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60GB iPod Coming?
An anonymous reader writes "Toshiba today announced that it will offer a 60GB version of its 1.8-inch hard drive in the coming months and that Apple has already placed its order. Cindy Lee, deputy manager of Toshiba's hard disk drive division, said the drive will enter mass production during July or August. All three iPod models (15GB, 20GB, and 40GB) use Toshiba drives, while the iPod mini uses a 4GB 1-inch drive from Hitachi. Lee noted that Toshiba is currently shipping 350,000 of the 1.8-inch drives per month to Apple."
I can;t even fill my 30Gb Nomad. What the hell are you going to do with 60Gb?
I'm in the process of "reripping" my entire CD collection at the moment. I've got the extra space, so why should I be listening to 128kbps MP3 files ripped in 1999?
will this bring a price drop to the smaller capacity iPods?
The Technonaut
for those complaining about not being able to fill the HD, the easiest way to use the space is to reencode the music you already have.
just with some quick calculations i did on my own, saving your music as in a lossless format uses approx. 5x as much space as a 256kb MP3.
so only 12GB of mp3's will give you your 60GB of music.
first, there are a lot of people with more than 40 gigs of music.... second, the iPod is also a firewire drive. it can be used for transporting large files (graphics, audio, video, whatever). it is also possible to boot off of OS X installed on the iPod, so you can dump your whole HD on there. The early lists of 10.3 features mentioned a feature called "home on iPod" that later vanished. it seemed you could copy/sync your whole home dir onto your ipod and login to it from any OS X running Mac. if that's really coming, the more space for music AND home dir, the better.
A not-unreasonable collection of CDs compressed with FLAC would be pressing the limits of a 60 Gb drive. When you consider lossless audio (or near-lossless like high-kbps mp3/aac), the large drive sizes are quite reasonable. If you only listen to 128kbps pop singles, fine by me, but don't go around raining on other people's parades. If you don't need it, don't buy it, and market pressures will adjust production accordingly
Not wanting to reply to trolls but just in case anyone actually believes this crap, UFS the filesystem used by BSD systems. If Apple are indeed using this filesystem for the iPod (and it is included in OSX), I'm sure they would be using one of the many BSD implementations and wouldnt bother ripping off a GPL one illegally.....
Not reading the article I can understand, but not reading the fucking summary?
Toshiba today announced that it will offer a 60GB version of its 1.8-inch hard drive in the coming months and that Apple has already placed its order.
It's hard to be religious when certain people are never incinerated by bolts of lightning.
Not yet, but I'm reaching the high-end of 40GB, and since there's no 41GB drives, that leaves me going for a 60GB unit.
I'm sure lots of people only have 10GBs of music like yourself, but many of us are going with significantly higher bitrates, and music libraries are growing fast...
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I'd guess he's not encrypting them because they're family photos, but just because he encrypts all his backup data. I do the same, just on general principles--it may be overkill, but better overkill than underkill, no?
I disagree. Through the millenia that humans have been around the diagnosis and treatment for diabetes is fairly new. From a biological stand point when you get something like diabetes, it's time for you to check out and no longer contribute to the gene pool, but we've evolved to make it so that isn't a problem.
Music on the other hand, has been around longer than medicine. It could be considered entertainment, but it's a very important facet of human life. Almost everyone listens to music in one form or another, it's something that keeps us from going insane with boredom. I'd say it's more important than insulin.
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If you have that much music available, I would think you have something like $10,000 worth of CDs.
:)
A $500 iPod is pocket change.
Cheap insurance, especially if you keep your CDs in a safety deposit box
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As for the "hipster image", well, that's marketing and it's how they sell iPods. Most slashdotters may see it as disappointing that successful products aren't sold on specs. But the dominant group of consumers don't care. They'd much rather have something that's well culturally regarded ("hip") that they can figure out and utilize without too much effort. This is what Apple does and that's why they're so successful with this product. Also be glad that you can get what you want in the iHP 120. But it's unreasonable to expect Apple to market directly to a niche like geeks with the iPod.
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I currently have a full 120G drive on my PC. Granted, it's mostly FLAC files that won't work on an iPod, but when I finally DO break down and buy a portable it will have to support SOME lossless format.
