1 Post and already slashdotted?
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General+Sherman
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· Score: 5, Funny
They must have been running the server from that SE.
-- - Sherman
Re:1 Post and already slashdotted?
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gb506
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· Score: 5, Informative
They must have been running the server from that SE.
The interesting thing is that you CAN run a (low volume) web server from a 1988 vintage SE...
Re:1 Post and already slashdotted?
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tverbeek
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· Score: 3, Informative
The interesting thing is that you CAN run a (low volume) web server from a 1988 vintage SE...
Yup: add an ethernet adapter, System 7, MacTCP, NetPresenz, and you'll be up and... walking. (If you want something that's actually borderline practical, I recommend a Quadra with System 7.5 and MacHTTP.)
-- http://alternatives.rzero.com/
Re:1 Post and already slashdotted?
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gb506
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· Score: 2, Insightful
With a cheap IP-aware localtalk bridge on the network the ethernet adapter wouldn't even be needed...
Up until the company was sold a couple of years ago, I had a newspaper client (Mac support) that still used SE, SE30, and Mac Classics for their ad/classified sales staff. Eudora, Word 5.1 and Filemaker was all they needed to get the job done... And probably would be all they'd need to get the job done today...
I guess that's one way to stop your employees from wasting time on the web - kinda takes the fun out of it when everything is in B/W and doesn't work with vintage 1995 Netscape!
Re:1 Post and already slashdotted?
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dgatwood
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· Score: 2, Informative
I recommend a quadra running NetBSD and apache. As long as you aren't doing any server-side processing, it should be able to saturate about 3Mbps, if memory serves. (No pun intended.)
The site is already Slashdotted (with 1 comment!) but it's very simple to describe. He turned a 1988 Macintosh into one of the computers from Gilliam's movie "Brazil." Truly impressive piece of work.
I really wish people would stop being amazed at that. What's obviously going on is that the site has been slashdotted by subscribers who see the article before us freeloaders, as the front page constantly reminds us.
From the headline and summary, I was expecting it to be a fake prop computer (like the kind you see in furniture stores) that had been retrofitted with electronics so that it actually worked. Now THAT would have been a pretty damn postmodern casemod. *sigh*, well I guess this compute-writer thing is OK too.
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Just was watching Brazil last night
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mattyohe
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· Score: 3, Informative
Purchase the Criterion edition if you can. Yes it may be 50 dollars, but there is a lot of great content on it.
Actually deep discount DVD has it for 43 dollars.. Free shipping too!
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what is the definition of simultanagnosia?! I've been meaning to look it up!
/.ed but here is the text
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vinit79
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· Score: 5, Informative
The site is already slashdotted but here is the text (not too useful without the photos though)
Built for a game of Cthulhu Lives! that has yet to be played, this piece was inspired by the retro-futuristic machines in the movie Brazil by Terry Gilliam. It was one of the most difficult and time-consuming pieces I've ever attempted.
Despite the ridiculous amount of abuse I subjected it to, and despite the fact that all its components are now exposed to the air, the 1988 Macintosh SE which forms the heart of this piece still works just fine.
Click on the photo at left to see an enlarged view.
Re:/.ed but here is the text
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Anonymous Coward
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· Score: 5, Informative
Re: ElectriClerk Computer Of The Future
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Anonymous Coward
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· Score: 5, Funny
If you had an ink ribbon, you could save your progress.
1988 Mac married to a 1923 Typewriter ...
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mios
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· Score: 4, Insightful
... still looks hotter than the latest Dell box I've seen... and who ever said Apple Computers just look sexy from the outside...
hey... if you zoom up in on the monitor of that picture, I think I can make out the AmigaOS 4 AmiDock running on the bottom of there...
I've seen this already in a magazine (MacAddict?) but it's nice to see it's made its way into Slashdot.
Now just to trick out a G4 cube like this...
The Animatrix
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MajorBlunder
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· Score: 2, Interesting
I've never seen Terry Gilliam's Brazil, so I can't compare this with the machine he says its based on, but it is very reminiscent of the computer used by the private detective in the Detective Story short film in The Animatrix. Very retro-cool. Though why build it with old circa 1980s Mac parts instead of present tech escapes me.
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"I'm making perfect sense, you're just not keeping up."
Though why build it with old circa 1980s Mac parts instead of present tech escapes me.
Maybe because the monitor size/shape was perfect. Monochrome, small, non-flat screen. Just disembowel the old SE and rearrange it as needed.
-- http://www.rootstrikers.org/
Not that new really...
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fiffilinus
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· Score: 5, Informative
This neat little prop was done in 2002, as the wayback machine will tell you. Seems/. is loosing its edge as far as up to date news go:-)
On a redeeming note, I am sure I saw this on/. before...
