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Who's Behind the Shower Curtain?

Roland Piquepaille writes "No, it's not Norman Bates. Instead, hundreds of millions of yellow, pink and white bacteria are hiding on your shower curtain. According to a study by San Diego and Colorado researchers, it should be enough to push you to turn the water off and to make you grab a towel. After analyzing the vinyl shower curtains from their own bathrooms, the scientists found '...about 80 percent of the organisms they found in the flaky scum were in the same genetic families as those known to infect wounds'. Sorry to leave you here, but I also have to go and buy another shower curtain, preferably a disposable one."

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  1. I call BS! by RobertB-DC · · Score: 5, Interesting

    About 80 percent of the organisms they found in the flaky scum were in the same genetic families as those known to infect wounds or cause problems for people with AIDS, cancer or other immune system disorders.

    What an absolute load of crap. That's like saying "about 80 percent of Germans come from the same country as Adolph Hitler."

    What's sorely missing from this article is any sense of journalism. I know that's a passe' concept. But when a "study" like this comes out, stating the obvious in "OMFG the sky is falling!" terms, you should follow the money.

    Who pays for "studies" like this? I predict if you follow the money, you'll find that this fine product is from the makers of Lysol and other fine household products.

    These would be the same people that supply "educational, informative" news bits to small-market stations that get run alongside the real news. I remember one in the mid-90s that described the horrors facing your family during the Thanksgiving holiday, and how you'd save their lives by using an antibiotic cleanser. Our old friend Lysol was prominently featured -- over and over -- but the company's likely sponsorship of the ad-in-news'-clothing was conveniently left out.

    Or maybe I'm just another paranoid Green.

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    1. Re:I call BS! by gbjbaanb · · Score: 5, Funny

      Adolph was Austrian... so any studies showing 80% of Germans coming from his country would be equally crap as this one was :)

    2. Re:I call BS! by lindec · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Sensationalist? Perhaps. But the magnitude is probably correct. The abundance of bacteria and other microscopic life is amazing. The most abundant animal for example, the phylum Nematoda, can have millions in a single spoonful of soil. Odds are that most of the bacteria are from the same genetic family, since bateria are incredibly diverse and the classes and phylums contain many, many species. Hell, a cold sore is herpes simplex, which is in the same family as genital herpes.

    3. Re:I call BS! by jandrese · · Score: 5, Funny

      It's been said that Austria's two greatest achievements were to make Mozart an Austrian and Hitler a German.

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      I read the internet for the articles.
    4. Re:I call BS! by MacGarnicle · · Score: 5, Informative

      Mozart was Austrian. The famous joke usually invokes Beethoven who was German but composed in Vienna.

    5. Re:I call BS! by bug-eyed+monster · · Score: 5, Informative
      "While I agree that the story itself was sensationalized..."

      Actually, the story itself is pretty level-headed, it's the summary posted on Slashdot that is sensationalistic (I believe that's what you meant when you said "sensationalized" but I just want to make it very clear). The article says:

      "About 80 percent of the organisms they found in the flaky scum were in the same genetic families as those known to infect wounds or cause problems for people with AIDS, cancer or other immune system disorders."


      But the submitter cut the sentence when quoting, removing the qualification and making it look like the organisms found affect everybody and not just a specific group of people.

      Another quote to show the article is quite reasonable:

      "Kelly and Pace emphasized that the bacteria they found on their shower curtains normally don't cause problems for humans. "We don't want to freak people out, because we're really only talking about immune-compromised people," Kelley said"


      The good thing is, now when someone is diagnosed with a deficiency in their immune system, they can be advised to use glass shower doors.
    6. Re:I call BS! by Walt+Dismal · · Score: 5, Funny

      He seems to be decomposing in Vienna, at this point. Er, not that that's relevant.

  2. Hm... by aznxk3vi17 · · Score: 5, Funny

    I always wondered if that funky, non-natural, slimy, stuff-that-didn't-come-from-me, slippery, smelly, discolored stuff on my shower curtain wasn't good for me. Now I know!

  3. Kill them. by jrockway · · Score: 5, Informative

    I spray my shower curtain with bleach every week or so. That should kill our good bacteria friends...

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  4. Microscopic germs by oldmildog · · Score: 5, Funny

    Exactly the reason I don't shower.

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  5. Keep your shower Curtain clean by ralphb · · Score: 5, Informative

    We have a cloth shower curtain, and it goes in the laundry every week or so. They cost more, and washing is a hassle, but there's a lot less grunge to tolerate.

    Cleaning Instructions: How to clean a shower curtain to shine like new

  6. Time for some hardcore antibiotics by wafflemonger · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I sure that 80% of the bacteria in your intestines are from the same families of bacteria that infect wounds. But if you kill all of them off you are asking for some serious health problems.

  7. Tolerance by lcde · · Score: 5, Funny

    I've grown quite a tolerance by licking my curtain.

    hehe ick.

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  8. Don't panic, this is called life by Chairboy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    While this may be a factual study, I find myself more interested in the alarmist reactions people have to news like this.

    Life is not about walking from one hermetically sealed clean room to another, there's all sorts of things out there that we interact with on a daily basis. Every time you breath, you inhale pollen, dust mites, various chemical vapors, and all sorts of organic detritus.

