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60GB iPod Coming?
An anonymous reader writes "Toshiba today announced that it will offer a 60GB version of its 1.8-inch hard drive in the coming months and that Apple has already placed its order. Cindy Lee, deputy manager of Toshiba's hard disk drive division, said the drive will enter mass production during July or August. All three iPod models (15GB, 20GB, and 40GB) use Toshiba drives, while the iPod mini uses a 4GB 1-inch drive from Hitachi. Lee noted that Toshiba is currently shipping 350,000 of the 1.8-inch drives per month to Apple."
Creative Labs to be specific Here
Easy (my 30 gig Ipod is full)
-17 gig songs (granted, a 4000+ collection is fairly rare... and i could go to 128 instead of 160)
-Encrypted backup disk images of
digital pictures of friends, family, myself
backup documents from all my classes
family guy episodes
-Standard apple iSync stuff (very small, mind you)
contacts, address book, iCal, etc
I have about 3 gigs free right now (not COMPLETELY full, but close). Bear in mind, my music collection continues to grow, and I have stuff from my office that would be nice to have another backup in my pocket... just in case.
So absurd? probably. But if i didn't have an iPod and was given a choice between a 20,40, and 60... i might still jump for the 60. Always better to have room to grow.
my last sig was too controversial... now, a new and improved useless sig!
Wait a minute - you have 1500 CDs ripped as AIFFs? You have more invested in hard drives than I do in my car. Why don't you encode all those AIFFs into Apple Lossless? You'll drop file sizes 40-50% and still be able to losslessly transcode into whatever without having to rerip.
usually the pricing stays about the same and the size just goes up...... often the towers will dot he same thing.... Fast, Faster and Fastest will stay about the same price but the specs will jump up a step. not always true, but often is.
right now
15gig = $299
20 = $399
40gig = $499
it would make sense if....
20 gig = $299
40gig = $399
60gig = $499
or something like that depending on what drives are available
though it depends on what kind of deal Apple get's on the drives..... Apple has said theyw ould like to lower the prices on the iPods as much as possible, but there is a set profit margin. as parts come down in price, so will retail prices. the iPod Mini follows another parts list and plan, and those drives are another manufacturer, so it's price has nothing much to do with this.
Sure you can, if you've got the USB cable. It only works on 2K and XP (preferably w/ USB 2.0), but it does work.
It's hard to be religious when certain people are never incinerated by bolts of lightning.
I think you need to do some homework.
/usr/src/sys/ufs ./*
Just because a linux kernel can read UFS doesn't mean it's GPL'd. Almost any unix including commercial ones like Solaris can use UFS. In fact it is the default filesystem used by Solaris. Nowhere does Sun distribute the source to their UFS implementation.
And then there is this:
$ uname -a
FreeBSD xxxx.xxx 5.2.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE
$ pwd
$ grep -ir GPL
$
So are the BSD guys violating too? Not likely.
Because its not a GPL'd file system?
UFS stands for UNIX file system, which was originally developed from the first versions of UNIX at AT&T. The file system reached its current status in the 4.x BSD distributions. It it currently used in FreeBSD, NetBSD as well as OpenBSD and the Solaris Operating Environment. Linux support is available, but is not standard.
Now, take a deep breath and repeat after me. Not all that is open source is GPL.
"Have you ever thought about just turning off the TV, sitting down with your kids, and hitting them?"
Right, but none of the existing 60 GB players use 1.8" hard drives, because until now there weren't any. Have you seen one of those Nomad players next to an iPod? "Chunky" is a good word to use.
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My understanding is they were making footage in New Zealand and Peter Jackson was in London organising the score, Jackson had to see what they were doing and make suggestions the only fast pipe they had was some distance from where Jackson was working/staying at The Dorchester so they downloaded to ipods and then carried them to Jackson's hotel.
Nearly lost a late cut of the film in a mugging as well if the DVD is to be believed.
'There is a Light that never goes out.'
It's legal to, you know, shift the format from CD to ogg/mp3. So I took my entire CD collection (~350 CDs) and ripped them to shiny, high-quality ogg files. All legally. No more scratches, no more blips, no more hunting for disc. I'm listening to them right now, in fact.
It's not a crime to own digital media formats, you know.
But mostly it's a work of art... note that the original doesn't have "moving" buttons...they're all touch sensitive/capacitive so they work with fingers but won't trigger bouncing around in your pocket! and that dial is SO cool...no moving parts!!! all of the other players use tiny cheap plastic 'snappy' buttons, not so easy to use.
The original iPod cost the same as the standalone drive... so therefore not *less*, but you did get free mp3 playback and battery power for the price of the hard drive :)
Or even the iPod mini... here's the hard drive and the mini only costs $249 vs $385 for the stock hard drive.
