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GPS for GBA

Grey Ninja writes "I just came across a preview for a new gadget that's going to be demoed at E3, which is a GPS and map attachment for your GBA. It should be mentioned that you can pre-order now and get $50 off. " I can't imagine very many useful applications for this, but it sure is nifty.

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  1. GPS for the Parent by mfh · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It's 11pm, do you know where your kids are?
    Well... now you do!

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    1. Re:GPS for the Parent by darien · · Score: 3, Funny

      Dude, it's GPS. Now they know where they are.

    2. Re:GPS for the Parent by Dun+Malg · · Score: 4, Informative
      It's 11pm, do you know where your kids are? Well... now you do!

      Global Positioning, not Tracking. GPS units are entirely passive. The only person who knows where a given GPS is located is the person holding the GPS. Unless you're going to also fit the children with a cellular telemetry rig or something, only the kids will know where they are.

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  2. Ehe by tigress · · Score: 2, Funny

    Just wait for Nintendo Club Airlines to start offering cheap flights to exotic places, to find your rare Pokémons at. =)

  3. you can't? by garcia · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I know plenty of people that use a handheld and a GPS. Consolidating the number of devices I have to hold when geocaching would be a great thing... I currently have the GPS, a digital camera, and a Sidekick. I sometimes have to bring along other things like a headlamp, etc.

    If I could have a reliable GPS unit that was attached to my PDA and it still functioned as well as a handheld one I would love it.

    1. Re:you can't? by tigress · · Score: 3, Funny

      Geocaching - Gotta find'em all!

    2. Re:you can't? by Seumas · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Except that the GBA's GPS product is $250! It's a neat idea, but for that money I'll just go buy a dedicated GPS unit. It'll probably outlast my GBA and there will come a time when I won't care to tote my GBA around and play games on it anymore - whereas my GPS unit would probably have a constant place on my hip.

    3. Re:you can't? by thirteenVA · · Score: 4, Funny

      Finally!!! Link can find his way out of the level 8 dungeon on legend of zelda!!!

    4. Re:you can't? by metamatic · · Score: 3, Insightful

      If I could have a reliable GPS unit that was attached to my PDA and it still functioned as well as a handheld one I would love it.

      So buy a Garmin iQue.

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  4. Why is the GBA the center of portable gaming? by brxndxn · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Nintendo really does have a monopoly on portable gaming. The GBA is 1/10 as powerful as most handheld PDAs, the screen is hard to see (even on the newer SP), and yet they come out with a GPS attachment for it that will only work for the GBA. Plus, I can't see entering address information with five buttons being very viable.

    Though GPS on a GBA is somewhat nifty, I think that a normal compactflash (or other media style) of GPS unit for a PDA would be more useful.

    Perhaps Nintendo can turn global navigation into a 2d mario-style game. Then, I could break the road blocks in my way by jumping up at them.

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    1. Re:Why is the GBA the center of portable gaming? by ndnet · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Why? A few reasons...

      1) Technical and usability superiority over all direct competitors.
      Face it - no other portable game system has been able to go toe-to-toe with the game boy and win. The series has good design, a large library, and no 'major' design flaws (the screen on GBA was the closest, and it wasn't bad enough - compared with Game Gear (eat through 6 AA batteries in an hour or so) or Neo Geo Pocket (suprisingly poor screen, hooks up to a dead game system, no games available.)

      2) Marketing
      Nintendo knows the portable game market. They know what game to push for, which ones will flop, how not to frustrate gamers, where the money is. They have a huge library that they keep expanding - not just getting new games made, but getting them on salesfloors and in people's hands.

      3) Price
      Those gaming PDAs are really nice, and I'd kill for one. But, unlike a GBA SP, which is $100 (unless you're savvy, in which case it's $80), the Zodiac, etc. are very expensive ($200+) and most parents don't want to spend that much on features that won't be used. And regular PDAs? Pshaw! They don't have the sound hardware for it - it's harder than just playing an MP3.

      Notice that while the GBA has huge numbers of potential competitors, none of them can compete. I imagine that if Nintendo were to collaspe, you'd see five different systems in the portable gaming market within a year.

    2. Re:Why is the GBA the center of portable gaming? by I+confirm+I'm+not+a · · Score: 2, Informative

      Why is Nintendo so entrenched in portable gaming? Long-term involvment. Just yesterday I was busy with all the home's computers, so my girlfriend dug out some old (1983!) Nintendo "game and watches" I have. They still work, they're still fun.

