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Thermoacoustic Cooler Means Green-Friendly Icecream

MuddyRiverDoc writes "National Public Radio aired a story describing ice cream manufacturer Ben & Jerry's sponsored development of a thermoacoustic refrigeration technology, which uses helium gas subjected to ultra-loud 173 db sound to chill an ice cream cooler. The NPR interview and pictures of the Penn State researchers who did the development is available. There is also a brief description of the technique at the Penn State Live site and at the BBC, and an over-cute Ben & Jerry's broadband presentation, Sounds Cool!, that does however provide a useful diagram. Thermoacoustic refrigeration has been a focus of research for more than a decade at Purdue and elsewhere, and has reportedly flown on the Space Shuttle, but this prototype is reportedly the first that demonstrates the size, efficiency, and quiet operation that promises successful commercial introduction. Cool Sound Industries, Inc. is reportedly exclusively licensed for this thermoacoustic technology."

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  1. Same Energy as Freon Systems by N8F8 · · Score: 4, Informative

    I heard this interview on the radio. Apparently the process doesn't save any energy. It doesn't use ozone depleting chemicals though. Unless it ends up being much less expensive to manufacture I doubt it will go anywhere.

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    1. Re:Same Energy as Freon Systems by deacon · · Score: 2, Informative
      Yes. And what's worse, a system that would have improved efficiency and been a drop-in replacement for R-12 (Freon) was blocked from approval.

      The drop-in substitution would have saved hundreds of tons of equipment that was otherwise scrapped.

      I am talking about refrigerants that are a mixture of Propane and Butane. The thermodynamic properties of these mixtures are better than that of Freon. The gases are very inexpensive and relatively harmless to ingest, and can be disposed of by using them to cook food.

      Someone will doubtless joke that the fridge will go boom, but of course sealed systems are normal, the amount of gas inside is small, and designing spaces which don't go boom if there is a leak is a well known art.

      There is more risk of harm when you carry a butane lighter in your pocket.

    2. Re:Same Energy as Freon Systems by HPNpilot · · Score: 2, Informative

      We most certainly have NOT done away with Freon. We have changed the formulation of refrigerants (Freon is a brand name) to eliminate chlorine because in the upper atmosphere the chlorine splits off and catalytically destroys ozone. The refrigerants were reformulated to use flourine instead. However, these gases are still harmful as "greenhouse gases" in that they tend to make the atmosphere and earth absorb more heat than is lost through radiation, unbalancing the thermal ecosystem.

      Present refrigeration systems rely on phase change, meaning the heat transfer is aided by a phase change of the refrigerant (gas to liquid, liquid to gas). This new system does not require that phase change so it may use an inert gas which is not formulated to have a phase change point near the target cold side temperature. Helium and argon were mentioned as possible gases.

      This is new technology and it may end up being possible to create higher efficiency systems than the present phase change systems. I haven't done an analysis of the thermodynamics to see what the limits are but it is certainly interesting to see what comes of this.

    3. Re:Same Energy as Freon Systems by Cecil · · Score: 2, Informative

      Actually, I work as a lead programmer for an international petroleum engineering/consulting company. So when it comes to petroleum products I do actually have a pretty good idea of what I'm talking about, at least relative to most Slashdotters. I know a lot of numbers for Propane off the top of my head, so I'll stick to that primarily. Butane is very similar in properties to Propane though, so it shouldn't make much difference.

      The stuff they wanted to use for refrigerants is not the same stuff you light up a cigar, or BBQ on a grill with.

      I guarantee it is the same stuff, although it's kept in compressed or liquid form, by the sound of it.

      Both of those include significant amounts of moisture to prevent a large explosion.

      I've never heard of this. The only additive in commercially-available propane and butane is the mercaptans used to make it smell. The only thing that I can imagine adding moisture would do is reduce the effectiveness of the mercaptans, which are actually quite notorious for being suppressed by moisture.

      Butane/propane-based refrigerants if used in a conventional single family refrigerator appliance would have enough explosive gas to not only take out your house, but both of your neighbors as well.

