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Sneak Peek of SF Museum

maxentius writes "Posted on Trufen.net: Paul Allen's Science Fiction Museum and Hall of Fame, due to open June 18, is offering early "Charter Memberships" to a select list of e-mail recipients (and apparently to anyone else who happens to hear about it before the June 5 deadline). The museum will adjoin the Experience Music Project in the very odd Frank Gehry-designed building near downtown Seattle. Allen, a life-long SF fan, has been working on the project for a few years, and it will probably be the same sort of sensory extravaganza as the EMP. The e-mail promises "exclusive access" for Charter Members, including the chance to go to an pre-launch tour and party, a t-shirt, and a limited-edition lapel pin. There are many levels of membership, from "Terran" ($40), through "Hive Mind" ($75), "Replicant" ($500), all the way to "Immortal" ($10,000). It's hard to say just how this will turn out, but with the likes of Greg Bear and Forry Ackerman as advisors, and some interesting ideas, it might be okay."

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  1. donations? by David+E.+Smith · · Score: 4, Funny

    Isn't this Paul Allen, aka "one of the zillionaires from Microsoft," aka "Charter Communications," aka "richer than God" ?

    Why the heck does he need to take donations for this?

    1. Re:donations? by gmuslera · · Score: 2, Funny

      Maybe his Membership category is off the chart, and is called God, Cthulu, Q, etc.

    2. Re:donations? by Haydn+Fenton · · Score: 5, Informative

      Actually, he was forced to resign from Microsoft after being diagnosed with Hodgkin's disease.

      However, he is the owner of the Portland Trail Blazers, the Seattle Seahawks, Rose Garden Arena, TechTV, some Portland radio stations. He runs Vulcan Ventures, created the Experience Music Project. Updated the Cinerama movie theater. Hes one of the principal founders of the SETI project. Founded Asymetrix. Hes the sponsor behind SpaceShipOne, founded the Allen Institute of Brain Science, Project Halo... but yea :-p

      Source: Wikipedia.

    3. Re:donations? by zulux · · Score: 3, Informative

      Paul is also the "gentleman" who bough a summer camp from under the kids, kicked them out, and built a trophy house on the land.

      More info

      It's kinda like an "Ernest goes to Camp" but with a bad ending.

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    4. Re:donations? by Z4rd0Z · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Probably the same reason he needed "donations" from taxpayers to build a new football stadium. He's also trying to get the city of Seattle to build him a new streetcar to the neighborhood he owns.

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    5. Re:donations? by foxtrot · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Hm. So a summer camp sold its land to Paul Allen, and I'm supposed to feel bad that they can't use the land anymore?

      -F

  2. Membership Has Its Benefits: by rwiedower · · Score: 4, Funny

    Here's what you get!

    • Membership card, includes unlimited admission
    • Members-only express entry to SFM
    • 10% discount at the SFM store, both museum and online
    • 10% discount at the restaurant
    • SFM Member Newsletter (quarterly)
    • Science Fiction Author and Events Advance Notice
    • Discount on SFM events
    • Invitations to exclusive members-only events

    A Discount! 10% off! A Membership Card!

    They must think sci-fi geeks are dumber than they...wait, a newsletter too? Sign me up!

    1. Re:Membership Has Its Benefits: by AndroidCat · · Score: 3, Funny

      If it's anything like the Royal Ontario Museum, you also get perpetual calls and letters to renew your membership after it expires.

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    2. Re:Membership Has Its Benefits: by jackb_guppy · · Score: 2, Funny

      Only lowly label pins?

      Where are the life sized posters of 3 breasted moon-maidens?

    3. Re:Membership Has Its Benefits: by CGP314 · · Score: 5, Funny

      The real reason to become a member is the invitations to the exclusive members-only events. Just think of all the hot chicks who'll be there... or perhaps not.


      -Colin

    4. Re:Membership Has Its Benefits: by AndroidCat · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Don't laugh. The Royal Ontario Museum was promoting their singles night activities. That could work well for the SF museum too. You get to meet singles in non-pressure group activities. The people will tend to be smart, off-beat, and can afford the membership.

