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Linux Desktop Summit 2004 Review

An anonymous reader writes "I had the experience this week of attending the Linux Desktop Summit hosted by Michael Robertson's Linspire, Lindows, or whatever you want to call it these days. Irregardless of what you call it, it's Linux, and the general consensus from vendors and attendees was, "We're here to stay." I have to say that this was an interesting convention. Keeping in line with the Linux community, there was more of a sense of community rather than the typical "Choose our product" ambiance, With a few exceptions of course."

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  1. it IS here to stay by Chuck+Bucket · · Score: 4, Informative

    every year is called 'the year of th elinux desktop', but every year little progress SEEMS to be made. the fact is, Linux IS still around, and will be for a long time. it's acceptance on the desktop will rise as younger folks come into the workplace. think about it, more college students use/understand linux and open source, so yeah, I'm bullish on the future of Linux on the Desktop.

    Plus, with WMs like XFCE4 and desktops like Gnome2.6 and KDE 3.2, you can tell that the technology is already there for 90% of what you need on the desktop.

    VDS

    1. Re:it IS here to stay by name773 · · Score: 3, Informative
      WMs like XFCE4 and desktops like Gnome2.6 and KDE 3.2
      and ratpoison is pretty good for a lightweight wm. seing a highres terminal at full screen... drool. oh and konqueror on full screen... that's amazing.

      p.s. i found out about ratpoison via a /. post

  2. clarifications on the games by SilentWatcher · · Score: 5, Informative
    Further on down my wanderings, I bumped into GarageGames.com. They have a kick-ass commercial game which looks a lot like Mech Warrior, and it runs nicely and natively under Linux. They also demo'd the classic Doom game which runs under Linspire's Click-And-Run installation.

    I was working for Garage Games at this conference.

    The large robot game is Dark Horizon's: Lore and it will be released for linux in a few weeks. It is already available for windows and osx.

    We also showed Think Tanks, Orbz, and Marble Blast. All of these are available for windows, mac and linux, from the Garage Games site.

    We did NOT demo Doom. People were playing that because some of the machines didn't have good enough 3D acceleration (i.e. no nvidia cards) to run the other games.

  3. Converting Users by cloudless.net · · Score: 3, Informative
    "Their plan is simple. Give your Windows users applications which run on both Linux and Windows, teach them how to use them and when they are comfortable, replace the Operating System with Linux."

    In my experience it is not as simple as that. Most people have resistance for change. When they have got used to one operating system it is not easy to teach them to do things in a different way. And Linux is still behind Windows in terms of usability, which I think should be the first priority for future Linux development.

    1. Re:Converting Users by westlake · · Score: 1, Informative
      Most people wouldn't notice if you swapped Windows XP and XPde on their machines until they realized that their desktop had been running for a couple of months without a virus attack bringing their system to its knees.

      How strange. I have been using Windows at home since '95 and have yet to log a virus. The systems at work seem to keep ticking along as well.

  4. They, err, he, was there by amorphosamon · · Score: 2, Informative

    Someone was there. They didn't have any decorations or such. I didn't even talk to the guy. Then again, Sun didn't really make an effort to have a booth either. In fact, they weren't there at all the first day.

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    religion != morality
  5. Re:Somehow I'm pretty sure Mandrake was missing .. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    I'll deny it.

    I found Mandrake 9.2 to be fairly buggy and easy to confuse. Try changing to/from GMT in the hwclock sometime. Try calling your optical disks something other than CDROM0, CDROM1, CDROM2, etc. sometime. Try running their framebuffered version of VNC sometime and explain why it runs 10x slower than vanilla VNC?

    I'm just an AC, so don't listen to me, but Mandrake shouldn't market themselves until they get a distribution that has more than skin-deep beauty.

  6. Re:Linux: My Observations(Certified MS Professiona by Geoffreyerffoeg · · Score: 2, Informative

    > > Bad karma: Don't attack Linux viciously

    > (Score:-1, Flamebait)

    I couldn't've said it better myself. ;-)

  7. Re:Irregardless is not a word by sl0ppy · · Score: 3, Informative

    it's nonstandard, but it is a word. it entered common usage in the early 20th century, and has been accepted in most dictionaries since a little past 1927.

    irregardless is synonymous with regardless.