    Every time you drink water, there's a certain quantity of dead organic material, traces of various excrements, and so on, even if your water is bottled.

    We do not live life as individual colonies of humanity, sailing through deserts of sterility, instead we walk through a cloud of sloughed off bacteria, viruses, and other debris, and it's O-K.

    Humankind has lived for millenia with these things, and for the most part, we've been O-K.

    People lived before pasteurization, people lived before water filtration, people even lived before MOUTHWASH! And they were all... O-K.

    The world we live in is much cleaner in terms of organic residue then ever before, and the legions of bacteria on your shower curtain have not spontaneously appeared out of the ether, so calm down, take a deep breath, and stop panicing.

    It's just a matter of time before someone figures out that there's a correlation between good health and some non-obvious combination of bacteria and organic waste. In the meantime, let Howard Hughes-style cleanliness craziness pass you by and just live your lives peacefully.

    Y'all are O-K.

  9. Mumbo-Jumbo by bobej1977 · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I'm reminded of the MythBusters episode where they leave toothbrushes in their bathroom for a month to look for fecal coloform bacteria and find it on every brush, inclusing a control brush they didn't touch the entire time in their kitchen.

    This kind of silliness has lead companies to create all manner of anti-bacterial wipes and soaps, and while they may ward off the occasional infection, more likely it is just watering down our immune systems so that when an infection does strike, our bodies are unprepared. To me, this is just another blip on the mass-media Paranoia-meter.

    I guess I'm pessimistic, but IMHO we are hell bent as a species on painting ourselves into a biological and ecological corner.

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  10. Oh boo-hoo by AC-x · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Humans are designed to survive much dirtier conditions then we live in now, that's what we have an immune system for.

    Infact one of the reasons why there's a lot more people suffering allergies these days could be that because we live in such clean conditions our immune system's got nothing better to do then go nuts over minor environmental contaminates.

  11. I'm sorry, but this article is absolute bullshit. by vapid+transit · · Score: 5, Insightful

    First off I'll state that I'm a microbiologist. Saying that two bacterium come from the same "genetic family" is totally meaningless. Take E. coli K12 and E. coli 0157:H7 for example. They're the same SPECIES. K12 is harmless while 0157 will give you bloody diarrhea and could potentially kill you. I hate reading crap like this. It helps ignorant people justify their decision to disinfect EVERYTHING, thus inhibiting childrens' development of robust immune systems.

  12. Re:Godwin's Law, no more replies. by GregChant · · Score: 5, Interesting

    From How to post about Nazis and get away with it:

    Godwin's Law is a natural law of Usenet named after Mike Godwin (godwin@E F F [edited].org) concerning Usenet "discussions". It reads, according to the Jargon File:

    As a Usenet discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one.

    It's a real thing.

  13. Re:I'm sorry, but this article is absolute bullshi by Tackhead · · Score: 5, Interesting
    > First off I'll state that I'm a microbiologist. Saying that two bacterium come from the same "genetic family" is totally meaningless. Take E. coli K12 and E. coli 0157:H7 for example. They're the same SPECIES. K12 is harmless while 0157 will give you bloody diarrhea and could potentially kill you.

    Bravo!

    While we're at it, I've always wanted to see a field guide to identifying common household microorganisms. For instance, what (sets of) critters are responsible for the "pink ones", "yellow ones", or "white ones"?

    Granted, there's no practical health value to knowing that, I've always been curious as to who's living with me. My curiosity was piqued by moving from one apartment to another, and noticing that where my "old" dish rack and shower used to tell me I was overdue for a full-blown bleaching by accumulating visible yellow stuff in the corner, my "new" dish rack tells me by displaying colonies of whatever the pink bugs were. "Hi! We've got a thick enough protective biofilm here that rinsing with water won't work! Nyaah nyaa-OMFG, IT'S THE SODIUM HYPOCHLAAAaauggh...."

    Another bug story - the single-pane windows in my first apartment used to (probably still do) harbor colonies of some green-black mold that would slowly drop spores onto the windows' venetian blinds during winter. Ugh. I hated cleaning those blinds (bleach, paper towels, up-close-and-personal) myself, but there was no way to convince the landlord to do proper remediation of the cracks in the paint around the windowsill, because the landlord didn't want a "mold" claim on the building's record. If it'd been a house, I'd have fixed it out of my own pocket and never breathed a word to the insurance company, but the work required was too extensive for me to DIY and the landlord didn't want to hear of it. Fucker.

    Anyways, whatever that mold was, it was badass. I first discovered it because some had dropped off the blinds and set up shop on the metal windowsill behind a pile of boxes that blocked my view of the windowsill for a whole winter. When I found it a few months later, the mold had etched marks into stainless steel. Not only was it badass mold, but weird mold. It ate metal (and presumably dust/skin flakes and other spores) all winter long, but it left the huge pile of yummy cellulose cardboard (the boxes) untouched.

  14. Re:Godwin's Law, no more replies. by Throtex · · Score: 5, Funny

    Throtex's corollary to Godwin's Law:

    Any time Godwin's Law is invoked, the discussion will shift focus to Godwin's Law itself.