      I agree that GPS on the GBA seems odd, though, but I'd guess the target market is more youthful - the kind of market that (like my niece!) loves Barbie Walkie-Talkies, and can accept the imitations.

      Perhaps Nintendo can turn global navigation into a 2d mario-style game. Then, I could break the road blocks in my way by jumping up at them.

      I'm sold! Reminds me of a marathon Sonic-the-Hedgehog-and-beer session at college, and the journey to the pub afterwards: took me the entire journey to realise my "jump button" wasn't working...!

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    3. Re:Why is the GBA the center of portable gaming? by PhoenixFlare · · Score: 2, Insightful

      However, where mobile gaming is concern, I think GBA is quite behind other players -

      Not to try and actively bash you here, but as far as general market data and public opinion appears, you are in a microscopic minority.

      By way of an example or two, the hardware sales for the GBA and GBA SP combined are outstripping even the PS2 in both the US and Japan.

      Contrary to what you may think by browsing some of the bigger gaming message boards, many people play the system/games they do because it's FUN, not because it has the most neato whiz-bang technical specs.

      N-Gage, for example, although criticised, is actually a better platform for mobile gaming, with possibilities like bluetooth gaming and over-the-air gaming.

      If you overlook all the other glaring, horrible flaws it has, maybe. Nokia is supposedly going to/has redesigned the thing, but at this point there's a mountain of negative publicity and public opinion to overcome.

      And even then, simply having wireless capabilities does not make it a better platform - I understand that Nintendo will soon be releasing ( in the US ) a 2.4 Ghz wireless adapter, packaged with the Pokemon Fire Red and Leaf Green remakes.

    4. Re:Why is the GBA the center of portable gaming? by Lemmy+Caution · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Um, you're being a bit of a defensive fanboy, because you aren't quite getting what mobile gaming is all about. It has nothing to do with the GBA or Nintedno.

      It's not portable gaming - the GBA is current undisputed heavyweight, and the next wave will be either the DS or the PSP, no question - but rather it's about pervasive, connected gaming. In that field, things like the GO Game in the US are a lot closer to what we're talking about. Mobile gaming is mostly much bigger in Japan and is entirely cell-phone based, usually with an older crowd than the GBA scene. Check out Mogi as another interesting example.

      Usually these are games on java-enabled phones. Nokia was really in a position to succeed here but they've made the error of going for the GBA market, as well as making egregious design errors in the first model. If they could wed the graphic power of the game-platform half of the N-Gage to the type of gaming represented by Mogi, they'd be in business.

  5. Real life pacman... by moxruby · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I'm sure this could be incorporated into the real-life pacman played on the streets of new york...

    Yet another thing to lose when the tough guys come rolling...

  6. Great by Eudial · · Score: 2, Funny

    Jay! Now i can know where i am without looking up from my games!

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  7. Handy for travellers... by Fex303 · · Score: 4, Interesting
    I can't imagine very many useful applications for this, but it sure is nifty.

    I can think of market that this might really appeal to... Backpackers and other travellers. Lots of gamers buy a GBA when travelling for a long time (something to do on the plane, etc). If they could use it when they get to their destination to help find their way around then I guess a fair number of nerdy backpackers would pay for one.

    I know I would have killed for one of these when I was in London a little while ago. I kept getting lost at four in the morning in some maze of lanes near Soho, with my guidebook sitting on the couch where I was staying. A GBA is light and easy to carry/store, I'd rather haul that around than my Lonely Planet guide.

    It seems like there's some sort of internal memory in the unit, in which case it should be able to simply download new maps (via USB maybe?). This would rock if you were travelling through Europe and staying in lots of large towns, for example. Just grab the next map at an internet café and you're set.

    This is to say nothing of the possibilities with regards to GPS gaming. I can think of a bunch, especially if the games can be downloaded and localised. Among the more annoying/money making: Advertisers could have you unlock extra features of a game (secret Pokemon, etc) when you enter one of their stores...

    1. Re:Handy for travellers... by Technician · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Backpackers and other travellers

      Why would a backpacker want to deal with water damage and fragile connections? For about the same price, get a handheld map GPS that is waterproof and floats. I use a handheld GPS. If I want to connect it to a laptop or handheld, I can connect the cable, but a GPS that does not work when your gameboy dies doesn't seem very useful. The ability to interconnect is nice. Leaving some weight home and still having a useful tool is even better.

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    2. Re:Handy for travellers... by Tenebrious1 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Backpackers and other travellers

      Why would a backpacker want to deal with water damage and fragile connections? For about the same price, get a handheld map GPS that is waterproof and floats. I use a handheld GPS.


