driver libraries and plug-ins, giving Scribus inventive features: the abilities to include presentation effects with PDF output, fully scriptable interactive PDF forms, SVG vector file output. The internal printer drivers fully support Level 2 and Level 3/PDF 1.4 postscript features including transparency and font embedding. The PDF driver from Scribus can embed fonts for postscript printing and you can use and output high resolution EPS files.

      Other useful features include manual kerning of type, rotating object frames, bezier curves polygons, precision placement of objects, layering with RGB and CMYK custom colors. The Scribus document file format is XML, an open source standard file format, a super set of SGML. Unlike proprietary binary file formats, even damaged documents, can be recovered with a simple text editor - sometimes a challenging problem with other page layout programs.

      When run from KDE , Drag and Drop is enabled. Thus, for example you can drag and drop from the desktop to the canvas easily. There is easy to use drag and drop scrapbook, which can contain frequently used items including text blocks, pictures and custom shaped frames. Scribus will also run most any window manager including Gnome and Blackbox without difficulties.

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    2. Re:Ah but: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      It's a new tradition.

      Foo 1.0 has been released. It's been proclaimed the new killer app. killer Funion states that stability has increased exponentially and that it passes the grandma test. Ken at Bargain Hardware states that it installed very easily, and it was a perfect replace for his old program, "bar". He can now accomplish twice the production and efficiency has increased 200%. Mamba Joe, the developer of Foo, expects 2.0 to be released tomorrow. Here's to Mountain Dew!

  3. A better question by woodhouse · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "what is Scribus really like?"

    What about the more common question: "what is Scribus"? The uninformative summary doesn't help; neither does the slashdotted site.

    1. Re:A better question by tijnbraun · · Score: 3, Informative

      "what is Scribus really like?"
      Here a link to their homepage

    2. Re:A better question by wookyhoo · · Score: 4, Informative

      Here's some "useful" info: Scribus - Layout program similar to Adobe PageMaker

      Basically:

      "Scribus is a Layout program for GNU/Linux®, similar to Adobe® PageMaker(TM), QuarkXPress(TM) or Adobe® InDesign(TM), except that it is published under the GNU GPL. Currently, it is still in its early stages of development, but rapidly maturing and very useable. Already, it has the ability to layout newsletters, create corporate stationery, small posters and other documents which need flexible layout and/or the ability to output to professional quality imagesetting equipment. You can do all the typical tasks like placing and rotating text and/or images on a page, specify manual kerning of type and much more. While the goals of the program are for ease of use and simple easy to understand tools, Scribus offers support for professional publishing features, such as CMYK color, easy PDF creation, Encapsulated Postscript import/export and creation of color separations. Graphic formats which can be placed include Ecapsulated Post Script (eps), Joint Photographic Experts Group (jpeg), Portable Network Graphics (png) and XPixMap(xpm)."

    3. Re:A better question by vossman77 · · Score: 3, Informative
      What about the more common question: "what is Scribus"? The uninformative summary doesn't help; neither does the slashdotted site.

      From the website:
      Scribus is a Page Layout program for GNU/Linux®, similar to Adobe® PageMaker, QuarkXPress or Adobe® InDesign, except that it is published under the GNU GPL.

      With the release of Scribus 1.1.6, Linux and Unix desktop users have a user friendly, but powerful Desktop Publishing application capable of a broad set of DTP needs. Started with humble beginnings as a Python program to make menus, Scribus has been transformed into a young but rapidly maturing DTP application with numerous professional features, as well as some unique capabilities. Already, in use from everything to club newsletters to small newspaper production to animated interactive PDF presentations a la Power point. or Open Office Impress. Other uses are creating corporate stationery and brochures, small posters and other documents which need flexible layout and/or the ability to output to professional quality image-setting equipment.

      While the goals of the program are for ease of use and simple easy to understand tools, Scribus offers support for professional publishing features, such as CMYK color, sophisticated "press-ready" PDF creation, EPS and PDF import/export and creation of color separations and optionally very complete ICC color management - thanks to littlecms, the first for an open source application.

      Scribus supports many major graphic formats including most all of the standard ones used in DTP in addition to SVG import and export.

      Printing is done via its own internal level 3 PS driver, including support for font embedding and sub-setting with True Type, Type 1 and Open Type fonts. The internal driver fully supports Level 2 Postscript constructs and very large set of Level 3.

      PDF support includes transparency, encryption and a large set of the PDF 1.4 spec including interactive PDF's form fields, annotations and bookmarks. No other application is capable of producing such a wide range of PDF features on Linux, Unix like operating systems.

      The file format is based on XML and fully documented. Unlike proprietary binary file formats, even damaged documents, may be partially recovered with a simple text editor - sometimes a challenging problem with other page layout programs.

      When run with KDE 3.x, Drag and Drop is enabled, as well as inheriting KDE style plug-ins. Thus, for example you can drag and drop from the desktop to the pasteboard easily. There is a drag and drop scrapbook, which can contain frequently used items including text blocks, pictures and custom shapes.

