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Zaurus SL-6000 Review

Bill Kendrick writes "BargainPDA has done a full review of Sharp's Zaurus SL-6000L Linux-based PDA, which was recently released to consumers in the US. There are six pages of review, lots of pretty photos, and comparisons with previous Zaurus models."

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  1. Re:The screen! by wHartHog(69) · · Score: 3, Informative

    So does the Toshiba 800/805. But of course, the Toshiba runs Windows Mobile 2003, and I suspect you won't be able to find one at your local retail outlet.

  2. Re:First postings.... by ItMustBeEsoteric · · Score: 4, Informative

    The answer would be: "Yes, yes you can." I've used my trusty old SL-5500 (with CF wi-fi) to ssh into my desktop many-a-time.

  3. Google Cache by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative
  4. Re:Did the full review include... by geekbox5 · · Score: 4, Informative

    I ran my SL-5500 as a web server for a few days just to test it. There is an apache distribution for it, with php included, but it does tend to run a little slow, probably due to the lack of physical ram on it.

  5. Pretty big review - heres the text of pages 1-4 by rpdillon · · Score: 5, Informative

    Review of Sharp Zaurus SL-6000

    Reviewed for bargainPDA by Ian Giblin.
    Thanks to offroadgeek from The Zaurus User Group for input and discussion.

    Overview and Introduction

    The new Zaurus SL-6000 from Sharp is a versatile, linux-based PDA incorporating an Intel XScale (PXA255) CPU at 400 MHz. In some respects it is a hybrid of the Zaurus SL-5600, which became available in the U.S. in April of 2003, and the SL-C750/760/860 which is only available as a special import and was reviewed here in September of 2003. The main enhancements to the SL-6000 are a better screen, some ruggedisation, built-in Wi-Fi and/or bluetooth, and a degree of expandability. There's also a USB host built into it using a Mini A connector on the bottom of the device. Oh, and a longer stylus.

    The device I'm reviewing here is the SL-6000L, which has only Wi-Fi. We spoke to Sharp's representative about the other models - specifically the SL-6000N (Bluetooth only) and the SL-6000W, which was billed as the combo product with both 802.11b Wireless and Bluetooth. The representative told us that the only version which will be made available to the general consumer is the 6000L Wi-Fi variant.

    If you put it into Google you can find the SL-6000W but you can't actually buy one yet (May 2004).

    The Sharp Zaurus SL-6000 and You

    You might wonder - what's the target market for this device? It is large, expensive and ruggedised. If you haven't already guessed, the answer is "Enterprise". Sharp collaborated with IBM on this project, but the only evidence on the consumer device is the link to IBM's page when you open the Opera web browser. A little nosing about on IBM's site yields some other interesting pages like this one on cross-developement. But I digress...

    An ongoing aspect of the Enterprise factor is RailDocs, a system "designed to enable users to efficiently design, build, and maintain the fixed transportation infrastructure of a railroad". Not for the average user, obviously, but it speaks volumes for the stability and versatility of the Zaurus product.

    It is something of a surprise that Sharp have made the SL-6000 available to the consumer market, particularly after a Sharp marketing representative originally told bargainPDA "Please keep in mind that this product is designed exclusively for the corporate market and will not be sold through the direct to consumer channel. It will be used by businesses for business applications.".

    Whether the Sharp Zaurus is right for you depends upon the type of role you see for it. The Zaurus is probably the best linux-based handheld computer available, and the software is almost the same across models. It may not be the best PDA, in fact most Zaurus users wouldn't even call it a PDA. Sharp themselves call the Zaurus a Personal Mobile Tool. If you decide to buy a Zaurus you can find one to fit your budget. The table below summarises the features of key members of the Sharp Zaurus range, plus a very rough indication of their current prices. Links will open the bargainPDA reviews where available.

    The C760 and C860 differ only in that the 860 has a Japanese/English dictionary on it, and it has a silver case rather than the white one on the 760. The C750 is like the C760, but has a smaller battery and less memory; reading the SL-C750 review will give you a very good idea of those three Zaurus "clamshell" devices. Some of the software section of this review is just an updated and edited version of the C750 software review.

