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MandrakeMove 2 And Mandrakesoft Profit Reports

Mad_Rain writes "Two new developments in the Mandrake Linux camp: For the beta-testers and live-cd crowd, MandrakeMove 2 (which is based on Mandrake 10) is undergoing beta testing. 2.6 Kernel anyone? Financially, Mandrake seems to be improving, as they cite a report from EuroLand Finance about how they compete with Red Hat or SUSE, at least in the marketplace (as opposed to on the desktop)."

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  1. About Time for a new Mandrake live CD by goorath · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I've been waiting for a new Mandrake Move to show off to those who haven't converted to Linux yet. I've found that a lot of people have been amazed by demonstrations of Mandrake Move. (particularly Tux racer - but thats another story!)

  2. Re:MandrakeMove by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    I've never used MandrakeMove so I don't know how it's done but I know that you can store your /home partition(which is where your setting are kept well most of them anyway) on a USB keychain with Knoppix.

  3. What is MandrakeMove you ask? by riptide_dot · · Score: 5, Informative

    The link in the parent wasn't too clear on what MandrakeMove actually was, so here is a different link about it that describes what it is a little better (the original link is to the download page).

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    1. Re:What is MandrakeMove you ask? by MagicFab · · Score: 4, Informative
      Use BitTorrent.
      1. Download a ButTorrent client. I'd recommend Azureus
      2. Open this URL (as listed on the download link in the post)
      I frequently get 200kbps to 300kbps from a BitTorrent feed instead of ~100kbps for the best ISOs mirrors. And I contribute my miserable bandwidth for others to enjoy Mandrake :)
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    2. Re:What is MandrakeMove you ask? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Download a ButTorrent client

      Have you had any luck with ButTorrent? Rumor has it that it uses a backdoor.

  4. Re:MandrakeMove by jarich · · Score: 5, Informative
    What are you talking about?

    Knoppix will store your config info on a USB drive, a hard drive, a zip drive, etc... and all from a GUI.

    It's nice that Mandrake will as well, but Knoppix has been doing this for a while.

  5. Re:Is it downloadable or only buyable by Timesprout · · Score: 4, Funny

    I have been trying to download Mandrake 10.0 for everyone, and it keeps dying at 98%.

    Well you dont need to download a copy for me, I already have one so that should get you to about 98.00000000000001%

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  6. Re:MandrakeMove by crackshoe · · Score: 4, Funny

    wheres condescending +1 when you need it?

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  7. Flashy Financial Analysis by John+Hurliman · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I like the flashy presentation, the "ooh look over here!" aspect, and how they seamlessly tied the financial forecasts in with the real data, but I'm not sure I would take that analysis as a reason to invest. Most of it consisted of "Mandrake is losing less money than Novell, that's gotta count for something". That and the strong growth forecasted, while their debt ratio continues to climb.

  8. Re:Is it downloadable or only buyable by DrLZRDMN · · Score: 4, Informative

    If you buy it from Mandrake it's something like $55 and thats the power pack which has some propietary software. My best advice would be to but from almostfreelinux.com, It's $8.95 for 4 CDs with free shipping. I think it's a good way of getting it because it's a reasonable price and it dosen't take too long. I',m not sure about the Live Cd though..
    NOT Spam just information

  9. Re:Is it downloadable or only buyable by jeoin · · Score: 2, Funny

    I don't care if they mod it down. Little buddie nerds. Its the only power they have. I am trying to get a real issue on the board and it gets turned down just so people don't see it. Thats fine. It shows their true intent is not much different than microsoft.

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  10. The best thing... by ErichTheWebGuy · · Score: 4, Informative

    about MandrakeMove is the fact that it can automatically store your personal data on a USB keychain. Not that SuSE Live, Knoppix, etc. cannot, but MdkMove makes it so damned easy to make a *truly* portable personal desktop system.

    Kudos, Mandrake, for another great product.

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  11. I hope they are showing a profit! by chrispatch · · Score: 3, Informative

    I hope they are showing a profit!
    I joined their mandrake club to download the iso's and give them a little support. They charged my credit card $6600.00 for a standard membership. They did not answer their phones. I had to dispute the charges through my credit card company. In their defense they did reverse the charges a few days later. But boy was I worried for a few days!

    1. Re:I hope they are showing a profit! by Azureflare · · Score: 4, Informative
      Yeah, if you read the notice that was on mandrakeclub.com a while ago, you would have known that it wasn't Mandrake's fault, but the company they were using to process credit cards; apparently they had a bug in their software multiplying all transactions by 100.

      Read more at the press release here.

  12. Re:MandrakeMove by marsonist · · Score: 5, Informative
    I wrote a review of mandrake move at linuxquestions.org and here is a snippit that explains how the mandrake usb configs differ from knoppix et al... MandrakeMove points your FSTAB point /home to your USB key. All files are written directly to the USB keys FAT filesystem. I find this great because it is possible to easily view and access all home directory files from any other computer. Other bootable distros like to create .img files which 1) are difficult to view on other computers and 2) force you to predict the size of your home directory.... use to little and you haven't enough space, use too much and the you eat space from the rest of the USB key.