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    5. Re:Membership Has Its Benefits: by Cruciform · · Score: 4, Funny

      Just think of what an SF event would be like though.

      A woman walks past, and the men approximate the flocking AI of a bad first person shooter.

      It would look like pigeons squabbling over a muffin.

    6. Re:Membership Has Its Benefits: by Tumbleweed · · Score: 3, Funny

      Hey, if they _really_ want to get nerds to sign up fast, they should make sure the membership cards are numbered. *evil grin*

  3. Ackerman's collection? by cmpalmer · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I see that Forry is an advisor, but I didn't find anything in a quick RTFM that says how much of his collection made it into the museum. Does anyone know?

    I know that he had to sell off some due to health and legal costs and it destroyed my dream of visiting the Ackermansion, which I'd wanted to do since reading Famous Monsters starting about 30 years ago.

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    1. Re:Ackerman's collection? by KC+Swan · · Score: 2, Informative

      I doubt that very much made it to Seattle. 4SJ didn't sell off "some", he was forced to sell off damn near everything. He was left with a small collection of items of special value to himself.

      There are people, like Paul Allen, who were in a position to buy the whole collection. None of them did a thing.

  4. SF Museum? by Realistic_Dragon · · Score: 3, Funny

    Isn't that a bit like an inflatable dartboard?

    At least they can have a display about all the broken flying car promises.

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    1. Re:SF Museum? by k4_pacific · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yeah, I thought the future was supposed to cooler than this. I mean, sure we have digital cameras and cell phones. But then we ran out of new ideas and started combining things. Hence, the "camera-phone". It's 2004 dammit. I want a teleporter!

      On a related note, a coworker of mine has one of those camera-phones. He sent me a picture of his ear.

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  5. Charter Membership Gets You by rwiedower · · Score: 3, Funny
    • Charter Member Lapel Pin
    • Charter Member SFM T-Shirt

    Now I'm really sold. If it's a "limited time offer" it must be really, really, cool. What would sci-fi be without free lapel pins...for our lapels?

  6. Wow by stanmann · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Are these memberships annual or lifetime, that was the only thing I couldn't find on the site.

    I'm not close enough that an annual membership would be any value, but lifetime I would get all over that... prolly android level in case I have kids.

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  7. I heard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    the guy who made his own Tron costume is cutting the ribbon at the opening.

    1. Re:I heard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      I won't say how I know this, because people will get fired. But here's some stuff you can expect to see inside.

      SEVERAL camera-models of the USS Enterprise (Origional AND TNG)
      The severed T-800 arm from Terminator 2
      A T-800 head from Terminator 2
      A recreation of the Bridge set from the origional Star Trek using as many origional set pieces as they could find (Including the actual Captains Chair)
      Guns, Phasers, and Accessories(5th Element, Blade Runner, Star Treck, Star Wars, Robo Cop, etc.)
      THE Power Lifter from Alien (yes, it's FULL SIZED and completly articulated)
      The complete "Big Bitch" alien from Aliens (she's something like 17 feet tall, and also completly articulated)

      And that's just a small sample. If you're into effects producion, Seattle's the new Mecca (deepest apologies to any Muslum readers)

  8. More membership levels by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    There are many levels of membership, from "Terran" ($40), through "Hive Mind" ($75), "Replicant" ($500), all the way to "Immortal" ($10,000).

    What can I get for 1$? "Oompa Loompa"? "Ugnaught"?

    Can I get "Q" for a million bucks? How about "Operating Thetan"?

    1. Re:More membership levels by mikael · · Score: 4, Funny

      What can I get for 1$? "Oompa Loompa"? "Ugnaught"?

      "Amoeba" ($1)

      "Bacterium" ($0.50)

      "Virus" ($0.01)

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    2. Re:More membership levels by AndroidCat · · Score: 2, Informative
      How about "Operating Thetan"?

