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Slashback: Fairness, Radioactivity, Recovery

Slashback tonight brings you an easy way to let the U.S. Congress know how you feel about fair use, an update to the legend of Elena's Chernobyl motorcycle trip, a twofold resolution to the Freenet Project's PayPal snafu, and more. Read on for the details. A bell to reach your slavish public servants. Cory Doctorow (not just a writer, he's also the EFF's European Affairs Coordinator) writes with a followup to a recent Slashdot story on Boucher's reintroduction of the DMCRA. "I thought I'd mention that EFF has an 'action center' item that lets Slashdot readers (and others) write to their Congresscritter with one click, urging them to support the bill."

Ha, ha, puny earthlings! TinoMNYY24 writes "The Independent broke the story of SpaceShipOne leaving the Earth's atmosphere. The headline of the story is "'SpaceShipOne' becomes first privately funded vehicle to break through earth's atmosphere." One more step towards the X-Prize."

A data recovery success story - please send more. bigdog1 writes "I also had the IBM 75GXP data loss problem reported on slashdot. Like the guy in this article, I was not able to pay someone to do my data recovery. However, I eventually was able to get almost all of my data back using a free program, NTFS Reader. The only problem was that the file names were not in the long format. From now on I am buying an extra hard drive, but has anyone else had success stories recovering their data? Long file names?"

Too little, too late. An anonymous reader writes "I recently e-mailed paypals's public relations department and urged them to restore Freenet's paypal account. Their reply indicates that they have reexamined Freenet's account and decided not to terminate it after all. No news on the freenet project page, but here's paypal's reply:

'I apologize that your concerns were not addressed in the previous email. Our Compliance Department has reviewed The Freenet Project account in question and the service has been fully restored. If you have any further questions, please feel free to contact us again.

Sincerely,
Andrew
PayPal Account Manager'"

ultranova writes "Because PayPal has offered no explanation or apology, the project does not intend to continue advocating its usage, and has migrated to Amazon Honor System."

'Adventure Capitalist' is a much better motorcycle story anyhow. malign writes "Mary Mycio notes that the 'Ghost town' photo essay is probably faked, and notes her reasons. There go my fantasies! :(" Rumors and grumblings to this effect have been around for quite a while, but this seems the most straightforward debunking I've seen of the trip a Ukrainian woman named Elena claimed to have taken through the Chernobyl area.

(We posted two stories about the alleged trip in March.)

Corporate machinations meet the mounties. los furtive writes "The CBC is reporting that HP has agreed to pay back the Canadian Government $146 million that had been defrauded from the Department of National Defense (previously mentioned here). HP claims it was the victim of 'a complex scheme designed to exploit both parties through contracts inherited through HP's merger with Compaq Computer Corp.' In the end they decided it was more appropriate to take action against those responsible and not engage in protracted litigation with the government."

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  1. Possible precedent against "corporate immunity"? by JessLeah · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The HP/Compaq story seems to be implying that they are actually taking action against individual employees of the corporation who were responsible for doing such-and-such, as opposed to HP/Compaq itself.

    This could set a GREAT precedent! As things stand currently, people within corporations can pretty much do whatever they want, while acting in the interest of the corporation, and they'll never see a personal fine or the inside of a jail cell. (Case in point: Bill Gates was never fined or jailed for all the things he did. MS just got a slap on the wrist, but nothing happened to Gates himself.) Maybe now, we'll see some accountability, as people won't simply be able to hide behind their involvement with $BIG_CORPORATION to avoid criminal charges...

  2. Too little, too late... by LostCluster · · Score: 3, Interesting

    PayPal's restoration of Freenet doesn't help at all. It's hard to unring that bell, and Freenet now doesn't want to deal with them anyway.

    PayPal wanted to break their association with Freenet, and they just got what they wanted.