      If you happened to get this propane into a healthy mix with oxygen and then light it, yes, it can be very explosive, but realistically that isn't quite as easy as it sounds. If it was, you would hear much more often about trailerparks and campgrounds completely obliterating themselves, considering each resident usually has at least 1 propane tank and usually several. Propane has a fairly narrow flammability range. With a mix of anything less than about 2.5% propane to air, there isn't enough fuel and any attempt at ignition starves. Any more than 10% propane, though, and it will quickly suffocate itself of air, preventing further ignition. This is the same reason real cars don't explode when they burn, unlike Hollywood's take on the concept.

      Basically, the only way for a large-scale explosion to occur is for the propane gas to leak into the house, slowly propagating and mixing with the air, then being ignited by a spark while the concentration is in its flammable range. Keep in mind this has to be done without anyone noticing the stink of mercaptans, which are quite noticable at concentrations of around 0.5% and higher. So, basically, the only way for the gas to reach the 2.5% lower limit without someone noticing, is if no one is home. This is basically identical to the process that leads to the relatively few natural gas explosions (which are often fed by a shattered pipeline after the explosion, for added fun and destruction)

      We have already been managing risks just like this sucessfully for a long time now, with few problems. That's what really irks me about this. Most of the fear-mongering that goes on doesn't seem to notice that almost everything around us is, or can be, extremely dangerous. But we're crafty, adaptive little creatures and we have many very smart people carefully ensuring that any danger is sufficiently mitigated. And given the amount of stuff that *just works*, compared to the small percentage that have turned out to be dangerous above and beyond what we anticipated, I think that our creativity has earned some trust.

  2. Re:noisy by br0ck · · Score: 5, Informative

    Well, here's yet another link that says..

    But from the outside, it's no noisier than your typical icebox. The noise generated by the Penn State fridge can only be reached when the gas is under tremendous amounts of pressure -- 10 atmospheres worth. If the gas escapes, the pressure dissipates and the sound dies down.

  3. Pop Sci by ryanmfw · · Score: 1, Informative

    Pop Sci had a small bit of coverage on this about half a year ago. Not very informative, but, it can't hurt. Anyway, I'm wondering how feasible putting this in a house is, since the padding required to block the noise would be so bulky (IANAAE) that to make it fit in a standard refrigerator cabinet, you'd have 3 ft^3 of space. :-) Of course, they could just make a small compartment for freezing the foods quickly, and then move them into normal storage. Well, I'll go off to read the article so I have a clue now. :-)

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  4. Not at all... by cnelzie · · Score: 5, Informative

    ...the system works with the 'woofer' producing the single note within a sealed container. From what I heard on NPR, the sound is no more loud then walking into a large server room and hearing the fans run. It's just a bit deeper of a sound.

    Inside the canister there's 198 Decibels going on... That would shatter your ear drums and make your eyes bleed (possibly) pretty quick I understand...

    Outside the container all your hear is a regular humming noise at one frequency...

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  5. Re:Peltier cooler? by Geiger581 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Peltier coolers are very inefficient in terms of heat shift. Right now, the best known materials aren't much more than ~10% of Carnot (thermodynamically limited) efficiency. This means that they produce a lot of heat to move just a little. This is why your Peltier block will get pretty chilly on one side but scalding hot on the other and why CPU Peltier rigs virtually require a water block to operate. Standard phase-change coolers are much better, and these new devices (haven't read the article yet) may be even better.

  6. Re:Peltier cooler? by WindBourne · · Score: 4, Informative

    They opperate at 5% efficiency, while top end refrigeration is at 45%. Instead, these guy should be looking at cool chips, which opperate at 55% efficiency.

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  7. Re:Dangerous by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    If you suck the freon out of your conventional freezer it will kill you too. If you'd RTFA you'd know the sound waves are contained in the cooling chamber ond only a dull hum (comparable to a normal fridge) is heard.

  8. Re:Apparent Contraditions by phaze3000 · · Score: 2, Informative
    Were the fridge ever to crack open, the vast sounds generated within would not escape because the intense noise can only be generated in the pressurised gas locked inside the cooling system.

    RTFA

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  9. Re:Microwave Fridge by mangu · · Score: 3, Informative
    The difference between heating and cooling is that one can send energy, in the form of electromagnetic waves, into the food, where it's converted to thermal energy. The frequency used in microwave ovens is 2.45 GHz, which is absorbed by water and converted to heat.


    OTOH, one can't convert thermal energy back into microwaves, so the heat must get out of the food by thermal conduction, which isn't very quick in the usual food substances.

