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Lithium-Sulfur Batteries Unveiled

mobilemag writes "Sion Power is showing off its new Lithium-Sulfur battery design this week at the Windows Hardware Engineering Conference (WinHEC). SION believes that its new Lithium-Sulfur (Li-S) batteries are the answer to the power hungry devices on the market today."

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  1. Bloody Yanks... by Prowl · · Score: 5, Funny

    its sulphur

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    1. Re:Bloody Yanks... by BigBadBri · · Score: 5, Funny
      It ain't sulfur, boy - that there is good ol' Biblical brimstone!

      The Lord has sent these here batteries to power the iBooks of the Sodomites, and will smite them mightily!

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    2. Re:Bloody Yanks... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      it's "sulfur" now, the International Union of Pure and Applied Chemistry says so.

  2. Excellent for the Chinese Market by BigBadBri · · Score: 5, Funny
    From the article:

    Li-S could be easily packed into the tinniest devices

    That means it'll be great for powering my tinny DVD, my tinny digital camera, in fact anything tinny and of far-Eastern manufacture.

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  3. Very nice. by i_am_syco · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What about heat? I know that isn't always a big deal with batteries, but if you've got a device like a laptop, it can become a huge issue. I can imagine these powering the PowerBook G6 or something.

  4. cool by hdd · · Score: 5, Funny

    " Li-S is still 3-5 years away." Wow just in time for 4.6Ghz longhorn laptops!

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  5. Hmmmm... by Alexis+Brooke · · Score: 5, Funny

    Well, these batteries might smell bad, but atleast they won't be depressed about it.

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  6. The Manufacturer has more information by PatrickThomson · · Score: 5, Informative
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  7. Mmmm... by k4_pacific · · Score: 5, Funny

    Q. what would the battery industry give me if I developed a lightweight, portable, inexhaustible power supply?

    A. A horse's head in my bed.

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  8. Re:Mmmm sulfur by no+longer+myself · · Score: 5, Informative
    Environmentally speaking the lithium currently in use is probably more of a threat, and cadmium is most definitely not something you want to eat.

    We produce tons of sulfur waste every day simply because it's an abundant element to begin with. It may not smell nice when mixed with other things (as pure sulfur in its crytal form is nearly oderless), but it doesn't pose a significant health risk.

    Heavy metals, petrolium distilates, and other exotic chemicals are still the greatest threat to landfill leaching.

    All in all, with only 300 charges, I'll keep my fingers crossed they come up with something better.

  9. Re:Fix a different problem... by Indian · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Batteries are not used just in electronics. Just think of hybrid cars, pacemakers etc. Having a portable, high energy density power source benifits a lot more things than just "electronics".

  10. OMG sulfur is teh stink! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    For Crissakes people, if you own a car you're driving around with a Lead-Acid battery. Guess what type of acid it uses? Sulfuric. As in it has sulfur in it. Does your car smell like farts or rotten eggs? Not unless you're farting in it.

    UPS systems also use AGM (absorbed glass mat) lead acid batteries. Don't smell any farts coming out of your UPS, do you?

    Likewise, no, your laptop or PDA will not smell because of a battery containing sulfur. You'll have to keep blaming your flatulence on the dog.

  11. This means.. by daishin · · Score: 5, Funny

    That Longhorn will be able to run on a laptop more than 30 minutes!

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  12. Could laptops once again be portable? by steve426f · · Score: 5, Interesting

    With gaming laptops weighing in at nearly 10lbs. and a battery life between 50 minutes and two hours, it seems they are less than portable.

    Perhaps the Lithium-Sulfur batteries can provide a reasonable amount of time without adding weight--bringing portability back to laptops. Afterall, all of the wireless technologies are useless when you're tied to an AC outlet.

  13. Re:Fix a different problem... by Trogre · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I still think there's a lot of potential in recyclable computing. Where the bit bucket is wired not to ground, but to a secondary storage like a capacitor.

    Every time a 1 becomes a 0, the battery is charged.
    Every time a 0 becomes a 1, the battery is drained a bit.

    Only when the battery is empty would external power above the recycling overhead be required. I guess the question is whether this can be done while keeping the amount of energy needed for the recycling circuits below the amount of energy saved. /. did an article on this some time last year but I can't find it.

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  14. My Lithium 2 cents by Becho62282 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Okay, I have been working with Lithium Chemistries in batteries for 4 years now as a member of the UMR Solar Car Team (http://solar42.umr.edu).

    First a few things about Lithium based batteries. When they say a cycle life of 300 or 500 cycles that means the 80% thresh hold. In other words at 300 or 500 cycles, the "lifetime" of the battery you will still see 80% capacity when all those cycles are through. That doesn't signify the end of the battery either, we have some LG Chemical Lithium Ions (176 Wh/kg) that are 4 years old and still doing well. The problem is that after 2 years the chemicals inside the battery start reacting and could theoretically internally short, causing a dead battery, fires, or the classic cell phone battery explosion, yes that can happen. For this reason we are going to be disposing of those batteries soon, they pose a chemical hazard, you should also do that after 2 years with your cell phone battery just incase.

    In comparison to Nickels, Li batteries are much better 90-95% charge efficient (what you get out compared to what you put in). Nickels range from 60-75%. They are MUCH more energy dense (175 Wh/Kg - 500 Wh/Kg (theoretical limit I think)) while Nickels range in the 75 Wh/Kg range. And oh yeah Lithiums don't get hot, one crucial issue with Nickel based batteries is the end of charge temperature can hit 150+. Also cycle life is better Nickels can get about 200 cycles before they hit the 80% mark, and well that is only if you treat them very nicely. Lithiums are more forgiving with some missuse (just don't over volt them).

    So all in all Lithium Chemistries are pretty much the best battery format out there now, and for a while too. Lithium is the most energy dense element after all. This is why everyone is switching over to them for just about any serious work. sure cycle life is low, nothing compared to a Lead Acid, but companies are working on that, hell 5 years ago a lithium cell that lasted 200 cycles was impressive now Kokam sells Lithiums with 500 cycles and still 80% life with a starting capacity of over 200 Wh/Kg, roughly 4 times as energy dense as a Lead Acid.

    Thanks for reading if you made it this far.