Re:Not that new really...
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wintermute1974
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· Score: 2, Interesting
I am sure I saw this on/. before...
Yes, you did see this on Slashdot before. I too have been visitng this site for years, and obvious repeats like this one disappoint me. Am I the only one here paying attention?
The original is here if you're interested in reading the original comments.
The mod is still cool. It reminds both of the movie Brazil as well as Theora Jones' terminal in the TV show Max Headroom. Ah, wonderful!
If you can't see the images...
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Chris+Tucker
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· Score: 5, Informative
He tricked out the machine to use the original typewriter keyboard, hacked the carriage return lever to act as the return key, cleverly grafted a trackball onto the side of the typewriter chassis to replace the mouse. The grafted on trackball looks just like part of the chassis.
There are exposed vacuum tubes and the chassis of the Mac, as well as the CRT are alao exposed.
There is a swingaway Fresnel lens in front of the mac CRT.
Recall the computer Theora used in the old Max Headroom TV series? That's a lot what the ElectriClerk looks like.
It is one VERY sexy/Retro casemod!
-- Guaranteed! This comment 100% Anthrax free!
That Mac SE probably runs *better* now...
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HBI
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· Score: 2, Interesting
Given the heat problems of that classic-style Macintosh case, i'm sure the components are actually cooler now than they were inside that thing.
The SE had a fan at least, the Mac Plus didn't have one, which spawned a significant aftermarket in attachable fan modules that would slide into the handle vent (and had an AC cord of their own).
That was all a Steve Jobs snafu - he wanted the Macs to be silent so they were. They were so silent they overheated. After his departure from Apple the fan was added in.
Brings the problems with that lucite cube into better perspective, when you remember back to that.
-- HBI's Law: Frequency of calling others Nazis is directly correlated with the likelihood of the accuser being Communist.
Re:That Mac SE probably runs *better* now...
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gb506
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· Score: 4, Insightful
I've supported hundreds of pre-jobs departure fanless macs and I've *NEVER* had one overheat in normal operating environments... Please dig deeper into the bag to find some reality-based crap to fling, cuz this is FUD.
Re:That Mac SE probably runs *better* now...
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0racle
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· Score: 2, Informative
Because an SE and an SE/30 is a little more computer then the 128/512/Plus's. Do you ask why a P4 needs a fan when a 486 could be passively cooled.
That said to over heat an early Compact, the room has to be almost hotter then hell, and what nut would use a system in those conditions.
-- "I use a Mac because I'm just better than you are."
Where's the pneumatic tube?
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Animats
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· Score: 3, Insightful
The original had a pneumatic tube attachment.
This is a repeat of an earlier Slashdot article
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Anonymous Coward
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· Score: 2, Informative
I realize we all have short memories, but this is a repeate of another Slashdot article.
Might I suggest the editors search Slashdot before posting articles to avoid repetition?
EPIA PC Equivalent
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isny
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· Score: 5, Interesting
Check out the Underwood No. 5 PC where yet another fellow with too active an imagination has converted a typewriter to a computer. Quite clever, actually.
Meet the Underwood Clark Nova model.
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MsGeek
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· Score: 2, Insightful
Yeah, that mod is great...the only thing that it needs is a talking anus. Shades of the David Cronenburg movie Naked Lunch. Exterminate all rational thought.
-- Knowledge is power. Knowledge shared is power multiplied.
No problems with my 128K, 512Ke, and Plus
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green+pizza
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· Score: 4, Informative
I've had a Plus for about 14 years as well as a 128K and a 512Ke for the past 8. All run fine, the Plus even ran 24/7 for three years as my X10 home automation controller. The top vent gets warm, as does the vent on my oldschool G3 CRT iMac... but I've never had heat-related crashes. Very few crashes at all, actually.
OT: On the other hand, my well-vented PowerMac 8100 was a crashy nightmare, but that was due to the horrid versions 7.5.x and 8.x of the OS.
Further OT: I never tried 9.x. I did the NT, 2K, and XP thing. Came back to Apple/Mac/NeXT with a PowerBook G4 and OS X 10.3 Panther... and I couldn't be happier!
The Mac is Not a Typewriter
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weston
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· Score: 4, Funny
Unfortunately, this casemod is not going to help the case of this book.
"Prop" computer?
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CityZen
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· Score: 2, Interesting
When I first read the "prop" part, I imagined those prop computers you see in furniture stores. You know, those plastic computer shells that resemble a generic computer (though lately Ikea seems to be using actual gutted computer cases).
