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WiFi Lifeline For Nepal's Farmers

bahree writes "BBC is running a pretty interesting story on how yak farmers in the mountains of Nepal, where there are no phones or other means of communication, are using wireless Internet technology to keep in touch with their families, buy/sell livestock and exchange vetinerary tips."

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  1. School of the Air - 21st century style by PHPhD2B · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Mr Pun said they were now looking at ways of using the wi-fi network for distance learning as there is a shortage of qualified teachers in the area.

    This is something that ought to be used in more locales than just Nepal - imagine how this can be put to good use in any underdeveloped nation. Solar-powered WiFi networks and computers, teaching reading and math, and even more advanced topics. Using freely downloaded and distributed learning materials, or learning materials created by teachers.

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    --I am Sun Tzu of the Borg. Resistance is feudal.
  2. Interesting... by LinuxInDallas · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Sounds like these people are very remote. It makes me wonder how they are even getting power for their PCs and network gear. Solar? Generators?

    It's amazing the good that has come out of the internet. This setup may even save someone's life at some point since these people can now "call" for help.

    1. Re:Interesting... by IroNick · · Score: 4, Interesting

      About a month ago I saw a very interesting documentary about camel farmers in Tibet - and yes - they used solar panels and generators to power their satellite dish.

    2. Re:Interesting... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting
      Sounds like these people are very remote. It makes me wonder how they are even getting power for their PCs and network gear. Solar? Generators?

      Generators.

      Remember that the southern border of Nepal is practically at sea level and the northern border has Mount Everest. Add in the fact that monsoon comes every summer and dumps tons of rain on this grand slope for three months. They've got the potential for hydroelectricity coming out the wazoo.

      Hydro doesn't necessarily mean big dams, either. I was a Peace Corps volunteer there in the early eighties and saw the installation of a small hydro plant in our district center. There were no roads to the town; to get there you had to take a 12-hour bus ride, then walk for two days (YMMV--that was me young, in shape, with a 15kg backpack). I believe the design for a small hydropower generator was created by someone working with the Jesuits at St. Xavier's School in Kathmandu, and the generator was made to be broken up into small sections, each carriable by a porter, and reassembled at the site.

      I remember my astonishment coming around the corner and seeing for the first time the lower bazaar lit up at night by electricity. Abhui! Bijuli!

      Since then, the government paid to have a larger project installed (the first was a private venture).

      It's not at all unusual for technology to arrive "out of order" compared to the expectations and experiences of those of us in more-developed countries. In the hills of Nepal, airplanes arrive decades before cars. VCRs before running water. Linux before Windows, we can only hope.

  3. Farmers are actually High Tech nowadays by www.2cups.com · · Score: 4, Interesting

    A common misconception is that farmers are low tech hillbillies. In the real world more the 70 percent of farms are "online". Farmers increasingly use databases of yeild / irrigation / fertilizer to optimize their operations. Same thing goes for ranchers, where the daily milk output of dairy cattle is tracked against the feed going in. When output drops over time, the cow is sold for prize beef (dairy cattle are held to a high standard).
    I would even venture to say that there is a higher percentage of farms that are internet enabled then classical brick and mortar business

    Just my 2 cents
    Colin McNamara
    Senior Network Engineer
    Openwave Systems
    "The difficult we do immediately, the impossible just takes a little longer"

  4. Maintenance? by timgoh0 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Well, this is interesting. Here is some potentially sensitive equipment placed in a rural, relatively inaccessible region. Wonder what happens if something breaks, like, say the transmitter/ap they are using? Forgive me for the paranoid thoughts, but working in support for quite some time, i have learnt that the worst things happen to you when you least expect them.

  5. Re:Hi tech to the service of Mankind? Bleh. by tarunthegreat2 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    High-tech technology is exactly what will help out these places. Simple example. Before the advent of mobile phones in India, there was a waiting list of upto 4 years to get a landline. This bred lots of courruption and black-marketeering. Even once you got a landline, you were at the mercy of the local linesman, who would disconnect your line if you didn't pay him his additional monthly salary (usually a bottle of cheap, local rum/scotch). Further, everytime it would rain, your line would go dead. That meant another bribe. Then one day they decided to launch mobile phone service in India.