      LOL... the parent's use of the word "backpacker" is different from what we who actually get into the backcountry and away from civilization. We call those with backpacks "travelers" and those with suitcases "tourists". Well, whatever you call them, it's highly unlikey they will need something waterproof; a ziplock baggie will keep the GBA dry if they have to wander the streets while it's raining. With some extra air in the baggie, it'll even float; just in case you drop the thing overboard while taking a boat down the Seine...

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  8. Translation: by cperciva · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Grey Ninja writes " I just came across a preview for a new gadget that's going to be demoed at E3, which is a GPS and map attachment for your GBA.
    Grey Ninja writes "I work for a company which is trying to find suckers willing to buy our latest toy.
    It should be mentioned that you can pre-order now and get $50 off."
    If you pre-order now, you'll get $50 off. If you wait until after the release, the price will drop by $100 when we realize that this is useless junk which nobody wants to buy."
    I can't imagine very many useful applications for this, but it sure is nifty.
    Sounds like junk to me, but they paid for the advertising spot.
    1. Re:Translation: by Grey+Ninja · · Score: 2, Informative

      I'm flattered actually, that you would think that I am a real developer, or capable of building such a device.

      The truth of the matter is that I just came across the gadget from gcadvanced.com, and I thought it would be cool to mention it to Slashdot.

      I have a rather extensive knowledge of the GBA hardware, as I homebrew some stuff on the console. It just kind of goes with the territory. I don't have anything to really show for it though, as all my projects are still works in progress. The truth of the matter is that I am still merely a 3rd year Computer Science major, and not really capable of a whole lot yet.

  9. as useful as... by tverbeek · · Score: 2, Insightful
    I can't imagine very many useful applications for this, but it sure is nifty.

    It's about as useful as... any basic handheld GPS unit. I don't have much use for one myself, but a fair number of people seem to.

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  10. Re:Applications by darien · · Score: 5, Informative

    Dude, do you know how GPS works? A GPS unit on the ground listens to the signals from a couple of different GPS satellites and uses the information in those signals to triangulate its own position relative to the satellites (that's a very simplified explanation, but that's basically how it works). The satellites don't "find" you or "tell you where you are." They just beam messages down to the surface. They have no idea where, or by whom, those messages are being received.

  11. no applications need apply by moviepig.com · · Score: 2, Interesting
    I can't imagine very many useful applications for this...

    For years, I've driven with a triple-A card and a statewide mapbook on hand. I've seldom actually used either, but having them affords me a certain (justified or not) peace of mind in plunging into new automotive adventures.

    GPS/maps increase that same sort of assurance, and this gizmo seems to significantly commoditize the technology. I suspect that lack of a specific application won't matter.

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  12. Re:Applications by toesate · · Score: 4, Insightful
    If the satellite can find them and tell them where they are, it can sure as hell tell *you* where they are!

    Maybe, maybe not. There are a huge set of assumptions if it can.

    One of the key challenge for the location based services (via mobile phone and/or gps) is the tedious management of access groups and permissions.

    It has to do with privacy issues essentially.

    A simple scenerio is - the owner of their location information have the full ownership on how they want their location information be shared, and with who.

    However, like many other services, location based services, for example, tracking, is usually done with a third party involved - acting like a proxy agent, and as such must have certain permission set from the owner of the location information.

    To make things more challenging, we can add another role, by having a guardian over the owner of the location information.

    And the quick question now is - who owns the location information? The owner of the location information or the guardian of the owner? There are no easy answers.

    Anyway - nowadays, knowing where the kids are is a _willing_ mobile phone call away.

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  13. Pokemon world just got alot bigger by Fullmetal+Edward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Theres already alot of evidence that Pokemon regions are based on real places, with the wireless adapter you can goto see the 7th movie and it'll give you a special ticket toaccess the last pokemon in the pokedex not avaible any other way.

    It wouldn't surprize me for them to use the GPS (if they also do it with the DS) so you can wander from tokyo and each area will have different pokemon. It could even make the area around you and turn it into a map (think diablo 2 style but with real stuff). Hell they could have it so as you move your character moves.

    Very unlikely but it'd be a cool idea and might incourage a bit of tourism in Japan.

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  14. It's about time by highwindarea · · Score: 5, Funny

    Every body I know has been saying "Gameboys are great, but I'm not buying one until it has a GPS"

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  15. Useful by beaverfever · · Score: 2, Insightful

    So far the majority of comments seem to be negative and describe the unit as junk, but despite my having no interest in owning any gameboy unit, this combo inrigues me - a hand-held GPS unit with (gasp!) a useful, legible map display - very nice, and a very smart way of accomplishing it. This is a product I'd consider.