In any case, I thought it would be hilarious to take something that was designed to look like a computer but not be one and make it into a computer. Or a toaster. Or anything functional.
Interesting theory, but the dates don't figure
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michaeldot
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· Score: 4, Informative
That was all a Steve Jobs snafu - he wanted the Macs to be silent so they were. They were so silent they overheated. After his departure from Apple the fan was added in.
The Mac Plus came out in 1986 and was still fanless. Steve Jobs had already left by this time.
The first fanned Macs - the Macintosh SE and Macintosh II - came out in 1987, a long time after he'd left. They were also the first Macs to include internal hard drives, a much more likely reason for the fan to be included.
The G4 Cube does not have overheating problems, that was a myth which went with its "cracks" (in reality, scratches in the mould). Its efficient chimney design transfers heat very effectively from the unit. I still use mine to drive a "photo wall" that is on 8+ hours a day without issue.
The Cube was designed with a place for a fan, It was there if it was needed, should it survive in the market long enough for hotter 1+ GHz PowerPC chips to require one. But at 450/500 MHz it simply didn't.
The Cube flopped, not because of overheating, but because it presented confused expectations of how a computer should look, and because of poor access to its ports and limited expandability. It was still a brilliant design.
The largest surge of traffic is going to occur when the site first becomes available to non-subscribers. In other words, if the site lives past the first 2-3 comments, it'll probably stay up.
-- "The question of whether a computer can think is no more interesting than that of whether a submarine can swim" -EWD
While working as an Apple repairer, I once had a Mac SE in for repairs that had a serious heat issue - it would work fine for about 10-15 minutes then cut out. When we opened it up we found about 1.5 inches of fine red sediment had collected in the bottom of the unit, encasing the logic board and causing it to overheat.
When I checked the paperwork which had come with the machine, it became clear that the computer had come from a cattle breeding station in the country.
I was the first computer I had ever seen that was literally drowning in bull dust. I stripped the machine down, cleaned it thoroughly inside and out, and it worked a treat.
-- Sara Designer, Gamer, Macgrrl in an XP World
Re:Dupe de doo
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the_quark
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· Score: 2, Informative
Here's the dupe story, from November 3, 2002. I remembered it, too, surprised more people didn't jump on this:
An incredibly bizarre sort-of case mod: someone recreated the computer terminals from Terry Gilliam's Brazil, using an old Mac and a 1923 underwood typewriter.
They must have been running the server from that SE.
- Sherman
The site is already Slashdotted (with 1 comment!) but it's very simple to describe. He turned a 1988 Macintosh into one of the computers from Gilliam's movie "Brazil." Truly impressive piece of work.
Bush: He's Liberal in all the wrong ways.
Purchase the Criterion edition if you can. Yes it may be 50 dollars, but there is a lot of great content on it.
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Actually deep discount DVD has it for 43 dollars.. Free shipping too!
http://www.deepdiscountdvd.com/dvd.cfm?itemID=HVD
- what is the definition of simultanagnosia?! I've been meaning to look it up!
The site is already slashdotted but here is the text (not too useful without the photos though) Built for a game of Cthulhu Lives! that has yet to be played, this piece was inspired by the retro-futuristic machines in the movie Brazil by Terry Gilliam. It was one of the most difficult and time-consuming pieces I've ever attempted. Despite the ridiculous amount of abuse I subjected it to, and despite the fact that all its components are now exposed to the air, the 1988 Macintosh SE which forms the heart of this piece still works just fine. Click on the photo at left to see an enlarged view.
If you had an ink ribbon, you could save your progress.
... still looks hotter than the latest Dell box I've seen ... and who ever said Apple Computers just look sexy from the outside ...
hey ... if you zoom up in on the monitor of that picture, I think I can make out the AmigaOS 4 AmiDock running on the bottom of there ...
Timothy is killing websites right and left today!
Google's Cache
http://eth0.is-a-geek.org/
There seems to be a mirror (with pictures that load) here.
I've seen this already in a magazine (MacAddict?) but it's nice to see it's made its way into Slashdot.
Now just to trick out a G4 cube like this...
I've never seen Terry Gilliam's Brazil, so I can't compare this with the machine he says its based on, but it is very reminiscent of the computer used by the private detective in the Detective Story short film in The Animatrix. Very retro-cool. Though why build it with old circa 1980s Mac parts instead of present tech escapes me.
"I'm making perfect sense, you're just not keeping up."
This neat little prop was done in 2002, as the wayback machine will tell you. Seems /. is loosing its edge as far as up to date news go :-)
On a redeeming note, I am sure I saw this on /. before...
