Except for the fact that these applications are Mac applications, and are therefore run on Apple hardware, as far as I know Apple has absolutely nothing to do with this.
That's not what the folks over at reddit have to say.
In fact, the site those reasons exactly as the reason they couldn't continue w/ lisp:
+ different machines were used in dev/production.. the lisps were diff on diff platforms
+ no libraries there for web/networking/other things
Don't get me wrong, I really enjoy programming in lisp, but where do you get the idea that it can't be beat for web and db development? I've looked over UnCommenWeb... not all that impressed.
And databases? What's out there in the lisp world for databases?
Not trolling, I'm genuinely curious to see what you have up your sleeve:-)
I'd like to announce a new RoR framework -- Robots On Rails -- it's a full stack, open source, robotics framework.
We model a robot based on a real human sample.. no tricky programming... no need to bother yourself with the hum-drum responses to sensory inputs...
So bring your buttler down and we'll auto-generate a butler robot based on the human model's attributes instrinsic to their DNA sequence... all you need to do is extend the base DNActiveRecord
Bring some extra 2x4's and I-Beams, and you'll get some quick scaffolding up which you can customize later tailor to your *specific* robot's aesthetic needs... because at the very core, all robots are the same.
Our Motto will always be "No heuristics, no problem!"
We're putting together the final touches on our 20min tutorial video as we speak... keep on the lookout.
I was running as root setting up our debian server at work to do some level 1 raid magic.
I was real close to finished after working on it the better part of a day or two... after jumping around editing this file, doing that, mirroring a partition of a hard drive, I wanted to undo something a copy I made by nuking a directory...instead I typed someting dumb like:
rm -rf/usr/*
after hitting enter and realizing how dumb I really could be, I truly understood why you shouldn't be running around as Mr. Root.
Though I needed root privs to edit some of the conf files and what not, you realize that sometimes running as root is like having sex without a condom.
If you want to have kids, don't use a condom.
All of the rest of the times, though... it's a real good idea, because the rhythm method just does't hack it...
You know, this is the *exact* same type of challenges bioinformatics has to deal with.... filter out the signal from noise from a *shit load* of information. I wonder if some of the methods/techniques being used in that field are applicable (or already being applied) to this problem.
Yeah.. at first it was like "Oh yeah... people are starting to smarten up and finally we got more people going to the polls!... score one for democracy!"... then it all starts coming in and you realize who they must have been voting for, then you start thinking.. wtf, they're not getting smarter, somehow they just got stupider.
Well.. here's the thing... whenever (that one time) a mac exploit is posted, most every/. windows user starts to drool and froth at the mouth to do the same thing talking something about Mac security and comparing it only to market share... is it right? Who knows, do some people get off on it, it sure seems like it...
Mac folks have been the whipping boy for quite some time, so if we can jab every now and again, then more power to us.
Other thing to think about, is it the problem of the poster or the replier who quotes from the bible and moves hell and highwater to say something intelligent like "Well, you only have one mouse." or something about overpriced hardware... I actually thought his post funny and light-hearted.
As for the election... [looksovershoulder]well, I bet Bush uses a fucking windows box anyway[/looksovershoulder]...:-)
Shit... my theory is imploding on me now... wait.. I used to be in that polaroid on the wall and I'm slowly disappearing... dang space flux capacitors...
Holy shit.. by the looks of these replies, you'd think you folks were on his Doctoral comittee and he just submitted this as his Disertation thesis...
It's an 'interesting' statistic -- an urban myth. You people are busting out with Chebyshev's law this, and according to Modus Ponens that... sweet jesus, it's just a funny coincidence...
hey, news flash, you're not going to find the meaning of life encoded in the articles of slashdot...
Wow... hey, there is no Santa Claus either so I don't want to hear about that weird deer you saw running around on your roof on christmas eve last year, either...
Unfortunately, when you take Africa and look at it through the looking glass of "The World Economy," it is "poor" and "third world."
Though it shouldn't be, should it? If you look in terms of natural resources, Africa is quite rich (which is why, I guess, it was such an attractive target of colonization... isn't the human nurturing spirit so inspiring!) Now they are in the unfortunate situation of exporting their resources then buying them back after they are 'processed' by the 'developed' world... I'm not an economist, but I reckon it's quite difficult to strenghen the economy in that fashion.
Africa is rich in culture and/true/ humanity (with the unfortunate exception of a few civil wars and 'ethnic cleansing'.. which we can also thank the colonial visionaries for as well!)... however that doesn't translate into economic surplus...
Anyway... embracing technology is a catch 22, though. Before you can rely on the technology, you need to build the infrastructure, and well, how do you do that?
