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Overclocking your Gameboy Advance

An anonymous reader writes "The guys over at Ahead Games are working on an overclock mod for the GBA. They've been able to run it at up to 2x the regular operating speed without any major heat or battery life problems. Now, you're probably asking yourself "Why the hell would anyone want to overclock their Gameboy?" Answer: Super Nintendo emulation. There's already a working beta of a SNES emulator out for the GBA called SNES Advance. The big problem is there's just not enough horsepower under the GBA's hood to emulate the SNES sound chip. This mod will hopefully remedy that."

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  1. Hmmmm.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Have they gotten past the timing issues involved with overclocking the clock speed?

  2. I would think an even bigger problem would be... by tuffy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...a lack of buttons. A SNES pad has two more of them than a GBA.

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  3. Is there really a big market for this? by spidergoat2 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's a bit like the re-release of the old Atari games for new PC's. How many times can we really sit and play Frogger now? Isn't the progression to new tecnology so we can play better games, not reheat the old ones?

    1. Re:Is there really a big market for this? by ThePretender · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I'd say the answer to your last question is: BOTH. I am sure I am not the only one who does sit and play Frogger quite a few times more than I'd like to admit. But I also enjoy some of the cutting-edge fare that is available today. I think there is an audience for this but also think there are many who enjoy things just because it can be done.

    2. Re:Is there really a big market for this? by solojony · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You are mistakenly taking technology for better games. I know a lot of games who need a PC in the order of 1000$ to play nicely and still they aren't remotely as fun as pac-man. Better graphics Better games.

    3. Re:Is there really a big market for this? by cexshun · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The answer to your question is at your local used video game store. Original NES consoles are going for $50+ at many places. And people are paying it. The gaming experience is about more then graphics and sound. For me, I have yet to find a game more fun then Tyson's Punch-Out or Top Gun.

    4. Re:Is there really a big market for this? by Maarek_1 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The problem with your thinking here is that you seem to regard the SNES as being made in the infancy of video games, and that is hardly true. The SNES (and the Sega Genesis) was the system that turned the corner for the gaming industry. It was the SNES that helped convince Sony that real money and real entertainment could be had through video games again (since the crash in the early 80's many still regarded the industry as very risky). I love my modern technology and games, but many SNES games continue to shine a decade after their release. It's like books, no one says "Why read classic books, how many times can we sit and read 'A Tale of Two Cities' now? Isn't the progression to new literary techniques so that we can read new stories, not reheat old ones" Not trying to mock, just making a point.

    5. Re:Is there really a big market for this? by barryfandango · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I saw a copy of "Casablanca" on DVD the other day. Why are we bothering to port these old, technologically inferior works to new technology when we could be watching the newest and therefore best movies instead?
      </sarcasm>

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    6. Re:Is there really a big market for this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful
      Hey, have you played SNES games? The games for the SNES are some of the best ever made (and still my favorites).

      Bahamut Lagoon, Legend of Zelda, Chrono Trigger, Super Mario World, a few hundred others. Getting these games on a portable gaming platform rocks!

      The games for the SNES are, IMO, a much better product than games these days. Games these days are all eyecandy and nothing else.

    7. Re:Is there really a big market for this? by Maarek_1 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I would argue that although video game's primary purpose is to entertain, that many could be considered to be art in their own right. Most books are written to entertain, it is the rare classics that transend entertainment. Not to mention, the most popular video game of all time is Tetris, and that hardly could be called "eye catching"... it's how fun the game is that makes it worth playing.

  4. Re:You know you're a nerd when.. by micromoog · · Score: 2, Insightful

    That, or the massive game library.

  5. Re:And my next question... by lotsofno · · Score: 2, Insightful
    ...would have to be "Why the hell would anyone want to eumlate the SNES on a GBA?"
    Chrono Trigger, Secret of Mana, Earthbound... The GBA is already great for portable RPGs, but add in some SNES titles, and you've just doubled the awesomeness content for the system.
  6. Re:great... by lambent · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Sweet merciful crap, I know nobody reads the damn article, but why the hell not even the front page synopsis?

    "They've been able to run it at up to 2x the regular operating speed without any major heat or battery life problems."

    As for a followup in the forum ... user 'ahead games' says on Thu Mar 25, 2004 7:33 pm (approximately a quarter of the way down page 2 right now)

    "I haven't directly measured battery life yet, but I've left a GBA running Accelerated overnight and I don't see it having a huge impact on battery life. There is very little extra heat generated (if any at all), so a heatsink won't be neccessary."

