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Miguel de Icaza on Longhorn
An anonymous reader writes "In Miguel de Icaza's latest blog entry the Mono project leader discusses the threat Longhorn's new technologies and frameworks pose to Linux and open source. He also directs users to this recent USENET post about the goals of Mozilla, which is a very interesting read.
Originally seen on OSnews." Mmmm...Miguel smart. Seriously, good commentary - and ripe for discussion/flame wars.
I use Mozilla, Konquror and Opera depending on what OS and which computer I use (work, home, friends, etc).
Every computer I'm forced to use IE, I end up wishing I could remove it because of all the little annoyances.
No tabbed browsing - something all modern web-browsers seems to have.
Crappy network handling. Try spelling an URL wrong. IE hangs for 10-20 seconds with no ability to abort
Ctrl+N to open a new window. IE starts to re-load the contents of the previous window. I start typing a new URL. IE finishes loading the page and inserts the old URL in the middle of my typing. I scream out and install Mozilla on that computer too, regardless of protests from the computers owner
How many companies are publishing applications to run in webstart, or pure VM apps?? There is barely anything that I can take and run it on my iMac, my linux pc's and my windows's pc's seamlessly.
I've more or less stopped trying to show people that IE is stunting their growth. It makes them onery and defensive. Instead, I like ignoring IE's faults, and show them nifty things in Opera they never knew they needed. Things like mouse gestures, linked windows, tabbed browsing (as you mentioned), customizable interface, crash-recovery, etc etc. Easiest thing to do is link to this Opera zealot's site:
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The pacing is well-done. He encourages people to try the browser for a month, because that's how long it takes to really get yourself out of an IE rut.
You know, I just accidentally closed the window before I copied over the link address, but instead of having to search for it again, I just hit ctrl-alt-Z to re-open the last window I closed. Little things like this is why I can no longer stand IE. No offense intended to those poor souls who still like using the back button, or can't turn off images with a single button, or natively block popups without a third-party app.
Auto-reply to ACs: "Truly, you have a dizzying intellect."
Or, with Mozilla or Opera, you can use the current window as your base for tangents, and then open the links you wish to explore in new tabs (shift-click, or right click --> Open In New (Active or not) Tab) or even new windows. When you're done with those tangents, you can close the tabs and you still have the original page there.
Opening the same window with CTRL-N is something I've never understood about IE. It makes no sense, particularly when you're on a secure site and you ended up logged in twice or force some other odd cookie-based error.
-Augie
With Firefox, at least, shift-click does open a new window, and ctrl-click (or the middle mouse button/wheel) opens the link in a new tab, which is preferrable to me.). It has done so for months and months, I don't even know how long.
Now, no one (I hope) is saying you have to use a different browser, but the reason given doesn't hold anymore.
philcrissman.com.
Stock Java is not an option because it lacks a few
;-)
things: the easy-to-build functionality of a web
page (XAML) and the advanced graphics and rendering
of Avalon.
Sure, they can both be built on top of Java, but
they need to be built, hence the `Come up with our
own competitive stack'.
I happen to think that our stack should use the
best technology available today, and since it
must be a new stack, that stack should be built
on top of the ECMA CLI. For plenty of technical
reasons.
Now, if you disagree with my thought direction,
nobody is stopping you from building your stack
on top of Java, I know that am not spending a
minute there
Miguel.
Check out Avantbrowser. It's a replacement "front end" for IE, supports tabbed browsing, popup blocker, ad blocker, script blocker, flash blocker, etc, etc, etc. Ctrl-N (or middle-mouse click, or mouse gesture, or however you want to open a new tab) works as you'd like it to (and me, too). As for wrong URLs hanging for 10-20 seconds, that's an oddity. I usually just hit Esc to stop loading the page.
Which is more painful? Going to work or gouging your eye out with a spoon? Find out!
http://www.workorspoon.com
I do not think you read my whole message,
because I stated that there were two options:
to implement Avalon, or to build our own.
We are in the process of specing out what
ours should be (the platform we call
"salvador").
Miguel.