How/do/ you do that? And how do you get/encourage/convice a Country to do that, and that that is the best thing to do, while there is still a need to provide basic necessities such as clean water and health care to other parts of that same country?
On one hand, it's easy to see the importance of adopting and adapting to a technology based/driven economy, but how to leap frog there is a conundrum.
I bet he would have been in a new movie as well... I mean shit, William Shatner manages to make his way back into your random star-trek spin off.
To a great many people Christopher Reeve/is/ Superman... shit, the comic book character looked like him, new dude in smallville looks like him.. he would have been in there just like Stan Lee pops his head into every Marvell movie that comes out.
Suckers are bomb proof... I lugged my laptop around when I was in the Peace Corps over in Ghana for 2 years... I had a carabiner clipped to one of the metal loops on it... I hooked it into the luggage rack on the top of many a bush taxi when there wasn't space enough in there cuz we were packed full of people... did fine.
Found my self caught up in a deluge a few times, she kept my laptop dry too.. it's lined with some vinyl or whatever on the inside... the bag looks wet, the inside was fine... good thing cuz it kept my clothes dry as well.. the laptop also has an extra padding sleeve...
I have the old version of this meta bag... needed a bigger bag so I can pack some other shit in there and not just my cpu.
Really... I am very happy with it, still... I've had it for 4 years so far and still use it most every day.. even as a normal bag when I don't need to lug the powerbook around.
I think I paid $180 for it... worth every penny, really.
Hah.. yeah, that would be an interesting support call to say the least.
Truth of the matter is that I don't think that responsibility falls in my lap. A system is built to a certain requirement spec at the time of proposal... we need x,y,z to be in place and we'll give you a,b,c... if you decide to move to a place that doesn't support the reqs of the original project, how is this my problem?
What if we built a java web app and the person sometime down the road wants to switch to a different server/provider that doesn't have java installed/supported? Is that really much different?
In the course of the past 4 months, we've acquired (or upgraded to their new server offerings) about 4 different root servers from 4 different providers
ValueWeb
1and1.com
MediaTemple
Verio
None of them have mysql 4 installed... maybe I've had a run of bad luck:-)
I'd be interested in what you think makes php5 not production-ready, though. Is it just for the fact that it is a recent release, or have you experienced/heard of some nasties rearing their ugly head?
Heh.. maybe we agree to disagree.. because I am pretty sure that php5 is "so much better":-)
The better object model and the try / catch additions alone are what, to me, really sells it
I'm not saying that your points are not valid.. they are.. portability is sometimes key.. and yes, if it needs to move and run in many different environments, I guess you might choose php4. If you don't have control of your production environment, then you have to code to what is there, to be sure, but if I'm in control of the environment, and a client is contracting me to build a new system/project for them, I'm going to choose php5 every time now.
The same argument applies to every other technology. Many hosting providers now still only offer mysql 3.x... if I choose to use mysql, and I find the project will benefit from the new features in mysql4.x (barring any licensing issues)... why would I stick with the older version if I can control that? Or if the project will benefit from using postgres... same argument... just because you are given something, doesn't mean it's the best thing to use.
Just my 2 cents... I guess I'm also taking for granted/assuming that php5 is production ready.. which might be a dumb thing for me to do, and my ass might get burned.. I'll let you know in a few months:-)
You're right in some ways, but I'd hate to tell someone to stick to php4 when php5 is so much better. 1and1.com offers php5 support already...
just spreading the word, I'm sure there are others, but that's what I know for sure.
And if you are in control of your own server, you can keep php4 + apache running in the foreground and then ProxyPass to a second apache running on a diff port if you want to start deploying some php5 apps until you are confident you can move everything over to php5.
That's amazing that you knew this...
but how the/hell/ did you figure that out?
Firefox has been my default browser for long time, but I had no idea... is there some über reference to about:config or user.js that I don't know about?
Thanks.
Slashdot Mirror
How exactly is Apple making money on this?
Except for the fact that these applications are Mac applications, and are therefore run on Apple hardware, as far as I know Apple has absolutely nothing to do with this.
Do you really think the poster wasn't kidding and taking a jab at Adobe and Microsoft for dragging their asses?
That's not what the folks over at reddit have to say. In fact, the site those reasons exactly as the reason they couldn't continue w/ lisp: + different machines were used in dev/production .. the lisps were diff on diff platforms
+ no libraries there for web/networking/other things
Don't get me wrong, I really enjoy programming in lisp, but where do you get the idea that it can't be beat for web and db development? I've looked over UnCommenWeb ... not all that impressed.