  10. Re:Dangerous by SlayerofGods · · Score: 1, Informative

    Freon
    Because Freon is non-toxic, it eliminated the danger posed by refrigerator leaks.
    First result when googleing for freon.
    Things can brake you know and the sound can get out.

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  11. Re:Peltier cooler? by mangu · · Score: 3, Informative

    Besides the low efficiency mentioned above, there are two other problems with Peltier chips. One is cost. The second problem is that, being made of lead telluride, they aren't very environment-friendly. Lead compounds are rather toxic and do not degrade in nature.

  12. Re:Microwave Fridge by mangu · · Score: 3, Informative
    Thermoacoustic cooling does not convert heat into any other form of energy. It works as a heat pump, where the gas absorbs heat at one end and carries it to the other end. Sound waves are used to move the gas from one end to the other.


    Unfortunately, there's absolutely no way to move heat from anywhere to a warmer place. When one wants to cool something to a temperature that's lower than the ambient we are in, one must first raise the temperature of the medium we want to cool. In both "classical" refirgerators, where a compressor is used, and in these new thermoacoustic chillers, the means used to raise the temperature is by compressing a gas. The compressed gas becomes warmer than the ambient and radiates heat away, through a heat exchanger. When the gas is expanded its temperature drops. Since we let it radiate heat when it was compressed, this expansion will make it drop its temperature to a point that's lower than the ambient temperature.

  13. Refrigeration efficiencies compared by Geiger581 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Reported maximums (research-only included) in terms of Carnot efficiency:
    Stirling-cycle (phase-change): ~50%
    Peltier junction (solid state): ~10%
    Thermoacoustics (standing wave in gas): ~40%

    Using a 'speaker fridge' now would be quite wasteful in terms of efficiency, although researchers believe that they can surpass the old CFC-type compressors soon.

    The question that comes to my mind, though, is why the focus on the cooling itself. For a non-emissive object like ice cream, better energy conservation may be more easily achieved through better insulation. How about investing in cheaper silica aerogel, hippies? This stuff is virtually as light as air, essentially made of sand, almost as insulative as pure vacuum, and fairly strong. Having a cooling engine without any ozone-depleting chemicals is great, but it's kind of silly if your freezers still have interior styrofoam lining.

  14. Heard this on NPR yesterday by Lebo · · Score: 4, Informative

    First off, the 190db figure is the sound level INSIDE the unit. Acording to the reporter, the sound level outside the unit was no louder then a standard cooling unit.
    From the description of given, the tech sounds interesting. They use a powerfull speaker to create areas of high and low preassure in the chamber. In the areas of low preassure they place tubes which run to the cold case. In the areas of high pressure they place tubes which run to an external heat exchanger to vent the waste heat.
    I can definately see this technology comeing into widespread use in the future, as stricter enviromental controls continue to restrict conventional refirgerants. I also wonder how well it would work in an automotive setting, where the high level of vibration makes coolant loss more of an issue.

  15. The Hilsch Vortex Tube by ch-chuck · · Score: 4, Informative

    I always liked these - not too hard to make, but also not as effecient as other methodes. Apply compressed air, tube gets hot on one end and cold on the other.

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  16. Re:Peltier cooler? by nherc · · Score: 2, Informative
    Actually, from their literature, it appears this is just A BETTER peltier.

    Basically, they put a gap (of air or other gas) which acts as an insulator between the hot and cold side of the peltier which they somehow get the electrons to tunnel over. This keeps the hot and cold sides completely seperated, which is the real efficiency issue with current peltiers.

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  17. Re:Three Observations by (ana!)a · · Score: 2, Informative

    Helium is extracted from natural gas, and it's a rare and non renewable resource. You can find it in the atmosphere, too, but it would be way to expensive to exploit. Right now the trend it too reduce the amount of helium used in the industry where possible, or else we'll eventually run out of the resource. You can have a look at : http://www4.nationalacademies.org/news.nsf/isbn/03 09070384

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  18. Won't work.. by beldraen · · Score: 2, Informative

    Doesn't quite work that way. The reason why you have problems with noise is that speakers are intentionally designed to propogate sound. When sound waves hit your walls the walls resonate and pass along the sound. The refrigerater is quiet to the external world because the compression chamber is designed exactly so that the sound waves reflect and cancel in exacting positions inside the chamber. There is no excess accustic energy left to leave the chamber. This can only be done because the sound waves generated are exactly the wave length that matches the distance inside the chamber necessary to cancel. In other words, if you could "build a wall of it," it would only stop one exact frequency. What you really want is accustic foam that is designed to stop a wide frequency range of sound. This is commonly used in studios to prevent echos off the walls that give the "recorded in a box" sound effect.