  8. Re:Creative english by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Actually it IS a word.

    from m-w online:
    "Main Entry: irregardless
    Pronunciation: "ir-i-'gärd-l&s
    Function: adverb
    Etymology: probably blend of irrespective and regardless
    nonstandard : REGARDLESS
    usage Irregardless originated in dialectal American speech in the early 20th century. Its fairly widespread use in speech called it to the attention of usage commentators as early as 1927. The most frequently repeated remark about it is that "there is no such word." There is such a word, however. It is still used primarily in speech, although it can be found from time to time in edited prose. Its reputation has not risen over the years, and it is still a long way from general acceptance. Use regardless instead."

  9. Re:Because you probably use AntiVirus... by westlake · · Score: 2, Informative
    Of course I use anti-virus.
    But I don't know of any operating system that is perfectly secure and maintains free out of the box.

    Also I'm sure you are ultra careful when visiting certain sites, and avoid doing things which will lead to infestation.

    Not particularly. There are some simple, practical, barriers erected through the options in IE6, Norton and others. Regrettably, my interests and tastes rarely lead me to sites that would be dangerous.

    And then there's the mail client problem; You'd have made sure you have HTML and preview off, and closely monitor all attachments, in order to avoid those nasty viruses

    HTML is on, and preview, and no harm done. I know my correspondents, after all. Outlook Express hasn't allowed executables to be opened in quite some time.

    And patches! Don't forget the critical update patches! Every week now, isn't it? What fun.

    Patches are generally once a month, and the process is automated. Trivial, really, over a broadband connection. Nothing to obsess over.

    preferring to work with a real operating system, I don't have such concerns. Having watched the progression -- and lack of real progress -- by Microsoft since MS-DOS, I won't be changing my stance anytime soon.

    As you chose. But the oldest programs on my system are the Infocom games and Commander Keen and the newest Paint Shop Pro 8. That's not a bad run for O/S that you have never considered quite real.
  10. You have no idea how funny your post is by qwijibrumm · · Score: 2, Informative

    It's really ironic how you sound like a grammar nazi, and proceed into a nonsensical rambling with no paragraph breaks, or even a logical thought process. This is not unlike the way a fifth grade student writes. Writing should be clear and tend to revolve around a single point. You seem to jump from point A to point Q. Personally, I could care less. This is just a goofy geek forum website. Irregardless of this fact, your hypocrisy was just too priceless to pass up.

    Now, notice the use of ironic here. It is used in a roughly correct manner. You intended to blast horrible writing, but created horrible writing in the process. Some could argue that this is still not irony, but it is at least a decent use of the word.

    "This is not unlike" is a valid phrase. It highlights that there are few things dissimilar. The phrase "This is like" would tend to highlight the similarities. It all depends on the tone, and what you would like to highlight.

    The saying, "I could care less," means, "I care for some reason. I have the capacity and capability to not care. As a matter of fact, I'm not sure why I care." Whereas, "I could not care less," simply means, "I don't care at all."

    "Irregardless" is a word. It means "regardless." And while I agree that it should not be used outside familiar conversation, it is not considered a double negative. But as shown with "This is not unlike," even double negatives have a place. Now it's time for someone to blast me on my misuse of commas or something.

    --
    I wish there was some there was some way that I could be outside playing basketball, in the rain, and not get wet.
  11. Mandrake Booth Anyone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Overall the convention was ok. The speakers simply trying to pedal their wares was pretty old pretty fast. Congrats Sun, for more demonstration, less bullshit speeches. Whomever only gave them a half hour was really acting the fool. Anyone notice the Mandrake guy day 2? He left around noon it seemed like. Some asshole kids took over his booth, and apparently ate his cookies. They kept spouting off about Gentoo, and added a post-it note to the mandrake sign that made it read "Not Mandrake Software". I don't think the Mandrake guy noticed he was sitting 2 feet infront of the WAP. Next year hook Sun up with more speaking time.