    Anyone looking at the SL-6000 should consider the alternative of buying an imported SL-C860 or C760 plus an 802.11b wireless card. This would give you the same functionality as the SL-6000L model reviewed here (plus an extra 64MB of internal flash memory), but you may have to risk some major inconvenience if the C model Zaurus breaks down - even when you buy through high-end channels such as Dynamism where the C860 costs $849, or ShirtPocket where it is 565. As well as the currency conversion you're doing in your hea

  6. Re:Free Zaurus by sirReal.83. · · Score: 4, Informative

    Yes. the Debian Zaurus Project is headed by Debian Developer Matt Zimmerman. From what I know, he pretty much just had to make a custom kernel and build a ROM image, as Debian officially supports the ARM architecture. No massive recompiling necessary. Just hijack someone's WiFi connection and apt-get whatever you want ;D

  7. The rest - parts 5 and 6 text by rpdillon · · Score: 5, Informative

    OS and Basic Screen Navigation

    At the top level, this looks like any PDA OS. The underlying Operating System is OpenPDA from Metrowerks (a company owned by Motorola). The GUI is Qtopia from Trolltech. This is a very well established system and has a good user and developer base. It also benefits from a certain amount of cross-platform portability, meaning that software can easily be translated from other systems to this one.

    The main functionality is organised into four Home Pages or "Tabs": Applications, Java, Settings and Files. The Java Tab seems completely pointless, and I was glad to find that it disappears if you reset the flash memory as I have done several times while testing the device (if you want it back, you can reinstall from a package on the CD). I won't bore you with describing the three Java "applications " on the SL-6000. Their only worthy feature is that Java apps run in resizable and movable windows, which is a big deal when you have this much screen real estate. One day all windows will be movable and resizable (imagine that!).

    You can add your own Home tabs, including a custom icon from a choice of what looks like hundreds. You cannot edit the system tabs. The pictures below show the four default Home Tabs; clicking on each one will open a new window in your browser showing the actual screenshot. All these screen shots are in portrait mode, but I only did this so they'd fit the review page better. They work just as well with the screen rotated 90 degrees.

    You can change the theme of the interface easily using the Appearance tool in the Settings Home Page; the differences are significant but not Earth-shattering. You can also set a graphical backdrop to the Home Tabs (other than the File Manager). This doesn't seem to slow the interface down, and it has the potential to look great on this display.

    Zoom Zoom

    One feature of the SL-6000 which affects many applications is the "zoom" capability. Using the Qtopia menu items (ZoomIn and ZoomOut you can zoom in and out in most application displays. What this really means is scaling the font and usually some other window furniture (e.g. column markers in a spreadsheet). It is very effective, and only limited by the font you are using. I made an animation of this when I reviewed the C750 last year - click here to see it.

    Help System

    The Qtopia GUI includes a customised help system which offers help on just about anything with an icon. It looks like a basic web browser and would be very useful to someone just starting out with the PDA. Once you've skimmed the manual I doubt it would be much help, but it does provide a good introduction.

    (back to contents)

    Personal Information Management (PIM) Tools

    PIM Applications: Address Book, Calendar, ToDo List.

    The Address book is pretty standard - adding, deleting and editing entries is easy. You can choose which fields appear on the list and their order, as well as the overall sort order. The display uses colour very well.

    Contacts can be beamed back and forth between the Zaurus and any other IR-capable PDA easily, although only one at a time from what I could tell, using .vcf files. I was hoping that I'd be able to hold the Zaurus near a telephone and have it tone-dial a number for me, but it can't do that.

    The Calendar allows a day, week, month and year view and you can set up reminders, repeating events, and so on. In the month view you can have a text format (which soon gets crowded) or graphical, which uses colour coded stripes to show events. This works well. Having used the application for some time on my 5600, I have found a few things which are annoying. For example, setting an appointment to repeat daily results in an entry in the calendar for every day forever. It would be so much nicer if it just updated each day to indicate the next scheduled event.

    The ToDo list, like the Calendar and Adress book, is adequate. It syncs with Outlook or Qtopia Desktop and is fairly useful f

  8. Re:The screen! by G27+Radio · · Score: 5, Informative

    The ASCII code for backspace is 8 which is equivalent of control-H. ^H is shorthand for control-H. Back in the ole BBS days if you didn't have your terminal settings properly configured you'd see ^H instead of backspace.

    Some systems would let you intentionally insert backspace characters into your posts. At 300bps you would actually see the word Lindows, then the cursor would move back four spaces in it would recomplete the word as Linspire.