  3. Fake Chernobyl motorcycle trip by Roland+Piquepaille · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The question I have is why did she fake it? I mean, the story says she went in the standard Chernobyl tourist ride with a helmet, in order to fake photos, so it was a deliberate, planned deception.

    So why did she take the pain to do all this? I doubt it's the money, since she didn't sell her story AFAIK, and I doubt she wants to promote some form of radioactive tourism. So, unless she's completely mythomaniac and/or she really really wanted to delude herself that she had made the trip for real, I just don't get it...

    1. Re:Fake Chernobyl motorcycle trip by torpor · · Score: 2, Interesting


      Maybe she didn't fake it, as other posters have pointed out, but her story has had to change, as a consequence of all the attention she has gotten, official and otherwise, in order to protect some of the people whose jobs may well be on the line for having let her do what she did ...

      Either way, I honestly personally do not think that photo-essay was 'faked' any more than any other average 'web site you read on the internet', and the impact it had on my personal reality of the Chernobyl disaster, anyway, was sufficiently supportive of my own personal sensibilities enought that, fact or fiction, that was one good read on a Sunday afternoon. It made me really consider the consequences of our scientific and technological actions, and her essay also provided a great deal of hope for cultural understanding in the future.

      I mean, apart from the odd "TV's Most Scariest Holocaust" re-run, when was the last time whitey thought about the consequences of Chernobyl? If you ask me, April 25 ought to be a World Holiday, and if thats a problem we should get rid of a few of those extra "Queens Birthdays" and "Costco Sellout" holidays, and folks ought to remember nuclear disasters, yearly, together as a united group for one day, lest another one happens for similar reason...

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  4. What about the pictures? by aarku · · Score: 3, Interesting

    So maybe she didn't motorcycle through... but the pictures aren't fake, are they? Are they ripped off from somewhere?

  5. A Swedish tabloid, Aftonbladet, reported... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ...weeks ago that the site was a fake. The story in Swedish is here.

    1. Re:A Swedish tabloid, Aftonbladet, reported... by hpa · · Score: 4, Interesting
      They also state that the cause of the accident had nothing to do with the state of Soviet technology "because the reactor was brand new."

      That is such total bullshit that it's not even funny (and the political comments in the article makes it pretty likely the author isn't the kind of peg flaws on the Soviet system, if you know what I mean.)

      It's not that the Soviets couldn't have built a safe reactor, it's because they chose not to do so. The reactor was most definitely technologically faulty - it failed some of the most basic safety requirements. It was a human error only in that the Soviet authorities ever allowed this reactor design to be built and fuelled.

      So what was this technological flaw? The graphite-moderated reactor has a so-called positive void coefficient, which means that a overheating reactor will speed up the reaction in the core. Western - and some Soviet - reactors have a negative void coefficient, in which an overheating reactor will slow itself down and reach equilibrium.

      That difference, combined with a solid containment, was the chief difference between the Three Mile Island and the Chernobyl accidents. Both were major disasters, but the former was confined to the plant and had economic consequences; the latter spread radioactivity over large parts of Europe and had yet-untold consequences in terms of both human life and environmental destruction.

      A nuclear reactor should not depend on humans doing the right thing for its safe operation, and in the event of a disaster, its safe shutdown. Any reactor that does so is dangerously flawed and technically unfit for operation.

      Unfortunately there is in Sweden a sizable group who has as their political agenda to close down domestic nuclear power, whereas what probably would make more sense is to take the money that would cost and pay for the Russians and Lithuanians to built new plants and shut down the currently operating RBMK (Chernobyl-type) reactors on the Baltic coast.

    2. Re:A Swedish tabloid, Aftonbladet, reported... by Cecil · · Score: 3, Interesting

      That difference, combined with a solid containment, was the chief difference between the Three Mile Island and the Chernobyl accidents.

