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FOSS Application Under Attack by Makers of KaZaa

Famatra writes "A story from Zeropaid indicates that maker of KaZaA, Sharman Networks, has sent a Cease and Desist Letter to the maker of KCEasy because it interoperates with their FastTrack network. The creator of KCeasy says on the KCEasy website "I feel that inclusion of FastTrack access with KCeasy is not worth a legal battle between Sharman and myself". A similar issue was covered by the Slashdot story Fight On Blizzard Vs. Bnetd Case on the right to reverse engineer to create an interoperable network. Reverse engineering to be another on the list of rights that have fallen by the wayside?"

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  1. Latest threat to P2P comes from within by Sanity · · Score: 5, Informative
    This is just one example of the increasing threat that Kazaa, or more precicely the companies around it, pose to innovation in the P2P space.

    Perhaps the best example is their aquisition of patent #5,978,791, filed in 1997, which claims to cover the retrieval of a file across a network using a hash of the file's contents.

    Set aside, for a moment, that this technique is completley obvious and has been around for decades (the earliest reference I can find is the Xanadu project from the early 90s - but I haven't looked very hard), and consider the fact that these guys could use this patent to effectively shut down almost anyone that comes up with a P2P app that doesn't have the funding to fight them in court (since most if not all modern P2P apps use this technique).

    The bottom line is that companies such as Brilliant Digital Entertainment (the same nice people that were behind the adware that Kazaa is now famous for) are almost as much a threat to P2P as the better known people everybody loves to hate.

    If anyone is interested, here is a more detailed article I wrote on the subject.

  2. I think we all recognize by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    That the developers of Kazaa are strict believers in tough copyright law. This is simply an extension of that view.

  3. You know it's a dark day when.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Kazaa sends a cease and desist letter to YOU!

  4. Haven't we seen similar issues before? by StateOfTheUnion · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Isn't this a lot like the battles for rights to connect to online chat networks a couple of years ago? I remember folks going after trillian because they didn't want to have third party chat clients connecting in and not letting the chat networks' proprietary client deliver adware/spyware . . .

    Sounds like Kazaa is fighting the same sort of thing for the same sort of reason except that in the case of chat, one must connect to the central servers of the chat netowrk. Can Kazaa really claim ownership-like rights to a network that doesn't depend on their servers for functionality? It would seem that Kazaa has created a Frankenstein monster . . . that perhaps they cannot wholly control . . .

  5. Good analogy? by wtrmute · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Dude, that isn't a good analogy by any stretch of the imagination. Kazaa doesn't own its own network, because it's set up using its users' bandwidth; it doesn't in fact provide very much at all, besides the client. After Napster and Audiogalaxy there isn't much in the way of centralization in these networks. What does this mean? It means that KCEasy provides as much of the "network" infrastructure as the real clients. Nothing of Sharman Networks' bandwidth or computing resources are being used up, so why do they get to say who can come in and who stays out?

    1. Re:Good analogy? by wtrmute · · Score: 5, Insightful

      They'd be tampering with stuff which resides on the bank's servers and isn't meant to be tampered with -- they'd be impersonating me. That isn't even reverse engineering, it's fraud. In this case, the network is being used to upload/download files using whatever (little) authentication is used on the real thing, honestly. It's not impersonating anyone.

      Frankly, when I'm sharing stuff on my P2P client, I (as sharer) don't care if whoever gets it is using Kazaa, KCEasy, Morpheus or whatnot. I'm providing the content and the bandwidth and I don't appreciate Sharman telling me who can talk to me and get it and who can't.

  6. In other news... by 3Suns · · Score: 5, Funny

    ... Ford Motors, inc. has announced its patent on "ROAD", a network protocol for piloting land vehicles. Several other companies, including General Motors, DaimlerChrysler, Honda, Toyota, Volkswagen, Nissan, and Uncle Hiram's Buggies also make vehicles that are compatible with the ROAD protocol.

    Ford has threatened to sue these companies, alleging that they reverse-engineered key parts of ROAD, including the maximum width of allowable vehicles, and the use of round "wheels" for efficient travel on ROAD networks.

    --

    -3Suns

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    The Revolution will be Slashdotted
  7. Re:KCEasy is just a front-end by twitchkat · · Score: 5, Informative
    KCEasy is simply a front-end. KCEasy makes use of giFT

    KCEasy may be just a front-end, but it is a front-end developed by one of the guys heavily involved in reverse-engineering the KaZaA encryption algorithms (eg, /src/crypt/enc_type_*.c) for the giFT-fasttrack plug-in: mkern.

    See:

    http://cvs.berlios.de/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/gift-fas ttrack/giFT-FastTrack/src/crypt/

    Maybe the KaZaA people are miffed at his reverse-engineering ways and chose to attack here rather than at the gift-fasttrack plug-in level?

  8. Reverse Engineering is legal, but not access by EaglesNest · · Score: 5, Informative
    Under U.S. Copyright law, fair use allows reverse engineering of funcational components because they are ideas (or facts) not expression. However, a provisions from our friend the DMCA (17 U.S.C. 1201) makes it illegal to bypass an overt technological protection that restricts (a) access or (b) protects the rights of the author. Think of this as breaking open a safe (illegal) to get to something inside that you're allowed to copy (legal).

    As for intruding on a private network, the network is composed primarily of users, if I'm not mistaken. Still, companies like E-bay have been successful in using trespass (to chattles) to keep people off their servers if they make it clear that they don't want them on there.

  9. Re:*rights*??? by MrBlackBand · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Where in the constitution does it say we have to right to reverse engineer a proprietary network so we can use it to make money?

    Amendment IX
    The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

    i'm tired of all these folks making up "rights" that don't exist.

    And I'm tired of people thinking we don't have rights just because they aren't spelled out in the Constitution. Remember, the Constitution limits the rights of the government, it doesn't grant the people rights. We have them to begin with.

    --
    "It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it."
  10. Re:Reverse Engineering: A right? In danger? Huh? by jonbryce · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Sharman say it is not their network. They say that they only supply the software.

    That is why they are allowed to continue in business, and that is why they are not liable for any copyright infringement that takes place on the network.

    The only possible basis therefore for preventing other people from writing software that can connect to the same third party networks that their software connects to is patent infringement.