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UIUC Unveils the Worlds Most Advanced Building

Eagle5596 writes "The University of Illinois at Urbana Champaign, one of the top Computer Science programs in the world has just officially opened their new $80 million Siebel Center. The department head describes the building as a single computing entity, meant to be programmed and to interact with those in the building via RFID tags in their ID cards. This is probably one of the biggest and most expensive projects in ubiquitous computing ever launched, touching on all the important issues in this field, from privacy to the ultimate question about the usefulness of such a system. Several papers are covering this including the Chicago Sun Times, and the Chicago Business"

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  1. security issues? by eisenbud · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Apparently RFID tags (and anything that doesn't have its own power source) don't have enough power to do real crypto. So this will be great until someone builds a device to read people's tags as they walk down the hall, and then impersonate any of them to the building. At least with keys or magnetic striped cards you have to get physical access to them before you can copy them.

    1. Re:security issues? by thecap · · Score: 2, Interesting
      I think that passively powered devices may eventually power "real crypto". See Integrating passive RF technology with cryptographic communications protocols.

      Your claim of needed physical access is not true. I work in Siebel. Like most people there I use my i-card for access to locked doors. This card contains a magnetic strip just like a credit card. We have been provided with necklaces for holding our i-card so it is easy to swipe. The entire number encoded on the magnetic strip needed by the building is printed in clear text on the front of the card (I watched them type the number into the door security system). All one needs is a very high resolution picture of someone who is wearing their card front-away-from-body and you could make a copy of their card.

  2. Re:Building is a single computing entity... by Carnildo · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Once they finish rebuilding the campus with this sort of building, they'll have one.

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  3. Dangerous? by glpierce · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I saw the nearly-completed building a few months ago when visiting the campus. My immediate reaction: this can't be healthy. With that many wires and that many radio signals (RFID, wireless network, etc), I can't help but think that it will increase your risk of developing cancer. Normal offices are bad enough, but this place has significantly more in the air.

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  4. Am I the only one... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting
    .. who expects that the brutal hacks done to Gaia are going to be much better 'learning experiences' for everyone than the official software itself?

    Gotta wonder what kind of security they've got on her. If I had my face scanned everytime I entered a room, and had some stupid voice asking me questions when I just wanted to finish my assignment back when I was in school, the system would have been modified drastically during finals week.....

    Not that I would condone such now, of course. Probably get you labeled a terrorist and thrown under the jail.

  5. BFG Competition? by uujjj · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The web site for the opening lists one of the events as a BFG Competition. Apparently, they will be broadcasting the thing around the world. Also, they will record the competition for future viewings. Hmmm . . . only in computer science could they be proud.

  6. 1000 Words by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Anyone able to find a neat photo gallery on the site? I looked, but could only find some movies of the grand opening. The itty bitty pictures make the place look nice, but I'd love to see more details. Wonder what their sever room(s) look like...

  7. Re:I go here by garbletext · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Those odd, half-finished parts are what I was calling ugly. And it doesn't remind me at all of DCL. I have a few classes there next semester, so i'm going to have to learn to like it.

  8. Re:"Modern" buildings tend to not age well by cfoster611 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'll have class in there every day next fall, and, honestly, I find the place spectacular. I find the architecture is modern yet not gaudy. Most of the architectural metal is muted, and the exterior blends well with the older buildings, even if it dominates the small high school across the street.

    The place still has the most excellent smells of new computer/networking gear, and you can go around and sometimes see the MDF's still under construction.

    Its a fun place.

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  9. Salary by GrEp · · Score: 3, Interesting

    $80000000/$100000=800. Hmm...
    800 faculty years of almost anyone in the world, or one building. Good going UIUC.

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    1. Re:Salary by tsangc · · Score: 3, Interesting
      800 faculty years of almost anyone in the world, or one building. Good going UIUC


      I can't see how this comment was modded interesting.


      First, faculty and students need buildings to work and learn in. You can hire all the people in the world, but if they don't have a place to run their labs, teach classes etc in, what's the point?


      Second, having the best facilities in the world is a draw for leading researchers and students. You can't expect to attract the best with some beat up old building from 1970, can you? This is an investment in the staff and students as much as hiring more TA's or buying new lab equipment.

      Third, do you know much UIUC spends overall on their budget for professors salaries? We don't know if this is a fraction of their budget or half of it.


      Finally, $80 million is not a lot of money for a university building. It's about average.

  10. Re:"Modern" buildings tend to not age well by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Many rooms are designed to be reconfigured with movable partitions, flooring and fixtures

    Isn't this how most modern office buildings are built already? Hell, even most modern shopping malls can be reconfigured easily.

  11. Re:The Real Privacy Question by tricops · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Ahh, you don't need this kind of technology for oddities like that. On a few different occasions I've had a professor with a wireless mic make a trip down the hall like that while neglecting to turn it off. Fun (horrifying?) stuff.

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  12. Re:Sup with the site? by Zelxyb · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Surprisingly, this is basically the same thing you get when you walk up to an information display on the wall (except the website doesn't have the information specific to the room you're standing in front of).

    Everything actually looks really awesome right now. Too bad most of it isn't staying in the building after the weekend.

    Anyway, to provide you with some other cool associated things:
    web cam, VRML model of building. Enjoy.

    PS Though I have complaints, I'm leaving those to the other trolls.

  13. Re:If interaction means... by Goldfinger7400 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Though the university itself can only carry coca cola products, at the ACM office in Siebel they've got a "robotic" soda machine called Caffeine that will give you Mountain Dew or whatever else it is currently stocked with, and just bill a few cents to your account. There is even a website I think where you can view soda statistics (yes, mountain dew wins).

  14. Re:UIUC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I'll let you know before you read the rest of my post that I'm a current student at UIUC.

    I got into the PhD programs at Stanford, Berkeley, MIT, Carnegie-Mellon, and UIUC--and UIUC compares very well with the rest of these schools. The only thing UIUC lacks is the publicity to go with the quality of research that happens here. On the other hand, this is a good thing since the students here can concentrate more on research instead of just working very hard at appearing smart like some other schools promote.

    At UIUC, the professors are generally fairly young, which I view as a good thing. At the 'bigger' name schools you end up with a bunch of dinosaurs who may have contributed to the field in the past but are simply living off the legacy insteading doing new research. If you actually care about this, check out the UIUC research page at: http://www.cs.uiuc.edu/research/areas.html

    I have personally found the AI, Databases, and Theory groups to be very impressive and have had experience working with them.

    If you want an interesting comparison, check out MIT's new building.http://web.mit.edu/buildings/statacenter/ I took a tour of it, and the impression it gave me was, "Look at us, we're MIT! This building looks so crazy, we must be geniuses to work here!"

    UIUC has a much more honest and less flashy style, which I find rather refreshing.
    I do agree that most of the ubiquitous computing features of the building seem a little silly, but why not make your new computer science building a functional experiment in computer science itself?

  15. Only mountain dew on this campus... by Benley · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Yeah... except for THIS soda machine (which just so happens to be in the seibel center) The link points at the web server running inside the pop machine itself. The only photo I can find of the thing is here, with one of the guys who worked on it sitting in front of it. And a BeBox perched on top.

  16. Until recently... (like, last week) by raehl · · Score: 2, Interesting

    UIUC had the #1 paintball team in the country.

    Damned Boilermakers.

  17. Re:As a CS student in the siebel center right now. by reCURSE · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I watched Prof. Jeff Erickson swipe three times before the reader finally recognized him. The elevators fried for a few hours the other night too. It'll all be nice and pretty in a few months.

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