      Currently, the most recent version 1.1.6 of Scribus supports Open Type, True Type and Type1 Postscript fonts.
    4. Re:A better question by Thwomp · · Score: 3, Informative

      Google Cache

    5. Re:A better question by Doctor+O · · Score: 3, Informative

      OK, I can't read the review as it is slashdotted, but actually I have no idea what a professional DTP application needs JPEG or PNG support for as you need CMYK output if you want to use this professionally. (Please spare me the "but Photoshop saves CMYK JPEGs". Thank you.)

      Also, just "having" PostScript output doesn't mean it's useful. XPress has EPS export for ages, yet we are still waiting for USABLE PostScript files written by XPress, leave alone *syntactically correct* PostScript. XPress can't even properly import its own EPS files, 'nuff said.

      I'd really like to see a nice DTP application for Linux, maybe this is it. Mind you, I'm a professional designer, so I've used most tools on the market at one time or another, and I've yet to come across something which is usable for all daily tasks. Every app so far is only good for some cases.

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    6. Re:A better question by zhiwenchong · · Score: 4, Informative

      More screenshots here.

    7. Re:A better question by sweet+cunny+muffin · · Score: 3, Funny

      Perhaps they meant ((GNU)/(Linux®)), as Linux is a registered trade mark (a ®) of Linus.

    8. Re:A better question by NonSequor · · Score: 4, Funny

      But I want to know what Scribus is really like when no one's around and he can stop pretending and just be himself. I want to get to know the real Scribus, not the mere shell you read about in the tabloids.

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    9. Re:A better question by scribusdocs · · Score: 5, Informative

      That is the older one. The new one is Scribus Home Page

  4. another short review by spangineer · · Score: 5, Informative

    Here's a quick review talking about the enhancements since the last version.

  5. Re:usability by Hewligan · · Score: 5, Funny

    Spoken like a man who's never had to use Quark Xpress.

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  6. Slashdotted? by osewa77 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Even the google cache copy seems inaccessible.. Here is the Freshmeat Project Page for Scribus 1.1.6, and I also have a link to the home page
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  7. (old joke) It would be a nice OS... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...if it included a good text editor.

  8. JPEG by jabbadabbadoo · · Score: 5, Funny

    They added JPEG support in this version. Time to close down the project.

  9. Re:usability by baryon351 · · Score: 5, Informative

    According to this review the usability of this product is only 2 stars out of 5. Seems like poor usability and linux-based products will go hand in hand for a long time.

    Oh it sounds like it's a perfect drop-in replacement for QuarkXPress :)

    For all its excellence with output (and when I used it, it worked well) Quark is certainly not an example of brilliant, or even good UI design. Takes a lot of time and a lot of knowledge of the little hidden and non-obvious keycommands to use well.

  10. Requires GCC 3.2 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Will not compile on GCC 2.95.. That really limits its use a lot doesnt it?

    1. Re:Requires GCC 3.2 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      All distros with any sense use 3.0+. 2.9x is too old and too buggy to bother with. With 3.0 we get a better compiler producing a faster executable, and is able to handle C++ templates much better. We made the decision a few 4+ minor versions ago, way back in October 03.

  11. Scribus is great ! by Zork+the+Almighty · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I used Scribus about a year ago to produce a professional looking poster for a conference. At the time, it was a very powerful program with a few small quirks. I would recommend it to anybody somewhat familiar with DTP.

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  12. Killer application on Linux? by heironymouscoward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Scribus appears to be a decent desktop publishing tool. I've installed it but personally I prefer to use the OOo drawing tool for mockups, and our graphist uses QuarkXpress for the final designs.

    The point is that printshops accept files only with specific formats, namely with CMYK color separation, the appropriate resolution, and in "well-known" file formats: Quark, Illustrator, et al.

    A Linux desktop publishing program that can product color-separated files in the correct format can be a dog to learn and use, that'd be fine! As long as it can produce print-ready files, a painful learning curve is not an issue.

    The UI is not the key. Business usefulness is the key.

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    1. Re:Killer application on Linux? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      Scribus is regularly (almost daily) tested with high end printers RIPS and printing hardware. We have DTP professionals using and testing for us in the US, Canada, France and Germany.

      EPS and PDFs from Scribus are usable in any DTP program (including Adobe apps such as Illustrator) can load and use such files. Scribus can also directly print to the hardware.

      Reviewer says little cms is for producing PDFs. No, its for colour management! Scribus has its own PDF exporter.

  13. What is Scribus? by JHVB · · Score: 3, Informative
    From their website:

    "Scribus is a Page Layout program for GNU/Linux®, similar to Adobe® PageMaker, QuarkXPress or Adobe® InDesign, except that it is published under the GNU GPL.

