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The First-Ever Installfest in Egypt

MadFarmAnimalz writes "On the first of May, the Egyptian LUG had the first ever Linux Installfest (check out the photos and for Pete's sake mirror them!) at the Sawy Cultural Center in downtown Cairo. Turnout was absolutely incredible; the hall was maxed out at something between 500 and 1,000 persons for 7 solid hours (not bad considering our geurrilla marketing campaign can't have cost more than 7 or 8 dollars), and we were absolutely swamped!" Read on below for more details.

"The atmosphere was just unbelievable; people who had had linux installed realised the LUGgers were overwhelmed and stayed on helping other people with installs, we couldn't burn CDs fast enough, several thousand educational pamphlets were not enough by a wide margin. We were expecting maybe 150 or 200 people throughout the day, but we had already reached that number by 9:45 a.m. (15 minutes before opening!). To the best of our knowledge, the most successful LUG-driven event in the middle-east, certainly the biggest, and one hell of a day that we'll all remember. Note that we are now looking at the possibility of another Installfest during summer at the Bibliotecha Alexandrina and would welcome any extra resources. (A big thanks to MadFarmAnimalz' family who served the volunteers sandwiches carefully wrapped in copies of the GPL preamble and the deCSS code)"

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  1. We now need one ... by killerface · · Score: 1, Interesting

    We need a worldwide install fest tracked by local lugs... i'd set it up but im too lazy

    1. Re:We now need one ... by falkryn · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Good point about the Egyptian dictatorship. Mubarak and his cronies (as well as Sadat and Nasser) are certainly not representative of Islamic principles. But as can be seen in things like the arrests/assasinations of groups like the Ikhwan are indeed its opponents.

      Oh and in the odd (and admittedly remote) chance that the Egyptian fascist intellegencia read this and get the idea that linux could be subversive to them, I don't live in Egypt. This is a Canadian telling you to fuck off and die.

  2. Awesome job! Guerilla Marketing Campaign by quantumparadox · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Great job getting that many people out guys, thst's amazing. I'm sure you're completely wasted right now but a further description of your marketing campaign and why you think it was so effective would be a great help to LUG's around the world. Was there some cultural aspect that you used to help you out or are Egyptians just dying to get Linux installed?

    1. Re:Awesome job! Guerilla Marketing Campaign by MadFarmAnimalz · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Thanks quantumparadox. I am in fact doing a complete writeup, and yes we're still groggy (coffee isn't helping; need IV drip) and there's more pictures.

      We should have the whole thing ready for a slashback or something, including all the gory details of how IBM Egypt almost torpedoed us (believe it or not, they wanted the LUG initially to pay for the IBM volunteers' t-shirts and they wanted the LUG to pay to write IBM on the back of the shirts too... cue the "in soviet russia LUG sponsors IBM jokes.").

      --
      Blearf. Blearf, I say.
  3. Bring On The Stats by karmatic · · Score: 5, Interesting

    According to the Linux Counter, Egypt has 2262 registered machines (with 156 registered users), or 2.26 users for every million people that live there. With a really low turnover, and half the people being actually getting linux installed, they could easily have enough people to quadruple the counter stats. Perhaps the organizers should invite people to Register.

    With 3 more users, they could pass nepal.

  4. Re:marketing by Spy+Hunter · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Replying to myself; turns out navigating the site wasn't as hard as I expected; there's enough english to point the way. They posted their flyer in these places, and their text message in these places. They were very organized; their Wiki system of keeping track of where things were posted seems to have worked excellently. The success of this event should be a model for people planning other community events.

    --
    main(c,r){for(r=32;r;) printf(++c>31?c=!r--,"\n":c<r?" ":~c&r?" `":" #");}
  5. Re:Egyptian-style penguin : ) by MadFarmAnimalz · · Score: 3, Interesting

    We have Mostafa Hussein to thank for that, aka whirlpool. Med student and dynamic volunteer and resident linux graphics expert.

    None of us really believe he's a med student though; he can't possibly have the time. :)

    --
    Blearf. Blearf, I say.
  6. How to make this more efficient. by rice_burners_suck · · Score: 5, Interesting
    If the availability and speed of CD writers causes a problem at Installfests, then why not make up a distributed system for making these CDs? If you can get, say, 1000 Linux users to each make 2 copies of a Linux installation CD, and then mail those two CDs to the LUG ahead of time, then you'd have 2000 CDs ready to go.

    The only problem I can think of is verifying that what's on the CD isn't malicious code. Hmmmmm... That's a tough one. Maybe a better idea would be for Linux users around the world to each donate some money to a nonprofit organization created for the purpose of Linux Installfests. That nonprofit would then have thousands of copies of Linux CDs pressed each day, at a cost of almost nothing per CD. I can see how it would be in the best interest of all Linux distro makers, and all companies that use Linux as part of their strategy (e.g., IBM) to donate a few cents from each CD they sell to this organization. This organization would then routinely ship crates of CDs to LUGs around the world, for the purpose of installing on folks' computers, and giving them the CD as their welcome gift to the Linux community. If a nonprofit can't be started, then why not donate some of those CD duplication units that can make 10 CDs at once, or at least the funds to buy those things...

    By making this community grow as much as possible, we will all be doing a great thing. It is likely that companies will produce hardware drivers, application software, and other products for Linux. It is likely that by experimenting with Linux, a lot of people will become a lot smarter about computers, and the ratios of 1337 users to the idiot users (that Microsoft helped create with its talking paperclips) will be more favorable.