      You don't have go there for that. It will soon come to you! :)

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    3. Re:More membership levels by Otter · · Score: 3, Funny
      What can I get for 1$? "Oompa Loompa"? "Ugnaught"?

      Jar-Jar, I think. And for the million bucks, Marina Sirtis will let you touch her hair.

    4. Re:More membership levels by minotaurcomputing · · Score: 2, Funny

      This is a SciFi museum that we are talking about, so the categories you mentioned need to be adjusted to:

      Giant Amoeba ($1)

      Space-born Bacterium ($0.50)

      Virus - The Movie ($0.01)

      -m

    5. Re:More membership levels by CGP314 · · Score: 4, Funny

      "Atom" ($1*6.022*10^-23)

    6. Re:More membership levels by nucal · · Score: 2, Funny

      "Quark" - 1 bar of gold pressed latinum

  9. if only... by solarlux · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Now, if only more geeks could get rich. We'd have more SETI telescopes, sci-fi museums, space project funding....

  10. nicely emblematic of an era by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Let's face it, boys (and most of you are boys), we've had it. Computers aren't cool anymore. The next big fortunes will be made in biotech or something else, and the suits have taken control of the industry.
    We're not going to see geeks (what's that you say? he's a bigshot at Microsoft so he's not a geek? yeah, business types use their spare cash to fund a *science fiction museum*) rich enough to fund scifi museums again. So we might as well smile and remember the late 90s, when computer people actually were hip, as we work overtime for piddling salaries until our jobs are finally sent to India.

    1. Re:nicely emblematic of an era by AndroidCat · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Computers aren't cool anymore.

      I can live with that. When I was soldering my first computer, they thought Dukes of Hazzard and CB radios were cool.

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  11. Replicant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Nice. Pay $500 to be labelled a 'Replicant'

    1. Re:Replicant by AndroidCat · · Score: 3, Funny

      Does the 5th replicant get any special deals?

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  12. Coincidence? by Anne_Nonymous · · Score: 5, Funny

    >>" Terran" ($40), through "Hive Mind" ($75), "Replicant" ($500), all the way to "Immortal" ($10,000)

    Those are the "membership" levels for Scientology too, except the prices are all off by two orders of magnitude.

  13. A who's who - comments by jackb_guppy · · Score: 3, Informative

    Greg Bear
    Forrest J. Ackerman
    Robin Wayne Bailey
    Betty Ballantine
    Astrid Anderson Bear - Daughter of Poul Anderson / Wife of Greg Bear
    Gregory Benford
    Jeff Bezos
    Ray Bradbury - this shows taste
    David Brin
    Charles Brown - A cartoon?
    Octavia Butler - I like her work
    James Cameron - give me a break!!!
    Orson Scott Card - Ender was it
    Arthur C. Clarke - nice ideas but fluffy
    Freeman Dyson - the creater of sphere!
    Harlan Ellison - yes!!
    James Gunn
    Ray Harryhausen
    David Hartwell
    Tim Kirk
    Lawrence Krauss
    George Lucas - twenty years way past his prime
    Syne Mitchell
    Dennis Muren
    Kim Stanley Robinson
    Majel Barrett Roddenberry - I know still running the "Great Bird" business, but have you seen some of the lastest works?
    Stanley Schmidt
    Steven Spielberg - Not SciFi - pretty pictures
    Neal Stephenson
    Gary Stiffelman
    Phil Tippett
    Bjo Trimble
    Michael Whelan
    Jane Yolen

    1. Re:A who's who - comments by Daniel+Dvorkin · · Score: 2, Informative

      Whether you like their work or not, all of the individuals listed have had enormous influence on the field. The museum should include people important in the history of SF, whatever their roles, just as, e.g., history museums should include exhibits on people who did both Really Good and Really Bad things.

      BTW, Charles Brown is the editor of Locus, one of the most influential magazines in the SF field. He's not famous, but he's got a lot of pull.