  9. Re:"Bargain"PDA by i621148 · · Score: 2, Informative

    i just bought one from amazon last week and i am already really impressed.
    just having the internal wi-fi, mic and speaker were enough for me to upgrade
    also now that the cf slot is free you can insert a sprint connection card which is supported with an ipk dialer
    if anyone wants my old sl-5500, software and accessories: i am selling it on ebay
    sl-5500 @ ebay

  10. USB host mode - Add hard drives, other USB devices by Spoing · · Score: 4, Informative
    Most PDAs -- including (all?) previous ones from Sharp -- were USB slave devices. You could connect the PDA to a computer, and that computer could use the PDA, but you could not connect the PDA to a USB device and have the PDA use that device.

    The SL-600 changes that. In theory, you should now be able to connect any USB device that Linux supports to the SL-6000 and use it. So far, unfortunately, I've heard no sucess doing this yet...though the hardware is there.

    Anyone have sucess using random devices with the Zaurus?

    I'd expect that the following should work without much trouble;

    USB splitter

    Keyboard

    disk drives (including flash)

    Some may require software tweaks or added support as the Zaurus is intentionally a minimalist device.

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  11. Where to buy Linux PDAs? by wehe · · Score: 3, Informative

    The survey from BargainPDA about shops, which offer SHARP Linux PDAs seems not to be fully complete. Here is an international distributor survey for PDAs pre-equipped with Linux. BTW: If you are looking for a pre-installed Linux laptop or notebook you may find distributors there, too.

  12. Re:Lack of decent up to date software. by bender647 · · Score: 2, Informative

    I agree the PIM apps are not good on my SL-5600. None of the stock ROM apps are very good. But the other apps are indeed very useful -- walking around the house with Gaim running in your shirt pocket is pretty cool. VNC, ssh, X, Opera (via wireless card). VideoLAN and esd, mplayer. Kismet+nmap. Just a handful of apps you can run...

  13. Re:Free Zaurus by UnknownQ · · Score: 3, Informative

    I've had great success with pdaXrom. It appears to run X and all, but it has a cut down GUI and is generally made nicer for hand helds.

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  14. MobileTechNews lives by donovangn · · Score: 3, Informative

    There's a living review at Mobile Tech News.

    And don't forget Sharp's site.

  15. Re:$699 and NO GAMES ?! by LilMikey · · Score: 2, Informative

    Yes, there are ports for almost all current emulators (MAME, NES, SNES, Gen, GB, etc) to the Zaurus.

    Your best source of info is the forums on Zaurus User Group.

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  16. Re:The Chart is a little misleading. by LilMikey · · Score: 2, Informative

    Some people are reporting getting PXA255s through Amazon and a couple from HSN. There's also a kernel patch that disables the PXA250 step-down apparently without drawbacks.

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  17. Re:"Bargain"PDA by k4rm4_p0l7c3 · · Score: 2, Informative

    I just got a brand-new SL-5500 for 180$ US off of eBay. I'd call that a bargain..

  18. Re:My favorite thing about my Zaurus... by k4rm4_p0l7c3 · · Score: 2, Informative

    I've got a Zaurus sl-5500 now and I wish I could say the same thing about the Empeg. I've got one, love it to death, but because of the closed nature of it's code (the GUI, music player and other parts i think) the community is fading out as the product does.. (it was EOL'd maybe 2 yrs ago)

    Sharp has been pretty crappy about their Zaurus support. THe 6000 is out here stateside, but you have to get the cool wide-aspect units from overseas. And those are expensive. my 5500 was dirt cheap, but the thing won't even sync with Linux out of the box. you must provide everything on that end yourself configuration wise, and usbnet isn
    't the most reliable (2.6.3, 2.6.5 and 2.6.6 all act diff, of course, no Changelogs..) Sharp is really pathetic, there's no way to sync if you flash your Zaurus to the latest version of its ROM. it's been that way for a year. what a bunch of project-abandoning assholes..

    and when you realize the Sharp ROM sucks and you load up openzaurus you find that older vers have some problems with flash media through a suspend, and newer versions have trouble keeping eth0 alive in the cradle. hotplug oopses and other little details, fun fun fun

    it's a great tool and toy, i just have to wait for usbnet in 2.6.* to stop being a moving target. and i realize i will get a lot of use out of it in the end. it looks entirely possible to use gnokii to have it talk to my Nokia through IRDA to modem into work. I'll be able to do remote support when on-call and not have to even locate a hotspot.

    openzaurus (now, really, OpenEmbedded) is improving... i'll give it time. i guess its more fun to hack and tweak an open-style PDA than deal with the limitations of a closed-up one.