    Average time to get a mobile phone connection: 24 hours
    Major Network outages (affecting more than one telecom circle - one circle is roughly the size of a city): ZERO
    Look on linesman's face when he realizes HE's going have to chase after YOU to sell his shitty landline connection: Priceless

    That's one example, since I'm into feeding the Trolls, here's another:
    Electronic Voting in India, which has already been covered in slashdot.
    Technology helps everybody, especially the poor. No you can't feed a honeless person a microchip, but I can promise you that it helps ensure that food reaches that person cheaper and faster than before.

  6. Re:Hi tech to the service of Mankind? Bleh. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    You're an idiot.

    This solution is cheaper than farm equipment which also requires fuel (which is expensive).

    This "hi-tech solution" .. greatly improves the qualkity of life for these people.

    I am originally from a developing country and a lot of my family depend on farming. When the first cell phone was brought into the village ..; people would kline up to use it .. now many have them and use it to talk to family (ask for money?), get medical help, and also get valuable information about supply demand .. as in you find out that someone is purchasing your crops and you take it directly to them ..saving you time/money/energy and reducing waste.

    You have simply no idea how important improved communication is to quality of life.

  7. Amazing... by finker · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This is pretty cool/amazing: People on the top of mountains with WiFi equipment attached to pieces of trees can get high-speed (I assume it's high-speed since the article mentions video conferencing) Internet access. However, at the same time, it's kind of amazing how people in the United States can't even get high-speed Internet access when they're a couple hundred miles from a major city. Does anyone else see anything wrong with this picture? I mean, it's great to see people making these kinds of advances, but this just goes to show you that maybe we need to take a serious jump on to the WiFi bandwagon, or we need to rework some of our existing technologies.

    (P.S. "we" = United States -- Since I don't live anywhere else, I can't speak for anyone else.)

  8. Pretty Interesting by nev4 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I really think there is a large market for WISPs in 3rd world / developing countries. I really want to get involved and learn more about mesh networking, and deploying large scale wireless, etc. Can anyone recommend any good reading on the subject? (I've seen some recent /. articles, but not much else).

  9. Re:Hi tech to the service of Mankind? Bleh. by sakusha · · Score: 3, Interesting
    High-tech technology is exactly what will help out these places.

    Yeah, high tech like metal knives. A friend of mine went to Nepal and was treated like a god because he brought Swiss Army Knives as gifts. Metal mining is considered unclean and miners defile the earth, so miners are an untouchable caste. It should come as no surprise there is virtually no metals industry in Nepal. So even metal knives are relatively rare in Nepal, they have to import them, which is also pretty rare.

    SO, are you getting the picture here? We're talking about a country where goat-herding is a high-tech dream job people aspire to. These people don't need high tech crap like computers, they need high tech crap like metal knives, electric lights, indoor plumbing, refrigerators, vitamins, etc.
  10. Re:no phones or other means of communication,... by frodo+from+middle+ea · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Errr, wrong and very wrong.

    Nepal has never been a part of India, ever, in the history of India's more that 3000 year old civilization.

    Nepal has always been a independant kingdom and India has always respected this, unlike China which attacked Tibet another independant kingdom.

    Nepal has very open border policy with India, and people on both sides of the border, don't need a visa to cross it. But of late this has been used as a gateway by islamic terrorists to enter India and causing some major concerns to Indians.

    Although India respects and recognises Nepal's sovereignity , most nepali's feel that India acts as big brother and almost hate Indians. I remember a case a few years back when One very popular Indian actress who was touring Nepal, was asked "How she felt , being in Nepal ?", said, "I don't even feel I am out of India, It almost feels like Home". This caused riots in Nepal, although ment as a compliment to cultural similarities between the two countries, Nepali population, mistook this as a big brother attitude, and rioted for quite a few days.

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    for the last time people, I am "frodo from middle eaRTH", not "middle eaST".