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Criticizing Sun's Java Desktop System
An anonymous reader writes "Uh-oh. PJ is not a happy camper. 'Sun has made its choice and opted for The Way Things Used To Be,' she declares in a Linux Viewpoint at LinuxWorld. 'It's a new world, and Sun is not in it,' she declares. Her gripe is with the Java Desktop System, which she argues is grossly cavalier with the GPL and doesn't properly acknowledge its roots. Her main objection: 'You really could get the CD and run it without every knowing it had anything GNU/Linuxy in it or that the GPL provides you with guaranteed freedoms that Sun would like you not to know you have.' Feisty read, as ever, from Groklaw's founder and editor. That Jonesian coinage 'GNU/Linuxy' is worth the read alone!"
GNU/Linuxy
Run for your lives. RMS is pissed
'GNU/Linuxy'? That's so like uh huh yesterday like. *girly giggle* I mean like she's so not with it like *hair flick* She should get with the times and like stop it *bounce*
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"Just remember, ....RealPlayer's not open-source, but its availability certainly enhances the value of our Java Desktop System."
Um... yeah. In the same way installing Gator enhances the value of a Windows system.
Karma: It's all a bunch of tree-huggin' hippy crap!
"There is only one Lord of the Ring, only one who can bend it to his will...
That guy from Goatse?
http://jesus.everdense.com/
PJ purports that making things easy and fun will not distract people from open source.
I've observed that everytime there is a pain in the ass app( or a lacking app ) and an easy/fun one people will dump the pain in the ass app everytime.......even open source fans.
The good news is that SUN wouldn't know user friendly if it bit them on the ass.
Another company might highjack the open source thing by flooding the community with easier, better apps.......maybe......but it will not be SUN.
I say this as someone who has programmed in Java for the last 5 years and who has seen the level of front end quality SUN is in the habit of giving to people.
No offense to anyone.......that company just does not understand "easy" or "friendly".
Steve
"Used PAM to login to a Linux box lately? "
No thank God.
*Slackware Rules*
Repeal the 17th Amendment TODAY! Also Please Read http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/right-to-read.html
Somewhere on the path to Mordor....
"We hates them, the nasty Linuxies!", hissed Darllum. "They STOLE the precious from us. Evil Linuxies! We hates them!"
"But Linuxies helps us!", he wimpered. "They gives us nice IPO...they gives us Kernel Personality. SAMBA is our friend!"
"We don't have any friends!", he spat, eyes glowing with hatred and fury. "Evil, tricksie Linuxies! They STOLE it! We HATES them!"
"OK, Sam", sighed Frodo, "I've changed my mind. You can kill him now."
YooHoo/2U2
"You really could get the CD and run it without ever knowing it had anything GNU/Linuxy in it or that the GPL provides you with guaranteed freedoms that Sun would like you not to know you have."
So Fucking What?
Where in the beloved GPL does it say, "any use or inclusion of GNU software in any bundle must be accompanied by a thee piece band and six minutes of CGI fireworks on the end user's screen."
I had a lot more respect for the people behind groklaw before this. However, this rant is worthy of Stallman, or even (shudder) Eric Raymond.
What's her point? Sounds like a bunch of whining to me.
"People who do stupid things with hazardous materials often die." -- Jim Davidson on alt.folklore.urban
Yeah? But how about them AMIGA zealots? :-)
We ain't that bad now are we?
I like paying taxes. With them I buy civilization -- Oliver Wendell Holmes
What happens when (not if, someday it will happen) Microsoft ceases to exist as a company
I'd always wondered when/how they'd turn into Weyland-Yutani.