And databases? What's out there in the lisp world for databases?
Not trolling, I'm genuinely curious to see what you have up your sleeve :-)
I'd like to announce a new RoR framework -- Robots On Rails -- it's a full stack, open source, robotics framework.
.. no tricky programming ... no need to bother yourself with the hum-drum responses to sensory inputs ...
... all you need to do is extend the base DNActiveRecord
... because at the very core, all robots are the same.
... keep on the lookout.
We model a robot based on a real human sample
So bring your buttler down and we'll auto-generate a butler robot based on the human model's attributes instrinsic to their DNA sequence
Bring some extra 2x4's and I-Beams, and you'll get some quick scaffolding up which you can customize later tailor to your *specific* robot's aesthetic needs
Our Motto will always be "No heuristics, no problem!"
We're putting together the final touches on our 20min tutorial video as we speak
That was one of the smartest/funniest things I've read in slashdot in a long while.
Cheers.
it only takes one time ... and yes, I've actually done something close enough to that to realize that one time is enough.
I was running as root setting up our debian server at work to do some level 1 raid magic. I was real close to finished after working on it the better part of a day or two ... after jumping around editing this file, doing that, mirroring a partition of a hard drive, I wanted to undo something a copy I made by nuking a directory ...instead I typed someting dumb like:
rm -rf /usr/*
after hitting enter and realizing how dumb I really could be, I truly understood why you shouldn't be running around as Mr. Root.
Though I needed root privs to edit some of the conf files and what not, you realize that sometimes running as root is like having sex without a condom.
If you want to have kids, don't use a condom.
All of the rest of the times, though ... it's a real good idea, because the rhythm method just does't hack it ...
You know, this is the *exact* same type of challenges bioinformatics has to deal with .... filter out the signal from noise from a *shit load* of information. I wonder if some of the methods/techniques being used in that field are applicable (or already being applied) to this problem.
oops, what the hell, the link didn't come through ... http://www.apache.org/dist/httpd/Announcement2.htm l that's the apache link.
Perhaps you've been asleep when every other software package releases updates/bug-fixes/security patched.
Apache: 85% of the internet can't be wrong.
Please sir, dismount yourself from that high horse you are riding on.
No .. that's not him ... it's a stunt man ...
Yeah .. at first it was like "Oh yeah ... people are starting to smarten up and finally we got more people going to the polls! ... score one for democracy!" ... then it all starts coming in and you realize who they must have been voting for, then you start thinking .. wtf, they're not getting smarter, somehow they just got stupider.
farkers.
Well .. here's the thing ... whenever (that one time) a mac exploit is posted, most every /. windows user starts to drool and froth at the mouth to do the same thing talking something about Mac security and comparing it only to market share ... is it right? Who knows, do some people get off on it, it sure seems like it ...
... I actually thought his post funny and light-hearted.
... [looksovershoulder]well, I bet Bush uses a fucking windows box anyway[/looksovershoulder] ... :-)
Mac folks have been the whipping boy for quite some time, so if we can jab every now and again, then more power to us.
Other thing to think about, is it the problem of the poster or the replier who quotes from the bible and moves hell and highwater to say something intelligent like "Well, you only have one mouse." or something about overpriced hardware
As for the election
No, not overzealous ... correct mac users ...
hahah ... I stand corrected.
... my theory is imploding on me now ... wait .. I used to be in that polaroid on the wall and I'm slowly disappearing ... dang space flux capacitors ...
Shit
Holy shit .. by the looks of these replies, you'd think you folks were on his Doctoral comittee and he just submitted this as his Disertation thesis ... ... sweet jesus, it's just a funny coincidence ...
...
... hey, there is no Santa Claus either so I don't want to hear about that weird deer you saw running around on your roof on christmas eve last year, either ...
It's an 'interesting' statistic -- an urban myth. You people are busting out with Chebyshev's law this, and according to Modus Ponens that
hey, news flash, you're not going to find the meaning of life encoded in the articles of slashdot
Wow
Unfortunately, when you take Africa and look at it through the looking glass of "The World Economy," it is "poor" and "third world."
... isn't the human nurturing spirit so inspiring!) Now they are in the unfortunate situation of exporting their resources then buying them back after they are 'processed' by the 'developed' world ... I'm not an economist, but I reckon it's quite difficult to strenghen the economy in that fashion.
/true/ humanity (with the unfortunate exception of a few civil wars and 'ethnic cleansing' .. which we can also thank the colonial visionaries for as well!) ... however that doesn't translate into economic surplus ...