Ideally my portable would be large enough to store a "backup" of my entire CD collection. That way I can take it with me and free up the space on my computer.
I own and have ripped nearly three hundred CDs and have about 400 more on MP3 alone. This is after selling the ones that I don't like, which isn't many.
I listen to all of them. Maybe not all of them on a regular basis, but I can't think of one that I'd be willing to say "I'm OK not listening to that ever again"
It's nice having a big chunk of that library be able to travel around with me.
While I'm certainly not everyone, there are people out there with even more than me. Just because most people are fine with a few hundred favorite songs, or a few dozen favorite albums, doesn't mean everyone is.
Also, how many 60 GB external harddrives let you play music? There may be more economical solutions out there, but the ipod is more likely to be in your pocket when you need it, and the two birds with one stone factor is pretty big for some people.
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In addition, any of the modern Macs can also boot off the iPod as well.
Yes, but...
The iPod really isn't intended to run the drive continuously.
-jcr
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What exactly is stupid about it? Players with DRM, such as the iPod, and the Creative players, can play files without DRM. Players without DRM, on the other hand, cannot play files with DRM (without hacking or kludging).
Hence, the players with DRM provide the most flexibility.
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He tries to pass off that he was working hard for seven years, but he knows deep down it is bunk. He owned a company, Redhat bought it for a large wad of cash. Redhat in turn was not worth its huge IPO value and this guy is now rich off off the bad decision of some stupid, trendy stock investors. He is one lucky guy and he knows it. This is why he is doing philanthropy if he does any at all, to ease his conscious.
Hard work is not owning a company and then getting lucky enough to retire after having your company bought out. Philanthropy is a disease on the conscious of the rich. To be fair, if he is being honest, most rich people just throw money to charities and various "causes" and consider that philanthropy, doing no real hands on philanthropy like he claims he does.
I went to the Apple Store SF last week (it's more like a cathedral of Apple, really - a clean, white, well-lit cathedral to adore sleek designs... anyway).
They had some iPod minis coming in. Buying frenzy ensued, and the color ones (blue only) were sold out in half an hour. Imagine a 50% off sale of Hermes (or LV) bags in Japan - it was kind of like that.
This is a fashion phenomenon, like none has happened in technology before. People buy them because they are sexy, sleek, the thing to have - especially the minis.
So this is not just a piece of tech with a cool look. It's a cool look (if you want to put it that way) with a piece of tech. Therefore, the competition will fail - they don't get it. Of all tech companies, Sony is probably the only one which would be able to launch a successful competitor. But they haven't so far...
The iPod, especially the mini, is about one thing: Being the coolest person in the gym - or in any other social situation. And you don't get there with a Dell, a Creative XYZ or an Archos whatever.
The biggest danger to the iPod thing, therefore, is fashion itself. Fashion trends tend to be unstable and things that were cool last year tend to be not cool anymore this year. But i somehow think the iPod will be spared this fate - maybe the Design is too timeless for that to happen.
Eversince the first iPods came out, thieves have used them to connect to store display Macs so they can drag & drop software to it. Most commonly, Microsoft Office v.X. and Adobe Creative Suite products.
With 60GBs at their disposal, the possibilities are endless.
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While I'm sure many people here would have no trouble filling a 60GB iPod, the real reason they're increasing the space so rapidly is their new feature Home-on-iPod. This, coupled with home folder encryption, would allow for truly portable computing; just plug your iPod in and it's your Macintosh, with all your preferences set and all your libraries available. Sounds great to me!
I'm in the hole of the broadband donut.
Seriously, someone needs to lighen up. The web and internet have a spelling and slang all of their own, like it or not. I would never write LOL or IANAL or kewl in a document at work, but have no qualms about using that lingo in email or instant messaging. Besides, it's fun!
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This marks the very first time on /. that DRM has been presented as a desireable feature.
Just a few reminders of what various slashdotters originally though of the iPod before "iPods are the shiznit" became /. canon.