    Finally, some other folks mentioned network boots. Yes, I think this is a good idea. But still give folks a CD so they can reinstall if they hose their system.

    1. Re:How to make this more efficient. by mecanicaz · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Great idea, but actually the mentioned amount (2000 cd's) wasn't enough, at mid-day we were already starting to look for extra burners, and the great thing is that visitors with burners on their machines volunteered to help as well as help others with there installations.

    2. Re:How to make this more efficient. by mecanicaz · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Even if we end up with these 1800 after ditributing only 200, the amount of 1800 is easily distibutable here in Egypt with the amount of knowledge hunger and enthusiasm among people

  7. Re:Internet2-based mirror by karmatic · · Score: 2, Interesting

    My server (which I have easy access to if necessary) is on a GigE feed from the guys over at Level3. I have all the bandwidth I _need_ for "leet" warez.

    My point is that it's a shame I can't access the content that _is_ there because my ISP doesn't carry it, and I was wondering if there was any content really worth having that I was missing.

  8. Installed ? by noselasd · · Score: 2, Interesting

    So the question is , what did they install ?
    Gentoo, Debian ,Fedora SuSE ? Something else ?

  9. Arabic support by Stonent1 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Hows the Arabic support in Linux? Last I heard, virtually non-existant.

  10. Ftp install? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Set up an iso on an ftp server and install via ftp?
    just need boot floppy.
    Maybe some participants might be interested in trying FreeBSD?

  11. Speaking of Freedom... by poptones · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Has anyone read some of the (English language) forum comments? I find it interesting these featured quotes from people such as Ben Franklin. My knowledge of politics is limited to conflicting ideals espoused by various agenda laden news organizations, so I honestly don't know: are there no mideastern/Egyptian icons of Liberty? Or are "American ideals" truly as strong internationally (or at least in Egypt) as american rhetoric would have us believe?

  12. software to handle installfests by jasontheking · · Score: 5, Interesting
    I've run three installfests for the past three years, and after the second time I decided to write some software to handle things more easily. (I must admit though, I've only had about 50 people turn up at the events I'm running, I guess I suck at marketing). Its at https://sourceforge.net/projects/installfest/
    You're going to have to pull it out of cvs , I haven't bothered doing any official releases or anything yet , its just a bunch of php scripts.



    It lets you gather the number of each distro , type of CPU , harware type (desktop , laptop, etc) that people want linux installed and configured for, as well as the number of people turning up to help who can handle it. And you get a nice little graph showing you how many people sign up each day before the event.



    There's another installfest project on sourceforge here

  13. Doesn't this mean... by KinkyClown · · Score: 2, Interesting

    that Linux is hard to install? People need to go te a InstallFest to get it done? They are overwhelmed by the amount of people showing up! This is not good...

  14. Shariah and GPL by falkryn · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Interesting comment, as someone whose actually studied the shariah (though of course not gone nearly as deep as one may) and for whom Islamic studies was my mainstay before entering the IT world (I still consider it the most important thing out there, and paramount to my life, though I have to confess to dedicating an obscene amount of time to my current passion, after all it is my living). I myself have wondered about how close GPL-like thought can come into with traditional Islamic iqtisadi (roughly economic) thought. As you may konw many of the scholars (with some prominent exceptions) have rejected the concept of intellectual property, coupled with the fact that hoarding is considered a heinous sin. The idea of distributing source for the public benifit certainly seems in tune with the general Islamic ethos, though I don't know if I'd say that cancels out all closed models of software development as well (Allahu 'alam). I have given thought to the notion that Linux and other free systems is just what the Muslim nations could use right now to help bring back some of the intellectual heritage and scientific innovation that had been a hallmark in former times (not that it's dead by any means, just looks at Safawid and post Safawid metaphysics in Iran to disprove the idea that Islamic philosophy died with Ibn Rushd.) Certainly a system that Muslims can actively contribute to and make their own would be much better than just sending in checks to a closed business located in Redmond. wa salaam 'ala 'l-muhtadeen...

  15. Dollars? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting
    geurrilla marketing campaign can't have cost more than 7 or 8 dollars

    That's a lot! When I spent 2 weeks in Egypt (admitedly in '88) I averaged $6 US per day. That included hotels, train fares, food, tourist sites, water, 2 day trip on a felucca, souveniers, baksheesh, you name it. NYC last November (a city of around the same size) wasn't nearly so cheap.

  16. Re:When I Was In Cairo... by Milton+Waddams · · Score: 2, Interesting

    here in ireland there are no adds for linux or Mac. just some adds for IBM and Dell but these are aimed at the server market. tis a pity there isn't a drive to inform the average consumer about alternatives to Wintel in the Desktop market. it seems there's a real drive in promoting alternatives , especially linux, in the east and asia, why isn't there an effort in this regard in the west? i understand that in places like india and china where the IT boom is only starting, there is a bigger potential market for linux but i would still like to see a push in advertising for linux here.

  17. Re:Clothing by pe1chl · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The Man:Women ratio seems to be about typical for Linux installfests.
    Also note that most women on the pictures are sitting, waiting for their men to join them again. There is only one woman to be seen at a keyboard.

    It is the same all over the world :-)