  19. Re:Telnet to by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    I call BULLSHIT!

  20. Re:Free Zaurus by mlauer · · Score: 3, Informative

    "get their act together"... this sounds pretty funny, when you are a project with hundreds of users but only 4 active and overworked developers :(

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  21. Re:I do not agree. by pantherace · · Score: 2, Informative
    I thought about an Agenda: But even worse than the palms of the day was the expandability or rather the lack of it. No extra space could be made other than the 10MB cramfs partition (more like 30MB in 6MB for most images) Not enough space to store things on.

    Hardware wise, it was between the palms and the CE devices, and was priced at $250 with a 66MHz MIPS processor when the lowest prices on CE devices was around $400. Not to mention, the battery life kicked ass. A week (honestly) on 2 AA batteries, and it was fast for a PDA.

    It was a good little platform. It's still available at $99 see http://www.softfield.com/vr3.html. Unfortunately the only accessory is a 56K modem.

  22. Re:What is the codename of the SL-6000? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    cat /proc/cpuinfo
    Processor : Intel XScale-PXA255 rev 6 (v5l)
    BogoMIPS : 397.31
    Features : swp half thumb fastmult edsp
    CPU implementor : 0x69
    CPU architecture: 5TE
    CPU variant : 0x0
    CPU part : 0x2d0
    CPU revision : 6
    Cache type : undefined 5
    Cache clean : undefined 5
    Cache lockdown : undefined 5
    Cache unified : harvard
    I size : 16384
    I assoc : 16
    I line length : 32
    I sets : 32
    D size : 16384
    D assoc : 16
    D line length : 32
    D sets : 32

    Hardware : SHARP Tosa
    Revision : 0000
    Serial : 0000000000000000

  23. Re:Lack of decent up to date software. by proxima · · Score: 4, Informative

    Just don't buy it if you're looking for an organiser, you'll be bitterly disappointed.

    As the proud owner of a now obsolete Handspring Visor and having just purchased a "new" Zaurus 5500 on Ebay, I basically agree.

    Everything on a Palm is instant. It may not have every feature you want, and until recently, the screens had pretty poor resolution (Sony is the exception). However, the applications worked well, and had reasonable interfaces so they could be used quickly.

    I quickly abandoned the Sharp ROM for the Zaurus in favor of OpenZaurus, but I've certainly had my frustrations with bugs and missing features. Some small things, like the ability for the application buttons to turn on the device (like a Palm), and some larger things, like having it not reboot properly the second time if you haven't suspended in between (though there is an unofficial fix).

    Why am I rebooting in the first place? Because of the Zaurus' greatest aspect - it's basically a fully-functional Linux system. As such, one can tweak, test, and otherwise poke around (sometimes needing a reboot if something got messed up or you're testing something). Some Zaurus applications I've found I've had no good free Palm equivalent. Zee Cookbook is a great, if somewhat slow (when editing), way to keep a database of recipes on hand. QTJournal is a great way to take notes that are categorized by date and subject. The ability to run just about any console-based Linux software (even the statistical software R) makes it very useful as a sysadmin tool. With a small, cheap wireless card from Ebay, it is often more convenient than lugging around a laptop.

    Some of the things I've wanted to use my Zaurus for before I bought it work, and some don't (yet). I got xmms running and it plays OGG files well (but the included mediaplayer with openzaurus doesn't, and the Sharp ROM's media player has a horrendous interface). I can control the Zaurus remotely via ssh (VERY handy for exploring with a real keyboard) and VNC (with the framebuffer vnc package). However, the latter doesn't offer even basic security (and I haven't gotten iptables to work), so I'm reluctant to use it often, mostly out of principle.

    I got the xvnc server running, but the vncviewer client to view it simply will not connect to it, or any other vnc server. I've seen a few other reports of this behavior but no fix, and most people seem to have no problem. This combo is supposed to allow the use of any X11 application on the Zaurus itself, and more importantly for me, remote X applications (so I can control xmms on my music server with a wireless connection - the ultimate remote). If anyone has a suggestion about this, I'd be happy to hear it.

    My other problem is mail - mailit (included with OpenZaurus) is simplistic, but more importantly doesn't work for one of my domains (not sure why this is). I can telnet manually to port 110 and execute pop commands fine, but this mail client barks about an unknown response from the server. QTmail doesn't work either - it gives host not found or something like that.

