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Samsung Announces Largest-Ever OLED Display

kaos.geo writes "Samsung announces a 17" OLED display. The article specifies that they are using a laser to 'print' the display instead of the previous 'spraying' methods." 400 lumens isn't shabby. Update: 05/18 23:49 GMT by T : jhealy writes "Seiko Epson, on the heels and light years ahead of Samsungs announcement earlier today, have announced a 40" OLED monitor. Eat that Samsung!"

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  1. Expected delivery at a resonable price. by LPrime · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I am still waiting for the prices of LCD monitors to drop to make it worth the switch from my trusted CRT. Based on what I have seen with the progression of LCDs into the mainstream it will take at least 5 years for something like this to become affordable. By then we will have 3D displays slowly hitting the market.

  2. That might be nice... by LeBlanc_Joey · · Score: 3, Insightful

    for laptops, if there are power savings.

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  3. But wait... by bobhagopian · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The article says "To date, however, problems with device lifetime, chemistry and production have limited their use to mobile devices and backlights." But it does not say that these problems have been completely eliminated. I'd be wary of buying a $2000 display with a lifetime of seventeen minutes.

  4. Competition by manitoulinnerd · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I realize that existing LCD technology is expensive to produce but if im lucky the impending obsolescence of the LCD will drive prices down to where I can afford them. The OLED is amazing though. When you think of all of the possibilities, not just for displays. Think glowing wallpaper, hell it could even display images. Of course this is all dependent on an extreme price drop but the term "computer desk" could have quite a different meaning.

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  5. Re:Missing poins? by jnik · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I'm not sure how a 17" display would be relevant to MP3 or PDA devices. Nor, on the other end, how a display small enough to fit on a pen would be of much use.

    The whole point of this announcement is BIG. BIG means CRT and LCD replacement. I can see more use for a 17" OLED in, say, one of the much-reviled net-enabled refrigerators or similar devices where a large screen and low duty cycle is required.

  6. Re:Decay problems.. by Mr.+Roadkill · · Score: 3, Insightful
    But are the problems of decaying OLEDs fixed now? the first ones only lasted a couple of years if I remember correctly.
    If they get cheap enough, and there's a reasonable recycling program, who cares? Why not consider the optical component a consumable? So long as the initial purchase price plus the cost of a few replacement optical units is less than the purchase price of competing technologies, the consumer wins.

    The only problem with this is that it potentially opens up a whole new product to the "razor handle" marketing model. If we go down this path, I think the best option would be for standards to be set early, so people can make purchasing decisions based on openness of standards and product quality - if you don't care, buy that < insert developing country that undercuts China in price and quality > replacement insert, but if you want the best, buy the Big Brand or Quality OEM one. If it goes the razor or printer way, I guess I could live with it - but I'd much prefer it if it went the same way as the lightbulb.

  7. Lower res though by SuperKendall · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Pixels the size of your fist at that size!!

    Well, not quite, but it's not 1600x1200. And it's meant to be a TV.

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  8. Solution to "lifetime" problem by blair1q · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Now that these things can be printed, make the screen area itself modular, and sell the modules for cheap, way less than $100. Sell the rest of the monitor (body, power supply, connectors, DVI electronics, etc) for a normal monitor price.

    Then, every 2-3 years, when most people upgrade anyway, they can pop out the now-funky-colored screen module, pop in a replacement, and get back to fragging little OLED-sharpened nazis.

  9. DONT MOD PARENT INSGHTFUL, MAYBE FUNNY by orasio · · Score: 2, Insightful

    LCD monitors emit polarized light, if you use polarized glasses, it will be black, not dark, at least most of the times.

  10. Re:Epson 40" by RedWizzard · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Epson wins again...
    Seiko Epson's 40" is a prototype, with commercialization (ie production) expected in 2007. Seiko have not said what the actual production size or resolution will be. Samsung's 17" is also a prototype, but is much closer to production. Size, resolution, and other specifications are already determined and you will be able to buy it next year. the Seiko product is much more vapourous so I give this round to Samsung.
  11. Eat what Samsung? by Traa · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The Samsung OLED is a working prototype of a 17" computer display running at 1600x1200. Product launch will be next year.

    The Seiko Epson is only an anouncment about a 40" TV display that will be productized for 2007 (marketing speak for..."our engineers just laughed at us so we made up some numbers").

  12. Re:contrast is almost moot by magefile · · Score: 4, Insightful

    1600x1200 15" panel perched on my lap right now.

    Is it an OLED? Didn't think so. And if it is, WTF are you doing reading /.? Shouldn't you be off doing something only rich people do?

  13. Power Consumption? by LionMage · · Score: 3, Insightful
    The Samsung press release states:
    It will consume no more power than a 15" display and be a third of the thickness of existing LCD models, the company said.
    But what kind of a 15" display are they comparing against? A 15" LCD display? Hopefully they're not comparing against a 15" CRT display!

    Ideally, OLED displays should be significantly less power-hungry than LCD displays by virtue of not requiring a backlight.

    Personally, I'm looking forward to bypassing the LCD and plasma "revolution," and going straight from CRT to OLED technology for the displays in my home. Considering the heat put out by plasma televisions, and the fact that I live in the middle of Phoenix, Arizona, my air conditioning system will thank me for the transition. And it'll be nice to have a display with a small desktop footprint for my G5 which is also adequate for gaming (and if the color gamut is good, it'll be adequate for Photoshop work too).
  14. Re:contrast is almost moot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    A while back, a Samsung representative explained this in an interview (Anandtech, maybe). Essentially, it all came down to the fact that most consumers were happy with the provided resolutions and it was easier and cheaper to focus on reducing costs and and improving image quality and refresh rates. So that's why we're stuck with such crappy resolutions on desktop LCD monitors.

  15. Re:contrast is almost moot by njh · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The contrast can't be infinite unless the off LEDs reflect no light either. Otherwise the contrast of printed paper would be 0 (no light emitted for either black or white).

  16. yes, you can game with it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Response time for a typical OLED pixel is... get this... 10 microseconds. That's right; microseconds. Compare that to 12 milliseconds for my (very expensive) TFT monitor.... yeah, you can play games with it ^_^

  17. Re:Decay problems.. by anakin876 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    WTF? Bulbs on some of the Barco CRT projectors do run you 400 or 500 bucks. At my university surplus sale you can buy a projector with a burnt out bulb for 75 bucks because it isn't worth it to them to pay for a new bulb. I realize that DLP is different, and that 7.5 cents an hour is insanely cheap (who wouldn't pay say 30 cents a week to watch 4 hours of delightful video?) But many people can't see that, and can't justify the large expense. You are a good example of arrogance gone horribly wrong...let me guess you charged that poor bastard 200 bucks to tell them to turn the damn surge protector back on

  18. Re:Decay problems.. by FireFury03 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Except phone screens are off most of the time and only light up for brief periods when you're using them.