    Mandrake Move creates 2 things on the USB Key. A folder named after the user you created on first boot (AKA: home directory) and a "dotfolder" hidden directory which contains your each computers individual setup. The latter of the two I find quite interesting. It appears that MandrakeMove has some sort of hardware hashing algorithm that allows it to come up with a unique ID for each computer that it is used in. When I use it on my laptop all of the hardware configurations for my laptop are used (resolution, printer, etc...) When I use it at work all of the configurations form my work computer are used. (NVidia drivers and all) I found that to be an outstanding feature that goes above and beyond most bootable distro's use of USB keys. As for the Home directory, it works as one might expect. All desktop and program configurations as well as personal files are stored there. When I play Chromium at work (...shhhh) the last level completed is stored, so when I go home I can start at my last completed level. Mail settings are saved, desktop preferences.... the whole works. It really feels like a full blown desktop moving with you.

  13. I came, I saw, I left by whitis · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Maybe if they improved their website they could actually make some money?

    I could not find answers to simple questions with a reasonable amount of effort.

    Q) What is Mandrake move vs. mandrake 10? I actually had to come back to slashdot to find a link with the answer to this one. It is a
    standalone live CD-ROM version of linux.

    Q) How much does it cost? I actually had to click on the order link, fill in my state and country,
    and sort through a bunch of irrelevent products and I still didn't get an answer. I know how much it costs with a keychain USB flash memory ($70-$330) but I don't know how much it is by itself. Price needs to be listed before you hit the shopping cart.

    Q) Free downloads? Well, if you click on downloads it looks like you could probably
    download it for free (if the ftp server wasn't /.ed) but you have to click the button that
    says something to the effect of "I am already a member of the mandrake club or I plan to join real soon now". So you either need to join the club (about $70/year) or promise to join the club before you can download. I don't have the slightest intention of joining their club unless I find the software useful and shouldn't be required to state otherwise. Plus it reminds me of those sleazy subscription cards for magazines: "Yes! I want to subscibe to the worlds greatest basketweaving magazine! Send me one year (12 exciting issues) of basketweaving today for just $17.97. I'll save 62% plus I'll receive the basketweaving 101 book FREE!"

    1. Re:I came, I saw, I left by smoker2 · · Score: 2, Informative

      A1) http://www.mandrakesoft.com/products/range
      Pretty simple and standard linkage really.

      A2) Its free if you dload it ! What else do you need to know ? Or just join the damn club !

      A3) Where do you have to _promise_ anything ?

      Before downloading our products, we ask for your support by joining the Mandrakelinux Users Club.(my bold)

      You came, you saw, you left, bereft ! Shame.

  14. Re:Is it downloadable or only buyable by entitude · · Score: 2, Informative

    You didn't pay for Mandrake, so your "Mandrake charges 66 per year" argument is completely irrelevant. If you can't download it, then you can't install it, so you obviously don't know if it works, or not. If you're having problems with Mandrake, read the friendly web, or drop in at Linux Questions.org. If you actually want any help, send me a private message over in the Linux Questions.org forums; my user name is "Brian of Gep", without the quotes.

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  15. Re:Is it downloadable or only buyable by 0racle · · Score: 2, Insightful

    So let me get this straight, you have XP, 2 support incidents for free, NO software, NO development tools, and it seems you think that MS is the devil, and you pay $150 for this pleasure, yet you whine about the choice of free with community support or $66 for a years support in addition to the community support, with thousands of applications and more development tools then you can shake a stick at.

    Between us, where you believe every Linux company should bend over, kiss your ass and give everything to you on a silver platter and if they don't they're as evil as MS, or me who actually understands that people have to put food on their families table which means shipping a product that costs money, how am I the one holding Linux back. It seems that if it were up to you, there would be no Linux business to be held back.

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  16. Mandrake by LibrePensador · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I am very impressed with Mandrake 10 Official. I will not engage in the my distro is better than yours game. Use whatever you want. No distribution is perfect. Do realize that your judgment might be clouded by which distribution you learned linux on.

    All I have to say is that Mandrake makes a very secure server and a very easy to use desktop and they do so with a GNU smile on their face.

    I will make however a few historical comments:

    *Have you tried rpmdrake and used it to create Raid Arrays or LVM volumes? Look up how many years they have had such a tool and compare it to other distributions.

    *Research which distro first used CUPs and made it easy to use multi-function devices in Linux?

    *Research which distribution has a zeroconf/Rendevous in it for a while

    *Have you tried their server wizards, which they have had for years?

    *Research urpmi when you get a chance. It is a good as Debian's apt, which is the installer by which all other ought to be measured. And even though apt-for-rpm is now available, it isn't as good as either of the above, not to mention that these have yet to be formally embraced in an officially shipping product by either Novell or Red Hat.

    If you can afford to send Mandrake a few bucks, do so.We need more companies like Mandrake around. If anything, it will keep both Red Hat and Suse honest.

    Ps: Oh.oh.. That Stallmanite reference will drive all of the anti-RMS cloud out of the closet :)

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  17. Isn't MANdrake a sexist name? by baywulf · · Score: 3, Funny

    Should be changed to Persondrake to be politically correct.

  18. Mandrake Move v. Knoppix by WoodstockJeff · · Score: 3, Informative
    I've used both, and I've found that Knoppix finds more of the hardware on my systems, but Mandrake Move is MUCH faster on the same hardware.

    Granted, my test is disk-related... I use both Knoppix and MM to run badblocks on drives before I install their final OS. But, on the same hardware, Mandrake Move will run 'badblocks -svw /dev/hda' to completion (4 write/read passes with different patterns) in less time than the first pass in Knoppix 3.3 or 3.4. That's a significant time savings when you're checking 8 250GB drives for a RAID array!