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Plextor First With A 12x DVD+R Drive
Tesko writes "It seems the first 12x DVD+R drive has been released by none other than Plextor, with their Model PX-712A (Product link here). The drive's write speed includes, 48X CD-R, 24X CD-RW, 12X DVD+R, 8X DVD-R, 4X DVD+RW, 4X DVD-RW. And it's read speed comes in at 48X CD-ROM/CD-R, and 16X DVD-ROM. Also noteworthy, the drive apparently has a 8MB buffer."
No its not. Thats almost always the case. Several burners already on the market burn slower to a DVD-R than a DVD+R. TDK and Sony both sell burners that burn at 8x for DVD+R but only 4x for DVD-R. I fail to see your point.
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You'll also note that us lucky non-US customers get a 2-year On-Site collect and return warranty. Woo!
Media costs? Well let's see..
25 4X DVD+R for $31
100 52X CD-R for $31
So that's.. 25*4700MB[*] / 31 = 3.7GB/$ for DVDs
And.. 100*700MB / 31 = 2.2GB/$ for CDs.
Add in the fact that, to burn 4.7GB in CDs takes 7x700MB CDs, so you're doing a lot more disc swapping.. I can't see any reason to use CDs. Especially not for media cost reasons. Yeah, you can get cheaper media than that, but if you want good quality stuff, this is the range you're looking at.
[*] DVDs are 4700MB, not 4.7GB (4812MB)
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Are these devices standard? Can i just put it in my box and use it?
yes. And with the 2.6 kernels, you don't even need SCSI emulation any longer.
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12x speed is very nice but this is still a single layer dvd writer. The first of the dual layers will be out in a few weeks. Sony is sceduled to be out the 16th. You can already preorder it. The specs this beast are nice but its dead on the floor. Wait till the dual layer is here then they will be giving them away.
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Double layer support (8.5 GB) is the hot thing to come for DVD's and without this, there is no way this thing will be a success.
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They have a Serial ATA version as well. I'm looking at getting this one now that I'm addicted to SATA. It's super fast and easy to hook up drives, what more coudl you want?
Unfortunately it's not just the memory that would need to be increased, all the controller systems need to be lengthened to handle the larger address space.
4700000000 bytes = 4589843KB = 4482MB = 4.37GB.
Going back to my original calculation..
25*4.37GB / 31 = 3.5GB/$ for DVDs
So, still considerably cheaper.
My G4 is writing 2 minute videos to 4xDVD-R's as I write this and it turns out the recent firmware "update" to the Pioneer superdrive means that 4x disks now write at 1x, which makes me realize yet again that I MUST READ THE READ ME's before buying a 50 pack of 4x blank DVD-R media.
Hopefully Apple will start making faster DVD burners standard in their G5's very soon now!
Because black is darker and absorbs more light there are less reflections of the 650nm blue laser which writes the data to the disc. therefor the beam is more exact and the data's more secure.
... they use red lasers. Blue lasers are coming with that "Blu-Ray" technology.
I hate to break it to you, but 650nm is RED, not blue. Blue is 450nm. And anyways, current DVD technology doesn't use blue lasers anyway
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SATA Version here.
Due out slightly after the IDE version. Mind you, there's no performance reason to go with SATA, which is probably why the uptake of SATA optical drives is so slow.
Plextor claims that the drive will write at 12x on its branded 8x media and it's quite possible that it'll do so on other media too if you're lucky.
I'd say most likely because 8x hasn't been officially approved as a DVD-R format (last I heard, anyway). Last time I tried to check out the DVD-R forum website (I'm pretty sure it was the official one), I couldn't get any information without a username/password, which cost money.
It's that main point that has had me waiting for 8x to be approved until I buy a new DVD-R drive (my current drive is a Pioneer DVR-A04). When I checked out the media list for the Pioneer DVR-A07, I noticed that they're playing the same tricks as they did for 2x on the A03 and A04 - certain firmwares, certain media brands, must go through Pioneer certification, blah, blah, blah. Although there's a bunch of drives that are claimed to be 8x compatible, I believe that many of them (not all) are OEM Pioneer drives.
Now, if they could ratify 8x -R as a standard and get a good dual-layer drive out, I'd pay a good chunk of change for it.
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Much of the media out there as DVD+R that says it is 4x media will also burn at 8x. I have the Plextor 708A drive, 8x DVD+R burner, and I buy 4x Memorex media and burn at 8x with no problems. You may want to look at DVDRhelp.com and see what media burns at what. The list covers 25 different media brands and tells exactly how fast they will burn at with what burners, etc.
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Holy goddamn. I thought I had seen the last of the blink tag when 1997 left us. Seriously it has been 5+ years since I've ever found a page with a blink tag on it.
Mental note - don't buy Plextor until they learn that 'cool' HTML tricks from 1995 are not a good idea.
I work in MR imaging. We recently bought a set of 160gb drives to upgrade our workstations (they shipped with 80gb drives.) Within a week we had filled all of the new drives about 60% full with new in-process data from our MR scanners (we do research, and pull data from multiple scanners on campus.)
Aside from driving the local network admin nuts ("We need to buy ANOTHER multi-terabyte raid to do local backups?!?"), the data we pull needs to be backed up. We used to burn CDs, and only recently have we started burning DVDs. It make a big difference when you can burn one single data set to one disc, instead of splitting it into pieces, or having to zip them. My only worry is that DVDs may not be able to last - we lost a bunch of data that were stored on 1gb Jaz cartridges when the carts went bad, and unfortunately, they hadn't made backup copies.
Although we do research in my group, the SOP for the MR/CT scanners for clinical patients is to burn CDs for archiving patient data. Keep that in mind if the MPAA/RIAA manages to put through ANOTHER tax on recordable media. If your insurance costs go up, you'll know who to blame.
Actually your more likely to be able to use a CD than a floppy. New systems from Dell don't have have floppy drives in the default config.
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Plextor have always had a pretty good reputation for CD and DVD drives.. my dad bought their 8x drive recently and I was extremely impressed with it. Absolutely rock solid performance, extremely fast for reading (best digital audio extraction I've seen, ever) - and the bundled software is cool too. None of the usual buggy useless bloatware crap you get with most hardware, it's a neat unobtrusive tool that sits in the systray, but lets you tweak all aspects of the drive's performance, and lets you burn audio and data CDs/DVDs, even with Ogg Vorbis support for ripping and burning! (that really suprised me)
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So yeah, well done Plextor