GPL Deconstructed
The Neuros beats the Karma in a lot of ways. I know this because I have a Neuros and my brother has a Karma. The Neuros can record from line-in (also has a cheap built-in mic which works for recording lectures) to either MP3 or WAV. It can also broadcast over FM radio (which is great for the car / anywhere someone has a radio but no decent music). It works as a normal HD (USB2 now even). The backpack system rocks too: A new 40G USB2 backpack will be running me $260 instead of $330 for a new player (I sort of dropped my 20G backpack one too many times...). With my now dead 20G backpack (gah, making fun of hardcore kids skanking and getting beat up at a death metal show is NOT a smart thing to do with an mp3 player in your hand) the battery backpack has become a lifesaver; even though I can only fit two or three albums on the 128M of flash (the new Neuros II due out in about two weeks has 256M of flash and looks cooler) it's still a lot nicer to carry the Neuros around than my two CD binders (270 discs now ... that's too many to carry around safely).
The Karma, on the other hand, has better playlist management and a much better equalizer (parametric eqs are fun...but only if you know what you are doing). The visualizations are nice and all but are basically just useless (and battery draining) eye candy. I'd gladly take a Neuros over a Karma any day. If the Neuros would release 1.8" drive based backpacks...the iPod would be dead in a minute. Size is the only thing holding it back now that Firmware 2.x supports all of the things people have been asking for since the beginning.
And if you're looking for just a portable hard drive, you can always get a USB2 backpack from the Neuros store, a power adaptor, and a USB2 cable...all for around $300 total for a portable HD (the USB2 packpacks can operate as standalone hard drives without the head) that can operate on its built in battery for a while (which is great for quick transfers; at USB2 speed I've found that I can copy the entire drive in around 15 minutes and without needed the power cable at all). If you get the urge to listen to music it's only $100 more to get a head for your backpack.
And think about the guy who has 160G of music. Just grab a few 40G backpacks and swap between them; much cheaper than getting the same number of Karmas or iPods. 60G backpacks are supposed to be released sometime soonish too (and 1.8" HD backpacks...in December; they may or may not meet it...but the Neuros II is at least confirmed as shipping June 10 because several resellers have been preselling it).
HAL 7000, fewer features than the HAL 9000, but just as homicidal!
Granted the HD does not spin all the time. But I have had incidents where my iPod has been hurled on the floor at great velocity, and also driven along very bumpy roads with a sport suspension and the iPod playing the whole time - and this is the original 5GB model.
I think few things short of a sledge hammer are even going to make the iPod skip, much less harm the drive. I have yet to ever hear the iPod skip for any reason.
I did have a little less luck with a portable photo storage device that used an HD - I was jogging along with it in the lower pocket of my shorts bouncing against my leg while it was writing files from a CF card to the HD. In that case I did manage to get one bad sector on the drive, but that was pretty good considering the abuse it was going through (I wanted to see what extremes it could take for shock while operating). I don't know if that drive (standard laptop drive) was any differently speced than the iPod drive though.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
here's a fantastic idea,
instead of removing the hdd from your ipod and potentially voiding your warranty say y or m to;
"CONFIG_SCSI", "CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SD", "CONFIG_IEEE1394", "CONFIG_IEEE1394_SBP2"
reboot with your new kernel (or modprobe the modules) connect your ipod and mount as you did before (except it will appear as a scsi disk)
Toshiba is the one boosting production to 800,000 units per month, not Apple. Apple only uses Toshiba drives in their iPods (non-mini).
"I like systems, their application excepted", George Sand (French)
Do you realize how much power it takes to spin up a 3.5" drive? All external 3.5" USB drives need an AC adapter because a USB port can't provide enough power. Even a 5400RPM single platter drive can easily draw 10 watts constantly (mostly on the 12 volt rail). That means a 1250mAh battery (3G iPods have a 950mAh battery IIRC) could power just the drive (not including any MP3 decoding hardware) for about 90 minutes. Don't forget that because of their larger platters and heads, 3.5" drives are more vulnerable to bumps than their smaller laptop counterparts. So your idea for a cheap mp3 player would be great if you want a heavy, power-hungy mp3 player that will destory itself at the slightest jolt.
Sorry to shoot your idea down so harshly, but now you know the reason no one makes portable mp3 players with 3.5" drives.
Karma: Meh (Mostly from meh.)
Nope; ALS ha[ds]n't been finalized, and either way Apple didn't use it, as a quick Google will confirm.
Yes & No about plugging it into someone else's box. It depends on what the ipod is formatted & what the box recognizes. Ipods can be formatted to vfat (windows versions) or hfs+ (mac versions). It can also be reformatted, but it's just a firewire/usb hard drive to a computer. Of course, the filesystem on that hard drive does matter a bit if you want to get useful data off of it.
The UI and the joystick suck though, and the lack of gapless playback blows. There's also no on-the-fly playlisting function. And there's a serious bug which keeps the drive spinning at all times in many situations.
:-/
Sure it could do many of those in the future with a firmware upgrade, but it does none of those things today. And the firmware upgrade iRiver promised for May has been delayed.
Still, the USB-STORAGE class and OGG support and long battery life are enough for me to keep the unit and wait out the firmware upgrades when they come, if ever...
The only other unit which comes close is the Rio Karma -- and that has serious reliability problems with the hard drive. And it doesnt have USB-STORAGE class.
If you're using an Apple computer, it's easy to use their built-in home directory encryption and mirror that on your iPod.