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  14. Dontated new Seattle Library by mackermacker · · Score: 5, Informative

    Allan was also the largest contributer of the New Seattle Library that opened up this week. I have to hand it to him, his money went to good use.

    Not only it is an architectural masterpiece, but it has 11 floors with ramps that gradually wrap down to the bottom levels, and an ingenious system for finding books easily. Combined with the RFIP chips in all the books, along with the conveyor system that automatically scans and sorts the books, it is another great masterpiece, financed by the big man.WIFI for the entire building doesnt hurt either :)

  15. Slashdot subscribers by goldspider · · Score: 3, Funny
    "Hive Mind" ($75)

    Are Slashdot subscribers are exempt from this fee?

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  16. It should travel the world by colonist · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Hopefully it will be like traditional museums, and lend items out for exhibitions around the world.

  17. EMP design by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    The design of this building came from the cutting up of several Fender Stratocaster guitars. Although I don't see the resemblance much in the finished product. :)

    My company did the structural steel portion of this project and let me tell you it's amazing. The building was litterally a finished handbuilt model on a desk, then digitized into a computer using a device similar to this. Much of the design work was then done with Catia. I thought I new 3D when I started this project this pushed the limits of our knowledge, workstations and server storage way beyond. When we got ahold of the models we developed the connections and members in 3D and finally onto shop drawings using AutoCAD.

    When visiting the museum a couple years ago we got the back stage tour. You would not believe the amount of computer and sound horse power in that place. They stuck servers rooms where ever there was space and nice setup's too.

    Probably one of the neato things we learned was about one of the drywallers. You see we were walking through all those back hallways and kept noticing amazing artwork drawn or painted just on the walls. Many face portraits of Hendrix. One of us asked "Is this hallway public access?", to which our guide answered "No." So then we asked what was up with all this expensive looking artwork. He told us Paul Allen was touring the project during construction and noticed the same thing. He asked who was going around making pencil sketches all over the walls of his building. They figured out that it was this one drywall guys and Paul asked for him to come and see him. Paul told him to go tell his boss he just quit, then to come back and get the details on his new job for more artwork! Can you imagine?! "Honey, I'm home! I got a raise!"

  18. memberships by FrivolousPig · · Score: 3, Funny

    Please tell me who wants to be labelled "Artificial Intelligence" after spending 1,000 bucks?

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  19. New Serfdom by ThatGuyInTheHole · · Score: 3, Insightful

    While it is nice that Allen donated this money, does anyone else see what is going on here? Corporations are soaking their workers, and the US population by not paying taxes. Their bringing in exorbitant profits, and yet we thank them when they give a little back to us. It was nice that Enron, after ripping off the state of California, gave Houston Enron field. Ken Lay obviously has a good heart. This is just a new form of serfdom where our labor is taken, and we're given new shiny things to play with worth a fraction of our excess. Vil

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  20. Science Fiction Hall of Fame by KC+Swan · · Score: 4, Informative

    I'm sure some readers are sure that Paul Allen is just out to rape the SF world. Here's a true story that I hope will cast this project in a positive light.

    There already is a Science Fiction Hall of Fame. It was started several years ago, sponsored by the Kansas City Science Fiction and Fantasy Society (KaCSFFS) and the Center for the Study of Science Fiction at the University of Kansas. Financial backing was primarily provided by KaCSFFS, with the bulk of the money raised in a benefit auction each Memorial Day weekend at ConQuesT. KU has never really embraced the SFHoF, declining to even provide a place to hang the plaque listing all the inductees.

    Along comes Paul Allen and his project. Now, they could have very easily said "screw you, we'll do our own Hall of Fame!" But they didn't. Instead, they are taking over the Hall of Fame, with full acknowledgement of the history of the existing hall and inductees. After the 2004 induction ceremony, held at the Campbell Conference, responsibility for the Hall will be transferred.

    Is this some huge financial windfall for KaCSFFS? No, we aren't getting a penny out of the deal. What we are getting is the acknowledgement of our past efforts, and the comfort of knowing that future inductions are going to be done by a group with the money and PR presence necessary to do it right.

