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4km WiFi Range w/ $5 DIY Antenna

Mignon writes "This industrious fellow in New Zealand made his own WiFi antenna using a USB WiFi adapter and a Chinese 'spider skimmer mesh scoop.' He got about 17 dB signal improvement for about US $5 in materials." Update: 05/25 23:09 GMT by T : Reader John Stockdale offers a U.S. hosted mirror of the site. Update: 05/26 13:58 GMT by T : Reader Jared Mauch contributes another mirror.

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  1. What direction? by kdougherty · · Score: 3, Informative

    If it was omni-directional, then I'll be very impressed, but you can make a pringles antenna for very cheap, and get about 10 miles range (line of sight).

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    1. Re:What direction? by kdougherty · · Score: 3, Informative

      You can also make an antenna out of an old tin can, which is very cool and very cheap for all those interested in an effective method for long range. http://www.turnpoint.net/wireless/cantennahowto.ht ml

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    2. Re:What direction? by sbranden · · Score: 3, Informative

      You have to take the cost of the wifi card, pigtail and cable into account. This system is much cheaper because they are not required. It just uses a usb cable (less loss and cheaper than coax), a usb wifi device and a reflector.

    3. Re:What direction? by another_henry · · Score: 4, Informative

      It couldn't possibly be omnidirectional. That would break the laws of physics. To get a boost in signal strength you must either make it more directional or increase the power itself with an amplifier.

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    4. Re:What direction? by lullabud · · Score: 3, Informative

      USB has even better than less loss, it has effectively no loss, since it's not an analog signal and has error checking between the WiFi card and the host controller. This definitely sounds like a cheaper, more efficient solution. Maybe when a mirror is up I'll actually get to see it!

    5. Re:What direction? by j1m+5n0w · · Score: 5, Informative
      It couldn't possibly be omnidirectional. That would break the laws of physics. To get a boost in signal strength you must either make it more directional or increase the power itself with an amplifier.

      "Omnidirectional" is somewhat of a misnomer. Omnis transmit a pancake-shaped signal -- good signal in all directions in the same plane, but very little signal up and down. What you're refering to is called an isotropic radiator.

      -jim

  2. freecache link by rpdillon · · Score: 5, Informative

    There was a story about freecache, but no one here on slashdot ever uses it in stories. Here's a pre-cached link, in case the main NZ server goes up in smoke. http://www.freecache.org/http://www.usbwifi.orcon. net.nz/

  3. Temporary Mirror at Stanford University by jstockdale · · Score: 4, Informative

    http://www.stanford.edu/~jstockdl/tmp/usbwifi.orco n.net.nz/

    Mirrored as much as I could of the images before the server was smoked.

    -S ...

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  4. Unlimited gain! (but it doesn't matter) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    In theory for a transmitting antenna, there is no limit to how much gain you can get. Gain is the ratio of received power to the power you would get with an isotropic radiator. To get gain, you just focus the beam tighter. The limit to how tight you can focus the beam is set by the aperture of the antenna. The gain of a receiving antenna is set by its effective area. Gain isn't hard to get.

    The bigger problem is to get line of sight. At this frequency, if you can't get line of sight, all the gain in the world won't help.

  5. comparing apples to oranges by j1m+5n0w · · Score: 3, Informative

    The super cantenna is only 12 db. 17 is more impressive, and should result in greater range.

    Range itself is hard to compare, as it depends on environment, the radios used (cheap 35 mW? 200 mW with good receive sensitivity?), whether the same antenna is used on both ends, and the subjective evaluation of what exactly constitutes a "useable signal".

    -jim

  6. Re:How Much Do the Commercial Versions Cost? by CaptBubba · · Score: 3, Informative
    Here is a nice list of directional antennas. They aren't exactly exmensive if you are willing to go with an ugly reflector grid model. 15dBi for $40 and 19dBi for $45.

    Also, to those confused about how antenna gain works. The gain is measured in comparison to the output of an isotropic radiator, basically something that puts out the same signal strength in all directions. So that means that any unamped antenna with a gain higher than 1dBi is directional in some sense, because the total radiated power is still the same. So-called omnidirectional antennas really are only omnidirectional in the horizontal plane, if you go up or down their signal strength drops off rapidly.

  7. Re:Why haven't AP manufacturers tried this? by j1m+5n0w · · Score: 4, Informative

    IIRC, the maximum tx power in the 2.4ghz band for unlicensed users is 1 watt, or 4 watts EIRP. For point-to-point links, though, you can trade 1db of power reduction for 3 db of antenna gain, allowing much higher EIRP.

    More info is here

    -jim

  8. Re:Dangers of this kind of ad hoc device by Gaewyn+L+Knight · · Score: 5, Informative

    The device is putting out the radiation... No matter antenna you put on it you don't increase the output of the device. Now you do focus it into a much "hotter" spot when you make it directional. Even so though none of these devices are allowed to excede 1W of effective radiated power (No commercial consumer device currently excedes 250mw).

    To give you an example... You microwave uses 4000 times that much power to cook food with.

    I would imagine if you stood in the beam path of a 20+db antenna for a couple months you would have health issues... but you also wouldn't have a signal :}

    As health risks go a cell phone is a MUCH larger output of power and you stick it right next to your head. Worry about those first :}

    And FWIW cantennas are no better... most directional antennas send most of their power out the front but all of them have sidelobes.

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  9. It's not $5.00, even in your money... by B747SP · · Score: 4, Informative
    As I said already, I built one of these already. My shopping list ran to a bit more than $5.00 though....

    • One 13 inch (the biggest one they had, basically!!!) Dumpling scoop thing from the 'Thai Kee' (chinese, not Thai!) supermarket on level 1 on the Market City shopping centre in Sydney's (Australia) chinatown. Turn right when you enter the shop, they're at the far end of the right-most aisle - AUD$15.85
    • One Netgear MA111 USB/802.11b adaptor from Dan at http://www.usbtech.com.au/ - AUD$69.00
    • One plastic hose joiner thing from Bunnings Hardware (Bunnings == direct copy of Home Depot) - AUD$0.80
    • One adhesive band-aid strip, to cover the gouge I put in my finger trying to cut the hose joiner up the side - AUD$0.00 (stolen from the office medical cabinet)

    I didn't shop around for best price, etc, etc, 'cos I knew that once this thing hit slashdot, there was gonna be a worldwide stockout on the chinese cookware. I could have gotten things a bit cheaper if I had shopped around, but short of an AUD$1200+ aeroplane ticket to Guangzhou and buying direct from manufacturers, there was no way this setup would cost $5.00 of anyone's money. With time and petrol and driving around, I guess it cost AUD$100.00. Good fun tho, and worth every cent.

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  10. Re:So what's to stop you... by lommer · · Score: 3, Informative

    There's nothing stopping you (if you leave out the legal), but it wouldn't be all that useful. While an amplifier would boost your output, it will do nearly nothing to increase the signal that you recieve i.e. you will be speaking louder but the person talking to you will still be speaking at the same volume. You may well ask then how an antenna's gain works out overall then, as you are still basically just boosting the wattage of your signal, not the other guy's. The answer there comes from the directionality of the antenna - while the other guy isn't speaking any louder the directional antenna allows you to filter out the noise coming from everywhere else, making it easier to hear what he's saying. Thus with a directional antenna, you're getting two good effects, while with the amp you're really only getting one. Now, OTOH, if you stuck an amp on your rig AND the other guy's rig, then you'd be talking :-)