Actually Homer Simpson didn't make up the word embiggen. Jebediah Springfield did.
Spelling my fucking arse, you don't even know your Simpsons references.
As a human, I agree with your points completely.
As an employer, I can GUARANTEE you that I won't hire anyone who has poor grammar or spelling.
The job market is such that I can send such people away with complete confidence that someone with a good command of at least one language will appear in his place.
All you lazy semi-literate slobs out there should be ashamed.
In spite of your errant pedantry, some of your points are plainly wrong.
irregadless is most definitely a word. The OED, Webster's, and the American Heritage Dictionary all contain it as a listed item. (While all "words" are not necessarily listed, all listed items are necessarily words.) It's got nearly a century of documented history. Its usage may be discouraged, but it is nevertheless a word.
virii actually IS a word, however sad this fact may be. Its use is restricted to very specific groups, which qualifies it as part of a specific linguistic register (sort of like a dialect within a social subgroup of a population). So, "virii" is the plural of "virus" in and only in the context of computer viruses being discussed by the sorts of people who think writing them is a good way to spend an afternoon and their ilk. (You may find the discussion of plurals of virus in English & Latin to be found here of some interest. But these facts about what ought to be the correct plural according to English & Latin morphological rules do not discount the fact that "virii" entered one register of the English language via a route that "smacks of pseudo-pedantry.")
And, saddest of all, though this day has not yet come, alot will one day be a grammatical word in the English langauge. Words like "altogether", "instead", "nonetheless", "amiss", "already", and "alright" (the last of which is still in the process of gaining acceptance), all attest to the process by which words that frequently collocate coalesce into new words. Thankfully, we'll probably all be dead before "alot" becomes kosher in formal writing.
Incorrect. Quoted from m-w.com:
Just to whet your grammarian appetite, squoze is in the dictionary, too. My next mission: Find the word "shooted" in a popular dictionary.
virii is not a word.
Virii is as much not a word as smush is not a word. It's a play on words, and a funny one at that. If you don't share my humour, that's your prerogative. That said, almost 1/2 million people do (check regular google & groups). Belittling people who use it amongst supposed friends who perfectly understand its meaning as a computer related only entity disparate from animal viruses is petty, and, overall, not cool. Especially when you, yourself, know the meaning.
In sum, good comment.
If you could be told what you can see or read, then it follows that you could be told what to say or think - BoC
And iRiver has something that iPod/Creative doesn't - it's a standard USB Storage Class device, meaning you can connect it to any computer (PC, Apple) with USB and operating system better than Windows 98 (and there's even a USB Storage Class device driver for Windows 98). It also plays OGG and displays text files, and has directory structure navigation, not some sort of silly database Creative ZENs have..
...lossless AAC.
it's apple's new USP.
Neither does an iPod. They're built like tanks. My iPod has loads of superficial scuffs. I don't baby it.
mbbac
The iPod supports Apple Lossless. It sports somewhere around a 2:1 compression ratio.
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My primary exposure to new music is through file trading these days. It's fun to get gigs of music you've never heard of and discriminate after you listen to it (as opposed to based on the appearance of the band, the music video, the frequency of commercial radio play, the genre, your nostalgia and grudges from high school, etc).
Heck, yeah. If I had an iPod, I'd be all over this media reader. It's a bit bulky, but you can download photos to it, then when you sync up with iPhoto once you get back to your computer, it keeps the shots in the "rolls" you shot them in. Nice.
You know what?
The drives are probably comming from Toshiba. See, Lee says that they are currently shipping 350,000 1.8 inch drives:
The article has some slopping editing. I imagine the 2.5 units are for the i/Power-Books.
The problem with reencoding music is not the amount of space it takes up, but how much it reduces the battery life. Since the ipod has a fixed ram buffer, doubling the size of the music, will almost double the amount of time the hard disk is spinning, which will almost cut your battery life in half. Which is why (even though 128 AACs suck) I use them in the car. The battery only lasts about an hour with losses encoding.
Apples format is hardly lossless, in fact its worse then MP3, listen to it on something other then pc speakers or headphones and you will hear the difference between CDA, MPA and AAC.
Ummm, you are referring to AAC. He was referring to Apple Lossless, which is.........wait for it.........lossless.
Little Bricklets
Take a look in your /Users directory:
.fred/ .fred
/Users directory, for every person with FileVault turned on, there are two things. /Volumes/.com.apple.FileVault/username .username
.username is an encrypted sparse disk image called 'username.sparseimage'. If you copy it before it is mounted (say during boot) or as another user, you are guaranteed to get a good snapshot of your home directory. If you copy it while it's mounted, you may or may not get something usable.
[Fnord:/Users] fred% ls -Fal
(snippity)
drwxr-xr-x 4 fred fred 136 5 Nov 2003
drwx------ 69 fred fred 2346 2 Jun 17:02 fred/
(snippity)
[Fnord:/Users] fred% ls -Fal
(snippity)
-rwxr--r-- 1 fred fred 7476502528 3 Jun 16:17 fred.sparseimage*
So, basically, in your
- A link of some kind to
- A directory called
In the directory called
Have fun.
-fred
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