He tricked out the machine to use the original typewriter keyboard, hacked the carriage return lever to act as the return key, cleverly grafted a trackball onto the side of the typewriter chassis to replace the mouse. The grafted on trackball looks just like part of the chassis.
There are exposed vacuum tubes and the chassis of the Mac, as well as the CRT are alao exposed.
There is a swingaway Fresnel lens in front of the mac CRT.
Recall the computer Theora used in the old Max Headroom TV series? That's a lot what the ElectriClerk looks like.
It is one VERY sexy/Retro casemod!
Guaranteed! This comment 100% Anthrax free!
Given the heat problems of that classic-style Macintosh case, i'm sure the components are actually cooler now than they were inside that thing.
The SE had a fan at least, the Mac Plus didn't have one, which spawned a significant aftermarket in attachable fan modules that would slide into the handle vent (and had an AC cord of their own).
That was all a Steve Jobs snafu - he wanted the Macs to be silent so they were. They were so silent they overheated. After his departure from Apple the fan was added in.
Brings the problems with that lucite cube into better perspective, when you remember back to that.
HBI's Law: Frequency of calling others Nazis is directly correlated with the likelihood of the accuser being Communist.
The original had a pneumatic tube attachment.
Might I suggest the editors search Slashdot before posting articles to avoid repetition?
Check out the Underwood No. 5 PC where yet another fellow with too active an imagination has converted a typewriter to a computer. Quite clever, actually.
Yeah, that mod is great...the only thing that it needs is a talking anus. Shades of the David Cronenburg movie Naked Lunch. Exterminate all rational thought.
Knowledge is power. Knowledge shared is power multiplied.
I've had a Plus for about 14 years as well as a 128K and a 512Ke for the past 8. All run fine, the Plus even ran 24/7 for three years as my X10 home automation controller. The top vent gets warm, as does the vent on my oldschool G3 CRT iMac... but I've never had heat-related crashes. Very few crashes at all, actually.
OT: On the other hand, my well-vented PowerMac 8100 was a crashy nightmare, but that was due to the horrid versions 7.5.x and 8.x of the OS.
Further OT: I never tried 9.x. I did the NT, 2K, and XP thing. Came back to Apple/Mac/NeXT with a PowerBook G4 and OS X 10.3 Panther... and I couldn't be happier!
Unfortunately, this casemod is not going to help the case of this book.
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When I first read the "prop" part, I imagined those prop computers you see in furniture stores. You know, those plastic computer shells that resemble a generic computer (though lately Ikea seems to be using actual gutted computer cases).
In any case, I thought it would be hilarious to take something that was designed to look like a computer but not be one and make it into a computer. Or a toaster. Or anything functional.
That was all a Steve Jobs snafu - he wanted the Macs to be silent so they were. They were so silent they overheated. After his departure from Apple the fan was added in.
The Mac Plus came out in 1986 and was still fanless. Steve Jobs had already left by this time.
The first fanned Macs - the Macintosh SE and Macintosh II - came out in 1987, a long time after he'd left. They were also the first Macs to include internal hard drives, a much more likely reason for the fan to be included.
The G4 Cube does not have overheating problems, that was a myth which went with its "cracks" (in reality, scratches in the mould). Its efficient chimney design transfers heat very effectively from the unit. I still use mine to drive a "photo wall" that is on 8+ hours a day without issue.
The Cube was designed with a place for a fan, It was there if it was needed, should it survive in the market long enough for hotter 1+ GHz PowerPC chips to require one. But at 450/500 MHz it simply didn't.
The Cube flopped, not because of overheating, but because it presented confused expectations of how a computer should look, and because of poor access to its ports and limited expandability. It was still a brilliant design.
The largest surge of traffic is going to occur when the site first becomes available to non-subscribers. In other words, if the site lives past the first 2-3 comments, it'll probably stay up.
"The question of whether a computer can think is no more interesting than that of whether a submarine can swim" -EWD
While working as an Apple repairer, I once had a Mac SE in for repairs that had a serious heat issue - it would work fine for about 10-15 minutes then cut out. When we opened it up we found about 1.5 inches of fine red sediment had collected in the bottom of the unit, encasing the logic board and causing it to overheat.
When I checked the paperwork which had come with the machine, it became clear that the computer had come from a cattle breeding station in the country.
I was the first computer I had ever seen that was literally drowning in bull dust. I stripped the machine down, cleaned it thoroughly inside and out, and it worked a treat.
Sara
Designer, Gamer, Macgrrl in an XP World
Here's the dupe story, from November 3, 2002. I remembered it, too, surprised more people didn't jump on this:
An incredibly bizarre sort-of case mod: someone recreated the computer terminals from Terry Gilliam's Brazil, using an old Mac and a 1923 underwood typewriter.