;-)" - jaoswald
.. "groundbreaking" I think was the term I heard them use to describe this new secret product the other day. How "groundbreaking" can something be when I can walk up the street and buy something with similar (and in some cases, additional/better) features? Sigh. One day Apple will live up to the hype. OS X is cool, and their plastic molding team has skills, but the hardware just sucks." - nebby
"iPod is a good product, but nothing to get excited over." - harlows_monkeys
"It's not cool at all. It's just another Mac attempt to have the coolest looking, hippest sounding gadget on the market. It adds nothing serious to the current options. For instance, no Ogg Vorbis support (and yes, I realize it probably decodes mp3 in hardware, but...) and it doesn't appear to be cross-platform. I guess this falls into the Dilbert principle of "the best target market is stupid rich people." Since they'll fall for anything and have the money to burn on it." - ichimunki
"...the "rose-colored glasses that you will need for this to seem like a worthwhile product. What a let-down, geez!!" - david614
"People need to realize that all apple ever really delivers is mediocre equipment that, while it may look really cool, is less technically advanced/powerfull/whatever than competing products that cost 20-25% less." - greysky
"A waste of time. Probably OEMed by someone else. Agree with the article poster - Lame. Not only is this a lackluster MP3 unit (which by virtue of being firewire will be limited to Apple Mac owners), but it has virtually no UI wizardry that might define it as an Apple product. A total waste of time." - Ars-Fartsica
"I'd rather pay $100 for a Rio Volt. 700mb of songs per CD with an unlimited number of CD's, provided you change them. Yeah, this should compete favorably with the solid state units, but they've already lost to the CD-MP3 units, IMO." - Fred Ferrigno
"I think it'll sell as well as the G4 Cube. Oops.
"And I was all excited they were gooing to release a OS X based wireless web pad. Instead we get yet another portable MP3 player
"I am very sad that Apple seems to be repeating the same mistake they made with the Cube - great, nifty product that anyone would love to own, except that it's burdened by an unbelievably poor price/performance ratio." - jchristopher (Apple shareholder)
"...this was a VERY poor design decision. This could have been a $150 device if they'd used a regular laptop drive." - jchristopher again
Comparing it to Windows will be a moot point, since El Dorado is going to have a 40% larger code base than XP.
Oh, you'll be able to buy one right away. They just won't ship until 2005.
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As the Cypherpunks like to point out, encryption is less useful if only the stuff you want to hide gets encrypted. knowing that 500k is the stuff I need to decrypt makes my life easier than trying to decrypt 3GB of stuff. Plus, the existance of JPEGs likely makes decrypting orders of magnatude worse, since about 90% of the data will effectively decrypt to random data; how do you know you're successful?
You are in a maze of twisted little posts, all alike.
Of course you can do it without iTunes...
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iTunes (and other software) is only there for your convenience. You do not need any special software to access the music on your iPod. The MP3s are stored in a folder hierarcy that is hidden from the Finder on MacOS.
To "enable" the drag and drop feature is a matter of seconds:
http://www.ipodlounge.com/tips_more.php?id=671_
Of course you can do it all from the shell, its a Unix...
Windows should work the same way.
I note you offer no credible authority for accepting 'virii', but rather confuse the question by defining 'register'. The state of the matter is the following.
The idea that something 'is a word' or 'is not a word' comes from an early stage in our education, when often we said things that 'weren't' words, like 'brung' and 'sheeps' and so forth. So now we have a definite idea about what 'is' or 'isn't' a word. Changes in our vocabulary and the vocabulary of those around us (think about moving from the UK to the US for instance) mean that we can't afford to adopt a rigid view of what 'is' or 'isn't' a word, since someday, we could wind up somewhere where everyone says 'embiggen', and then we'd look stupid not to use it ourselves.
On the other hand, while we are where we are, there are certain words, 'virii' being a case in point, which are only used by certain people, and not necessarily by a majority. We know that 'virii' is badly-formed, we don't have to use it, and I'm not alone in thinking less of people who use it. So although we can't say 'it isn't a word', we still shouldn't use it. There are plenty of other words which are best unused on slashdot, because they are obscene ('cunt'), or archaic ('purl'), or dialectal ('fleen'), or childish ('moocow') or oxymoronic ('microsoft works') or whatever.