    For the price I paid, I get far more functionality than I ever did from a Visor, but the Zaurus definitely has its frustrations. The PIM apps are nothing much to speak of, they function, but are slower than their Palm equivalents (this, again is on OpenZaurus). My greatest desire - the ability to have tree-view tasks, is not implemented on either my Handspring or any version of "todo" on the Zaurus that I've used.

    So it's not perfect, but you can still pry it from my cold, dead hands.

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  24. Re:The screen! by homeobocks · · Score: 0, Informative

    Actually, the ^H protocol is used because really old UNIX machines didn't have a backspace key, so erasing one character behind the cursor was ^H (Ctrl + H). It is used today not as a design flaw, but as a way of saying, for example, "I will not work with these fools^H^H^H^H^Hgentlemen" as a way of calling these gentlemen fools, then "correcting" oneself (while leaving it obvious that the writer thinks that the gentlemen are fools).

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  25. Drops Insignia Jeode Java VM in favor of IBM J9 VM by MCRocker · · Score: 3, Informative

    One place that you can see the IBM influence is that the SL-6000 dropped the Insignia Jeode Java Virtual Machine that was used in the 5000 series and used the IBM J9 VM.

    Unfortunately, both are J2ME Personal Profile VM's, so most java programs have to be ported to work on them. It's too bad that SUN laid down the law and told SavaJe and others that handheld devices are only allowed to run J2ME and not J2SE, even if SavaJe did manage to port it and make it work. So, no applets in your web browser :(

    Another Java issue is that you can't simply tap on a jar file and expect it to run. Instead, you have to jump through all sorts of hoops to create a special installation package just for the Zaurus. This makes it difficult to use PersonalJava applications that were designed to work on any platform without doing some re-packaging. Although I understand the impetus to use the linux-ish packaging system they use for linux based applictions, it's disappointing that they didn't use something like JNLP for PersonalJava applications.

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  26. Re:"Bargain"PDA by tangledweb · · Score: 2, Informative

    I think I spent about $700 when I imported my Zaurus SL-C750 and about $1000 by the time I bought memory cards, a case, a wireless card and a VGA-out card.

    Sure I could have bought a cheap laptop for the same money with all these features and a better screen and keyboard, but I wanted a good PDA, not a bad laptop. I also have a laptop for other tasks.

    You cannot really write code on a PDA, but you can carry it with you everywhere and use wireless and ssh to do an urgent bug fix. I only take my laptop somewhere if I am planning to do work.

    Of course, six months after buying it, I got a telecommuting job and now rarely leave the house so don't really need a PDA let alone a $1000 PDA.

    I don't think any of the Zaurus series are trying to compete with Palm Zires. They do not claim to be a low end "bargain" PDA. They are a very flexible, high end PDA.

    if you only want calendar, address book and PIM functions and don't intend to take advantage of the opportunity to run Linux software on them, they are not even that good a PDA. Palms have better built in software, but you will not be able to impress your nerd buddies by running a complete LAMP stack on one.

    PS. I still prefer the clamshell form factor of the Japanese models. I cannot see why they are not sold elsewhere, but at least the english speaking world finally gets a 640x480 model. YOu can get the Japanese ones at Conics and Dynamism.

  27. tree-view to-do software by xeno · · Score: 2, Informative

    Yeah, gotta agree with your appraisal -- the advanced functions and networkability is great, but the basic pim features are weak. The basic address book is crap, and after a couple of months of fiddling I still can't get TKCAddress to import anything at all. But I've got the to-do list problem licked. Until 6 months ago, I stuck with my palm-based Handera 330 for one main reason: Brainforest, an excellent hierarchical tree manager that you could configure for use as a multilevel to-do list (1/x complete), project manager (x% complete), etc etc.

    After looking long and hard, I found StageOne on the Z to be everything that Brianforest was, and more. In addition to a really nice UI, it includes nice features for use as a contact manager (time/date marked items), html import/export -- great for brainstorming the outline of a document, then brining it into a word processor for actual writing, and the list goes on. Yeah, it's payware but I've gotten an order of magnitude more value from my $12. (Std disclaimer - I have nothing to do with the author of Stageone, blah blah...)

    It seems much nicer than the few other options I've tried on the Z. Layout is great, screen resizing works, and it's quite stable. My only gripe is lack of keyboard shortcuts for new-item and grab&move-item functions. Gotta keep grabbing the stylus between each item. (If the author reads this, I suggest using similar hierarchy management keys as MSWord: shift+up/dnarrow to grab/move; shift+rt/lfarrow to pro/demote; return for new line, etc.)

    Jon

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