      While I mostly agree with your post, I don't think that particular comment is exactly true. While there's no arguing that the positive void coefficient was a prerequisite for the chernobyl disaster, Three Mile Island was something quite different. The TMI disaster happened with the control rods fully in. The reactor core was basically idling, and the failure was mainly poor design and monitoring of the cooling system, which spent a good long time spraying radioactive coolant out of a pressure release valve. With all the control rods in, very little of the energy is being produced by nuclear chain reactions, so positive void coefficient does not play a significant role.

      Then again, I am not a nuclear physicist or technician, so I may very well be full of shit.

    3. Re:A Swedish tabloid, Aftonbladet, reported... by mijok · · Score: 3, Interesting

      They also state that the cause of the accident had nothing to do with the state of Soviet technology "because the reactor was brand new."
      I agree, a while ago I saw an interesting documentary (or reconstruction) about the disaster on the Discovery Channel. In addition to the numerous mistakes made in the control room (since the most senior engineer ignored the concerns of the others - and they all had incentive to carry on with the experiment) the very construction was filled with errors. The project manager was only concerned about meeting the deadline (since he got a bonus that way) and didn't care much about the materials used. The roof should've been fire-proof but because the material wasn't available they used some combustible material instead. Furthermore, the design had some fundamental flaws and the engineers in the control room weren't fully informed about the functioning of the reactor.
      I left out the bias from my summary but assuming that you're Swedish you probably noticed the final sentence in the article: "Allt medan Barsebäck reser sin stolta siluett mot Köpenhamn och folkpartiet vill få oss att glömma allt om Tjernobyl." So he most definitely states an opinion as well but I assume that the facts are correct and I think that those are of greater interest to Slashdot readers than Swedish politics... (To those who are, the sentence means: "All of this whilst Barsebäck [A Swedish nuclear plant close to Denmark] raises its proud siluette towards Copenhagen and Folkpartiet [a center-right political party] wants to make us forget all about Chernobyl").

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  6. Re:Chernobyl by AKAImBatman · · Score: 4, Interesting

    At least that explains her stories about all the people who "stayed after the evacuation". There's been a careful, ongoing international study done on the aftermath of the Chernobyl disaster. Her claims just didn't fit the facts of that study.

    Of course, the inconsistencies didn't tip me off either. I just thought that she was stretching things a bit. *shrug*

  7. Re:one click email/fax by wizard992 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'm on a couple of these "fax your representative and senators" alert systems now. I have two feelings on them, either they've opened a new avenue (or rather mass transport for an older one" for communicating with our public servants, or they will just further immunize our representatives from individual opinions.

    Of course the Senators and Congressmen (or thier staffers) are simply adding rules or filters to thier email to shuffle all messages from a "One-Click-Email" system into a folder they never read. Or possibly /dev/null.

    Kudos on the Izzard quote :)

  8. Re:Possible precedent against "corporate immunity" by SuperBanana · · Score: 2, Interesting
    As things stand currently, people within corporations can pretty much do whatever they want, while acting in the interest of the corporation, and they'll never see a personal fine or the inside of a jail cell.

    Are you serious? Look at the Tyco case...Dennis ain't exactly scott free, even if he did have a mistrial.

    DAs are more than happy and able to go after individuals if they have the evidence to do so.

  9. Re:Possible precedent against "corporate immunity" by Stile+65 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Corporate "immunity" has more to do with the shareholders than the employees or management. It simply means that people who bought stock in the corporation and don't oversee/participate in day-to-day functions of the corporation, meaning they had no say in the wrongdoings of people within and on behalf of the corporation, can't be sued for misconduct that they weren't part of. It also means that, should the corporation go into horrible debt, etc. the shareholders can't lose more than they put into the company - their stock value can go no lower than 0.

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  10. So Elena is fake...try this... by i_want_you_to_throw_ · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It's a tour of an abandoned missile silo. Pretty kool. Don't try this at home (well unless your home IS a missile silo).