    Do you know who has been inducted in the past? Probably not. Our efforts have mostly fallen on deaf ears in the media. But I suspect that when the 2005 inductees are announced, you'll see the story on Slashdot!

  21. Expanded who's who --was Re:A who's who - comments by Jack+William+Bell · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Expanded who's who (my comments in parens).

    Greg Bear -- (Local Seattle hard-SF writer and all-around nice guy)

    Forrest J. Ackerman -- (If you don't know who he is, don't bother reading on)

    Robin Wayne Bailey -- (Don't know)

    Betty Ballantine -- (Local Seattle SF BNF [Big
    Name Fan], well know for her belly dancing workshops and ability to sing anything in Klingon [not to mention being the only person I know that can sing the cantina scene song from 'Star Wars'])

    Astrid Anderson Bear -- Daughter of Poul Anderson / Wife of Greg Bear (and organizer of this years Nebula awards)

    Gregory Benford -- (Hard SF writer and physicist)

    Jeff Bezos -- (You already know this one)

    Ray Bradbury -- this shows taste (agreed)

    David Brin -- (SF writer and iconoclast)

    Charles Brown -- A cartoon? (No, the editor and publisher of Locus, the top-rated magazine about the SF biz)

    Octavia Butler -- I like her work (You had damn well better, she is a nice lady; also now local to Seattle)

    James Cameron -- give me a break!!! (agreed)

    Orson Scott Card -- Ender was it (If you say so)

    Arthur C. Clarke -- nice ideas but fluffy (Eh? 'The City at the Edge of Forever' fluffy?)

    Freeman Dyson -- the creater of sphere! (and way more; I can listen to him talk for hours, too bad the Dyson Sphere is all people think of when they hear his name)

    Harlan Ellison -- yes!! (No!!! Unless, that is, you are the kind of person who slows down to look at car wrecks)

    James Gunn -- (SF writer, not too well known anymore)

    Ray Harryhausen -- (stop-motion animator of many a SciFi film and director, not too well known anymore)

    David Hartwell -- (SF writer and major name editor)

    Tim Kirk (Tolkien artist)

    Lawrence Krauss (Science writer, wrote 'Physics of Star Trek' among other things)

    George Lucas -- twenty years way past his prime (uh, yeah...)

    Syne Mitchell -- (Local SF writer, fairly new but promising)

    Dennis Muren -- (don't know)

    Kim Stanley Robinson -- (Bay area SF writer best known for his Red/Green/Blue Mars trilogy which, if sold by weight, would have made him rich)

    Majel Barrett Roddenberry -- I know still running the "Great Bird" business, but have you seen some of the lastest works? (Roddenberry had some good ideas, but taking every thing he ever scratched on a napkin and making it into a series is dumb; plus Rick Berman has completely destroyed Roddenberry's best work anyway)

    Stanley Schmidt -- (SF writer and editor)

    Steven Spielberg -- Not SciFi - pretty pictures (well, he did do 'AI'; never mind, that isn't a reccomendation)

    Neal Stephenson -- (Local Seattle SF writer and 'recluse' [OK, not really], currently taking the crown for heaviest trilogy)

    Gary Stiffelman -- (don't know)

    Phil Tippett -- (Animator and filmmaker)

    Bjo Trimble (Somewhat local SF writer)

    Michael Whelan (SF artist of consummate skill)

    Jane Yolen (SF writer)

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  22. Re:Expanded who's who --was Re:A who's who - comme by RobotRunAmok · · Score: 2, Informative

    Arthur C. Clarke had nothing to do with "City...", but is rather a SF visionary in his own right (The "Rama" books, et. al.) In fact, the "Clarke Belt" -- the distance above the earth through which satellites travel yet retain their relative geo-stationary locations -- was first prognosticated by and later named after him. However, if you _do_ like "City...", you might be interested in knowing that it was penned by Harlan Ellison, for whom apparently you have little use.

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