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Plextor First With A 12x DVD+R Drive

Posted by timothy on from the far-faster-than-average-burners-remember dept.

Tesko writes "It seems the first 12x DVD+R drive has been released by none other than Plextor, with their Model PX-712A (Product link here). The drive's write speed includes, 48X CD-R, 24X CD-RW, 12X DVD+R, 8X DVD-R, 4X DVD+RW, 4X DVD-RW. And it's read speed comes in at 48X CD-ROM/CD-R, and 16X DVD-ROM. Also noteworthy, the drive apparently has a 8MB buffer."

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  1. If only ... by TheGavster · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Now if only I had 4GB of something to burn to disc that fast ... For critical files, I'm going to run at low speeds for safety, for less critical stuff I'll probably be on a CD, if for no reason other than media costs.

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    1. Re:If only ... by FlipmodePlaya · · Score: 1, Insightful

      DVD drives are not yet as ubiquitous as CD drives. For a backup of critical data, I'd want to be able to read it at as many places as possible. For that, I'd say a CD is your best bet. That doesn't always matter, though.

    2. Re:If only ... by Noehre · · Score: 3, Insightful

      They're actually 4.3GB/4400MB.

      They use the lovely base-10 gigabyte.

    3. Re:If only ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      In my eyes, your post lost all credibility when it incorrectly stated that DVDs were indeed 4700MB. Hard to trust someone who has never even used the media before.

      And not to mention your calculations are based on wild assumptions. CDRs are on sale all the time at the local stores, I know because I have gotten some name brand media ranging from 12.99-16.99. On the other hand, I rarely see DVDR media on sale.

      As a final note, please note that most of the time if someone wants to back something up, he does *not* have exactly 4.3 gigs to backup. Anything less then that would be a waste of a DVDR, and would better go on some CDRs.

  2. Eh, no big by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    An 8x burner is pretty fast, so 12x isn't really that big of a deal. This like the 48x burners vs. the 32x burners. We're talking only a couple minutes difference. The next big leap is the dual layer drivers.

    1. Re:Eh, no big by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      More importantly when and are you going to find reasonably priced 12X media? 8X media isn't even common everywhere. This drive doesn' have much going for it over current 8X burners or the new DL burners that are just coming out.

  3. please explain. by j3ll0 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Black CD tray minimizes jitter

    Can anyone with a bit of know-how explain why the colour of the tray would minimse Jitter?

    1. Re:please explain. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful
      Black CD tray minimizes jitter

      Can anyone with a bit of know-how explain why the colour of the tray would minimse Jitter?

      How about "dumb guy attempts witty joke?" The fact that you're dumb does not have anything to do with your attempt to make a witty joke, but both parts of the sentence are true. So in the given example, they wanted to say the tray was black, but also that it minimised jitter. The way you would prefer to phrase it would be this: "We have a black CD tray. The tray reduces jitter." Not a very smooth statement, and obviously no one would mistake the original statement to mean something else, unless they were intending to in order to make a pitful joke, like an obnoxious Slashdotter does in every story.
  4. Speedy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    1385KB/s * 12 = 16620KB/s, or in other words: the buffer will empty in half a second if the stream dries up. Good thing we have linking.

    (I assume it's zoned so the real numbers will probably be slightly less)

  5. Re:Hmm... by DaHat · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I think the underlying question is 'why'?

    Saying that others already do similar things does not answer the Q.

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  6. I'll take it by Tmurder · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This will inevitably drive the price of the other plextor dvd burners(708a, 504a, etc) and subsequently other 8x burners down, i'll take that. Can't beat plextor quality especially when the price will drop a bit. I'll be perfectly happy with a 8x burner.

  7. Re:SCSI is dead. by StillAnonymous · · Score: 2, Insightful

    SCSI has never been "popular" with home users, except when it was the only choice available, like with early Macs and Amigas.

    The minor performance increase a home user might realise with SCSI is far outweighed by the exhorbitant price premium they charge.

  8. Re:Dead Technology! by Trejkaz · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Or alternatively, they might upgrade the firmware to support dual layer so you can burn some disks at high speed and dual layer disks at a lower speed.

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  9. Re:I'd never buy one of these! by Bilestoad · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It's not the drive that kills you, it's the media. Without 12x media (+R) or 8x media (-R) it's no better than drives at half the price. I thought I was lucky having a 4x drive until I saw the price of the media compared to 1x - for that much money, I'm happy to wait.

  10. Re:Dead Technology! by dbretton · · Score: 2, Insightful

    A recent article [anandtech.com] showed that the DL write speeds at 2.4x. So you can spend 45mins burning 1 DL DVD, or 2x 15min burning two DVDs at 8x.

    Yup, but, if I am backing up a DL DVD, then here are my options:
    1) Dual Layer option:
    backup + burn (~ 1 hr)
    2) Single Layer option 1: (shrink)
    strip + requantize + burn (~2hrs)
    3) Single Layer option 2: (shrink)
    strip + reencode + burn (~12-20 hrs)
    4) Single Layer option 3: (2 DVD-R's)
    backup, separate, edit IFO files + reauthor + burn + burn (~2 - 3 hrs, most of it interactive)

    I'll take the slow DL burn over the fast SL burn.