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  19. Helium and Argon by dpilot · · Score: 3, Informative

    The key difference between helium and argon is density. Helium is (obviously) lighter than air, and when released, floats to the top of the atmosphere. Presumably some evaporates into interplanetary space, given the energetic environment, there. Argon is denser than air, so it will tend to stay in the lower atmosphere.

    Both are fossils of creation, but helium is also generated by alpha decay of radioactives inside the Earth. (Alpha decay particle steals two electrons from an unsuspecting nearby atom and presto, helium.)

    If there were enough desire for helium, it might be possible to scoop it from the upper atmosphere. There has been talk of space planes running an oxygen liqufaction cycle for an 'air-breathing rocket'. If we can actually do that, we're halfway to mining helium. Helium would be part of the stuff that *didn't* liquify on the first part of the cycle.

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    1. Re:Helium and Argon by WalksOnDirt · · Score: 2, Informative

      Argon primarily comes from the radioactive decay of potassium-40. Alpha decay being more common, a lot more helium is generated then argon.

      The atmosphere is basically homogeneous up to about 100 km, and contains about 5 ppm helium.

      Helium doesn't doesn't become a large part of the atmosphere until well above the altitude of the international space station, where I think the prospects for helium mining is limited.

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  20. refrigerant gases by ajs318 · · Score: 2, Informative

    The whole point about CFCs in fridges is that they are sealed in a closed loop {compressor - condenser - evaporator}, therefore, not able to damage the ozone layer until the fridge is disposed of {or you have an accident while defrosting with a chisel .....} The usual way of getting rid of CFCs is to wait until nobody is looking, then discharge them into the atmosphere. Practically speaking, there's not a lot else you can do with them anyway. So if you have a CFC-based fridge and it's still working reasonably well, you should hang onto it -- as long as it's not being abused, it won't be using significantly more energy than a more modern one would, and manufacturing a refrigerator uses up a lot of energy {which also is conveniently forgotten}. If it cost x kWh to make in the first place, and saves y kWh per year compared to the old fridge, it needs to last for x/y years before you have actually made any saving -- if it packs up before that time limit, you actually lose out on the deal {assuming the old one would have survived that long; but older kit was built to last forever, whereas newer stuff is built to pack up after awhile}.

    My new fridge {purchased in a hurry after a defrosting accident last year involving a chisel, the evaporator and a faceful of evil-smelling chemicals} uses iso-butane -- cigarette lighter and camping stove fuel -- as its refrigerant. It's sealed in the pipes, so there is no danger of an explosion. Even if the pipes do start leaking, the thermostat won't be satisfied -- no matter how long the motor runs {trying to cool down the sensor} it won't get anywhere because there is no pressure, so no cooling ..... so the contacts will stay closed and not spark. If anything does set off an explosion, it won't be the fridge itself.

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  21. Cool Sounds NOT ! by anothermulekickin · · Score: 2, Informative

    As one of the inventors of this technology, I want make certain that readers understand that COOLSOUNDS and Kieth Franklin are NOT licenced, are UNRELATED, and are NOT IN ANY WAY ASSOCIATED WITH THE PSU TEAM !

  22. Re:Question by TheLink · · Score: 2, Informative

    Even if a fridge isn't the most efficient way to warm the house, it very efficient.

    A fridge isn't that efficient in cooling, but it is very efficient in generating heat. Basic physics/thermodynamics.

    Like many other devices most of the energy ends up as heat, very little escapes the room/house as light or other forms of energy. In fact a fridge pumps the heat from stuff inside it.

    A heatpump can actually be more efficient at heating than a pure 100% heater. This is achieved by pumping the heat from somewhere so you get additional heat on top of the energy you put in.

    A fridge is problematic if you don't want the room warmer. e.g. you are airconditioning the room and your fridge is inside the room.

    Of you want the fridge to cool more effectively whilst inside an already warm room.

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