    Perhaps those commenters deriding the effort haven't bothered to read the site - that's just my speculation, but it wouldn't surprise me - oops, now I'm getting into flaimbait territory.

    1. Re:Useful by theLOUDroom · · Score: 2, Insightful

      So far the majority of comments seem to be negative and describe the unit as junk, but despite my having no interest in owning any gameboy unit, this combo inrigues me

      People aren't really saying that it's junk, as much as that it's pointless.
      A handheld GPS unit goes for $90. This thing goes for $200. Even if you want a color screen, etc, etc you can get that for about the same price AND you don't need a gameboy.

      If this thing was $50 it would be cool, but for $200, it's just not worth it. It's like building an attachment that will turn your GBA into an electric drill for ONLY the cost of two electric drills.

      It's neat for the hack value, but I wouldn't run out and buy stock.

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  16. PRICE? by Cpt_Kirks · · Score: 4, Insightful

    $200? I can get a *VERY* nice GPS unit for a lot less.

    It seems to me that add-on gadgets for PDA's or the GBA should be *CHEAPER* than stand alone versions. They don't have to include the screen, buttons or in some cases a CPU.

    Why do add-ons cost *MORE*?

  17. Ummm... by 8tim8 · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Wow, that's really neat. I wonder what other products will be demo'd at E3 that we can pre-order on. It would be so helpful if Slashdot would provide links to all the other wonderful products (and links to the pre-order form), since I certainly don't want anything like, say, the sales of those products or grassroots word of mouth to determine which products are actually worthwhile (or not vaporware).

    It would be especially good if all the products would be featured in separate stories!

    /sarcasm

  18. Re:I knew it! by Technician · · Score: 2, Informative

    "I take 4 AA batteries yet my light only lasts a whole 2 hours" flashlight attachment.

    Dude! Trade that in. Eveready makes a nice folding LED reading/tent light. (it looks like a miniture folding flouresent lantern) It claims 200 hours on a set of batteries. I can't verify the claim as I'm still on my first set of batteries from last summer.

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  19. Re:Why? by ShieldW0lf · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Where are we Dad?

    Dad, are we there yet?

    Is it much farther, Dad?

    Dad, how much farther is it?

    Where are we Dad?

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  20. Way Too EXPENISIVE by donnacha · · Score: 2, Insightful


    This company have are betting that people will pay roughly TWICE the price of a standard GPS unit purely for the novelty of being able to use their Gameboy.

    Yet another company that just Doesn't Get It.

    Seriously, someone should set up a forum where clueless, middle-aged marketing men can float their pricing strategies before shooting themselves in the foot like this.

  21. Lost with gameboy by st0rmshadow · · Score: 3, Funny

    I can't imagine very many useful applications for this, but it sure is nifty.

    Obviously, you've never been lost in the jungle with your Gameboy.

  22. The incognito war-driver by lullabud · · Score: 3, Interesting

    All they need is to add 802.11g in there and we'd have the ultimate incognito war-walking/driving/biking device!

  23. I heard rumors of this a couple months ago... by jmos1277 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    A couple months ago I heard about a GPS system for the gameboy. It seemed more aimed at the Japanese market at the time. The one really cool idea I heard about the GPS was that Nintendo was going to be making games that relied on where you were in both time and space (the space they envisioned using was Tokyo). For instance, if the player is at the fish market at 4am instead of 7am with his gameboy, his character might be able to buy some really rare fish that he might not otherwise have been able to get. I know it's a strange example, but this of the wacky dynamics this could add to a game!! This would be similar to Majora's Mask, EXCEPT, it matters where the PLAYER is in time and space, not the character! I believe this was another attempt to by Nintendo to get gamers out of the house. Really, the idea is kind of a cross between Zelda: Marjora's Mask, the light sensing game (whatever it was called), and Animal Crossing. Not much good for us that don't live in Tokyo though. It'll be interesting to see what other more generic ideas they can come up with.

  24. GPS w/GBA by pghpirate · · Score: 2, Interesting

    With wireless connectivity for GameBoys, I can imagine some pretty nifty peer-to-peer, realtime combat games....or some sort of detective-like game as a function of location (the mapping programs tell you where restaurants, motels, churches, schools, and other "points of interest" are and will give you directions for getting there, etc.) ...location-specific games, based on a generic game, informed by localized information. At minimum GPS+maps is a neat addon for a GBA, just like it is for a PDA.