    And before anyone replies with "Jeez, it was a joke, must've gone over your head" stuff, I already realize that.

  7. For a 0.1 version emulator? by galtenberg · · Score: 5, Insightful

    How about they get the emulator past v0.1 before I start mucking with my hardware.

  8. Re:Won't Nintendo have a DMCA hissy fit? by I_Love_Pocky! · · Score: 2, Insightful

    But in this case it is their hardware (just not the original platform), and if you can prove you own the original cartridge I don't see what the problem could be.

    It seems like it could encourage GBA purchases.

  9. the legend of Art? by tepples · · Score: 2, Insightful

    But video games? These are stricly entertainment.

    That seems to imply that you do not consider video games artistic. Could you please back up that view?

  10. Re:Its only a little scarry by 74nova · · Score: 2, Insightful
    what are you stupid? this article is about the fact that an emulator exists and already emulates some games at full speed
    no, are you stupid? the article is also about overclocking 2x to run that emulator.
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  11. Re:Probably Won't Happen by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Well the GBA has some advantages your PDA doesn't, that being the built in graphics and sound processors. PDAs are very much like old PCs in design. Everything is done by the CPU. The graphics and sound output are generally real simple subsystems. Well the GBA has quite powerful graphics and sound processors, hence how it manages to have all those cool games with a slow processor.

    Well, if an emulator can be made to successfully take advantage of those subsystems, it can accomplish a whole lot with the slow CPU. Now can that actually happen? I don't know, I'm not sure if there is an efficient way to use these processors, but it is possible.

  12. Re:gba mod by zapp · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I don't see this working very well honestly...

    What about times when you need to run (b button), look up(L button), and fire your weapon (X button), for example?

    There are many times when multiple buttons are pressed at the same time.

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  13. Re:Probably Won't Happen by Fancia · · Score: 2, Insightful
    The GBA doesn't really have much of a sound processor to speak of. But its video processor is very nice; in fact, it already has a video mode compatible to the SNES' mode1, which is what 95% of games use. SNESAdvance translates the SNES' video calls to GBA video calls, which allows things to run very quickly.

    And, at any rate, SNESAdvance can already run some games at full speed without speedhacking; with overclocking and possible speedhacking, I'm certain you could get them to run with sound at full speed.

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  14. Re:I would think an even bigger problem would be.. by Gothic_Walrus · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Adding a shift button would effectively take us from six buttons to ten: (6-1) x 2

    Still...what about games where you need quick access to all of the buttons? Fighters, Street Fighter II being the big one, would be nigh impossible to play, as would any games that require the use of multiple buttons in quick succession.

    I still think that SNES emulation on the GBA is a lost cause...Wait until the next system, possibly the DS, and get it right then. Don't bother when you don't have enough buttons OR horsepower.

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  15. Chess, Super Mario Kart and other classic games... by Jagasian · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I still play Super Mario Kart battle mode for the SNES, on a regular basis, with my friends. The games are short, action packed, full of strategy, and lots of fun. So you can squeeze in a few games every now and then with your friends. Super Mario Kart is over 10 years old!

    Another perfect example is Chess. It is hundreds of years old, and people still play it today as they find it entertaining to do so. Board games can be seen as the precessor to video games. They are visual games that require manual human intervention to enforce the rules and update the board layout.

    In fact, it could be argued that some games get better with time. When Chess was first invented, everyone was equivalent to how you and your friends were when you first tried to play it: they all sucked. Games were won basically by luck in the begining. As time went on, what people knew about Chess and how to play it improved. So the games of Chess that were played when it was first made are not nearly as good as some of the games played hundreds of years later.

    I notice the same thing with many of the video games that I play for more than a year: Tetris, Quake, Super Mario Kart, etc... my enjoyment of them has increased over the years because my knowledge of the games has improved.

    For multiplayer videos games, my skills as well as the skills of my opponents have improved. Hence our matches are more entertaining than the early years, when matches were won mostly by luck of a player stumbling onto on aspect of the game that had yet to be discovered.

  16. Other overclocking reasons by Psykechan · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Overclocking gaming systems is not new. I overclocked my Atari Lynx back in the day.(24MHz from 16MHz)

    The reason I did it was to play games in turbo speed. STUN Runner played great at 1.5 times speed. A 1.2 to 1.4 increase would be great for most GBA games. Underclocking could also be useful for poor gamers. I know a lot of gamers who would like a speed switch on their system.

  17. Is it just me.... by GaimeGuy · · Score: 0, Insightful

    Or do people spend WAY too much time trying to emulate the older consoles on the newer consoles?