  11. Re:Chernobyl by tburke · · Score: 3, Interesting

    So if she just carried along a helmet, how did the motorcycle get into some of the pictures? Some other random abandoned Soviet highway? I have no idea if the site is a hoax, but Mycio's post gives me no reasons to think it is. "Motorcycles are forbidden", right, and Russian officials don't take bribes either.

  12. Paypal can suck it. by karmatic · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Well, I gave PayPal a call - I have cancelled all of my accounts. I currently run over $10,000 per year through there, totalling somewhere around $500 in fees (the occasional uncovered chargeback, and lots of small transactions).

    I let them know I would not do business with them(I know several people personally who have had problems with them as well), and I am in the process of switching to YowCow.

    Slight recommendation: don't use SolarPay. I ended up buying a re-branded version of their software, and it is backdoored. No, I won't tell you the backdoor - there are a number of sites still using it.

    1. Re:Paypal can suck it. by karmatic · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The high UID is because I got tired of posting at -1 (too many troll/flamebait mods). As you can see, I'm rather blunt.

      Anyhow, I really don't _care_ if you trust me or not. I could give you the email of my old paypal account - what good would it do?

      Let's see - friend and client FastModz (sells modchips, http://www.fastmodz.com/us/) - lost nearly $5000, because apparently Mod Chips violate the ToS. Legal, or not, PayPal should not have just pocketed the money.

      http://www.lowcostfurnishings.com/ of my other IDs, if it would make you feel better.

      Really want to get to know me? Google is your friend. Yes, every single search resultis about me.

      So, screw you. Who needs karma anyway?

  13. IBM clickers : how I did by denpo · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This might sounds stupid, but I managed to get access to a unreachable IBM click'o'death disk in a very simple way : The drive was installed horizontaly in my PC case, well, tried to run it in a vertical position. Believe me or not, it worked, the disk started fine. I didn't investiguate how long it could still run this way. 15 minutes was all it took me to make a complete disk copy, then it got dumped.

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  14. Re:Too bad about Chernobyl by Rower · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It is still the former soviet union, enough cash in the right hands and I'll bet the ride could be had. Of course you would get the attention of (if your not already dealing with with)the mafia,the police and military. A real adventure if you have the stomach (and cash and connections) for it.

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  15. hard to say... by geekoid · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I am of the opinion that it was probably fakes, but the link does not in anyway disprove her claims.

    In the former soviet union, we fake...unhem..excuse me, almost slipped.

    In Russia(both before and after the fall) Anything can be had for money. I know someone who paid to have there military records marked them as deceased.

    Now the link says:
    " Zone Administration personnel were in an uproar over who approved a motorcycle trip in the zone."

    of course, that doesn't mean she didn't give 100 bucks to the gate keeper. Or that they new about it, and became alarmed because of the media attention.

    "Elena and her husband have changed the Web site and the story considerably in the last few days. Earlier versions of the narrative lied more blatantly about Elena taking lone motorcycle trips in the zone. That has been changed to merely suggest that she does so, which is still misleading."

    That's called covering your ass, and in no way is proof of a fake.

    I wonder what would be good proof that she did it?

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  16. Re:I Don't Think So by Logic+Bomb · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Fact is stranger than fiction: Amazon Presidential Candidates page

  17. Re:Chernobyl by birukun · · Score: 2, Interesting

    She did make reference at one point in her story of a girlfriend that went riding with her - or may be I dreamt of her with another woman? :-)

    Seriously, she did mention it, I have not gone back to see if it is still there, but some shots I think are hard to fake, and if they were, who would spend THAT MUCH TIME to doctor some photos for any purpose.

    BTW, has any questioned anything from the LA or NY Times lately? ;-)

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  18. Re:Chernobyl by flyneye · · Score: 2, Interesting

    looking back over the photos,I can clearly see the motorcycle in many of the photos that certainly appear to be delapidated chernobyl.
    Perhaps the detractor didnt actually look the site over before spewing jealous allegations.Perhaps it has something to do with the husband thing.lol

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