    With the release of Scribus 1.1.6, Linux and Unix desktop users have a user friendly, but powerful Desktop Publishing application capable of a broad set of DTP needs. Started with humble beginnings as a Python program to make menus, Scribus has been transformed into a young but rapidly maturing DTP application with numerous professional features, as well as some unique capabilities. Already, in use from everything to club newsletters to small newspaper production to animated interactive PDF presentations a la Power point. or Open Office Impress. Other uses are creating corporate stationery and brochures, small posters and other documents which need flexible layout and/or the ability to output to professional quality image-setting equipment."

  14. Re:New Record by eyeye · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Thanks to TrialOfFire's retarded news post they have been slashdotted by lots of people just trying to find out what the fuck the program is/does.

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  15. Scribus is good... by WWWWolf · · Score: 5, Interesting

    (Note: I'm not complaining, just hoping aloud =)

    Scribus is an excellent application. I could easily put it in the same category as Mozilla Firefox, XEmacs, GIMP, Blender, Audacity and Eclipse as an example of well-engineered open source application that is good enough to get any real work done.

    Scribus is, however, a little bit of a quirk-express. The user interface is not yet completely free of small things that tend to be annoying. For one thing, it's slow (though nowhere near as slow as some pre-1.0 versions - and Freetype integration has greatly helped with this too, with faster and better-looking font rendering) and some details lag behind (the property dialog could use some really heavy improvements).

    I think the UI situation is just similar to GIMP 1.0 - it took until 1.2 until the UI was really good and until 2.0 until it was superb. Yet, like GIMP 1.0, it's completely usable for what it's designed for!

    So, in conclusion, I'll be hoping that we'll get into the "GIMP 1.2" level soon what comes to the UI. It is really good as it is right now, though.

  16. PostNuke powered Website by Cloud+K · · Score: 3, Funny

    How appropriate! Seeing the website is broken via slasdotting - a post nuke website, so to speak.

  17. Templates by adrianbaugh · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Scribus looks like an okay program, and I'm sure that for printing office types who have the time to learn to use it properly it does a fine job. However there's an opportunity to make it a real "killer app" for far more people. Consider Microsoft Publisher. It's an okay sort of program - what makes it very useful for a lot of people is the vast template library which makes it very easy to get 90% of the way towards (say) a double-sided 3-panel sales brochure in about 5 minutes, requiring only that the default background is changed and perhaps some minor details altered. The templates are even themeable.

    There seems to be nothing like this at all for scribus (in fact, by and large the range of templates available for OS office applications is pretty woeful). We really ought to get on top of this as a priority; otherwise MS Office will still have a massive lead in terms of useability to Joe Officeworker.

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  18. Who uses Quark? by ducklord · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The main power of Quark Express is in its shortcuts. Experienced DTP users can set up a page blazingly fast, and in less than 5mins the have a full doc setup through mostly keystrokes. That`s the main reason why a lot of them whine when the shortcuts change between versions, and that`s why more than a lot stick with older versions of a program if the newer ones have "changed stuff" (Quark5 being a prime example, as far as they tell me). For a different program to have success in this field, there mustn`t exist only a nice interface but a similarity with the most well known "players". How different is it from Quark and Pagemaker? Can it be configured to work in a similar way? Its widgets are not its main power, proper seperations, SMYC and RGB support, similarity to other apps are what can make it succesfull.

  19. New Updated Screen Shots of 1.2 cvs by scribusdocs · · Score: 3, Informative
  20. Re:Text of Review by scribusdocs · · Score: 5, Informative

    Replying to myself to correct a few omissions and corrections:

    • Littlecms is required ICC color management. Scribus is the GPL application to have such sophiticated ICC Color Managment
    • The Print Previewer - is in the Extra menu as it is a separate plug-in. There is an optional font-preview which works the same way. This plug also can generate separations previews of each ink plate in CMYK.
    • The documentation link in the original article points at linuxdoc.org. Scribus has extensive documentation, including many sample PDF's on advanced subjects like its pre-press capabilities.The docs also include 70 + links for Linux and DTP.The docs are out of date, but mostly because of the rapid pace of development - a nice problem to have.
    • Missed in the review is the Scribus python plug-in support, which is very powerful. This allows you to create python scripts to automate document production. There are several sample python scripts included in the scribus package.
    • One of the regular users has contributed a number of Avery templates already.See the downloads section of www.scribus.net

    My personal view of the reviews of Scribus:

    Unfortunately, we have yet to see a review of Scribus by someone who has used professional DTP applications. As a IT/DTP consultant, even though I am a member of the team, my testing with professional DTP pre-flight tools has consistently shown Scribus creates PDF and PS output which most certainly equals and sometimes exceeds those of commercial apps.

    Lastly, DTP is itself a complex subject and takes time to master. The "Wizard" approach of other apps really dumbs down the true capabilities of an app like Scribus, just like it would Blender, GIMP or any other similar type of application.