... embracing technology is a catch 22, though. Before you can rely on the technology, you need to build the infrastructure, and well, how do you do that?
/do/ you do that? And how do you get/encourage/convice a Country to do that, and that that is the best thing to do, while there is still a need to provide basic necessities such as clean water and health care to other parts of that same country?
Though it shouldn't be, should it? If you look in terms of natural resources, Africa is quite rich (which is why, I guess, it was such an attractive target of colonization
Africa is rich in culture and
Good book to read, The Shadow of the Sun
Anyway
How
On one hand, it's easy to see the importance of adopting and adapting to a technology based/driven economy, but how to leap frog there is a conundrum.
Did you see his cameo in Smallville?
... I mean shit, William Shatner manages to make his way back into your random star-trek spin off.
/is/ Superman ... shit, the comic book character looked like him, new dude in smallville looks like him .. he would have been in there just like Stan Lee pops his head into every Marvell movie that comes out.
I bet he would have been in a new movie as well
To a great many people Christopher Reeve
spire bags are the way to go.
... I lugged my laptop around when I was in the Peace Corps over in Ghana for 2 years ... I had a carabiner clipped to one of the metal loops on it ... I hooked it into the luggage rack on the top of many a bush taxi when there wasn't space enough in there cuz we were packed full of people ... did fine.
.. it's lined with some vinyl or whatever on the inside ... the bag looks wet, the inside was fine ... good thing cuz it kept my clothes dry as well .. the laptop also has an extra padding sleeve ...
... needed a bigger bag so I can pack some other shit in there and not just my cpu.
Really ... I am very happy with it, still ... I've had it for 4 years so far and still use it most every day .. even as a normal bag when I don't need to lug the powerbook around.
... worth every penny, really.
Suckers are bomb proof
Found my self caught up in a deluge a few times, she kept my laptop dry too
I have the old version of this meta bag
I think I paid $180 for it
-steve
Truth of the matter is that I don't think that responsibility falls in my lap. A system is built to a certain requirement spec at the time of proposal
What if we built a java web app and the person sometime down the road wants to switch to a different server/provider that doesn't have java installed/supported? Is that really much different?
In the course of the past 4 months, we've acquired (or upgraded to their new server offerings) about 4 different root servers from 4 different providers
- ValueWeb
- 1and1.com
- MediaTemple
- Verio
None of them have mysql 4 installedI'd be interested in what you think makes php5 not production-ready, though. Is it just for the fact that it is a recent release, or have you experienced/heard of some nasties rearing their ugly head?
Heh .. maybe we agree to disagree .. because I am pretty sure that php5 is "so much better" :-)
.. they are .. portability is sometimes key .. and yes, if it needs to move and run in many different environments, I guess you might choose php4. If you don't have control of your production environment, then you have to code to what is there, to be sure, but if I'm in control of the environment, and a client is contracting me to build a new system/project for them, I'm going to choose php5 every time now. ... if I choose to use mysql, and I find the project will benefit from the new features in mysql4.x (barring any licensing issues) ... why would I stick with the older version if I can control that? Or if the project will benefit from using postgres ... same argument ... just because you are given something, doesn't mean it's the best thing to use.
... I guess I'm also taking for granted/assuming that php5 is production ready .. which might be a dumb thing for me to do, and my ass might get burned .. I'll let you know in a few months :-)
The better object model and the try / catch additions alone are what, to me, really sells it
I'm not saying that your points are not valid
The same argument applies to every other technology. Many hosting providers now still only offer mysql 3.x
Just my 2 cents
Yeah .. you should do it.
If you can install your own apache/php5 combo on your box, then why not go for it?
You're right in some ways, but I'd hate to tell someone to stick to php4 when php5 is so much better. ...
just spreading the word, I'm sure there are others, but that's what I know for sure.
And if you are in control of your own server, you can keep php4 + apache running in the foreground and then ProxyPass to a second apache running on a diff port if you want to start deploying some php5 apps until you are confident you can move everything over to php5.
s /83_How_to_run_PHP4_and_PHP_5_prallel.html
That's what I'm starting to do .. so far, so good.
1and1.com offers php5 support already
2 good refs for that are: http://wiki.coggeshall.org/37.html and http://www.schlitt.info/applications/blog/archive
That's amazing that you knew this ...
but how the /hell/ did you figure that out?
... is there some über reference to about:config or user.js that I don't know about?
Thanks.
Firefox has been my default browser for long time, but I had no idea
What's 2-way / 4-way mean? I mean, multi-processors I get ... multi-way(?)
Anyone care to shine a light for the uninitiated?
Cheers,
-steve