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Medal of Honor for Linux Released

victorvdl writes "Medal of Honor: Allied Assault, the World War II-themed FPS originally developed by 2015 Inc. is now available for Linux and is shipping right now from Tux Games. The incredible Ryan Gordon aka icculus did the porting. It's nice to see more Linux games being shipped - I'm definitely buying this one."

65 comments

  1. I can't see this selling well by steve.m · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I would have thought most people who want to play this game would have bought the Windows version.

    How many die hard Linux users are there who wait until games are ported to Linux before buying them?

    1. Re:I can't see this selling well by Dave2+Wickham · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Surely die hard Linux users wouldn't buy the Windows version because they don't have Windows?

      Anyway, I've just got round to ordering it. So that's at least one ;)

    2. Re:I can't see this selling well by sydb · · Score: 0, Redundant

      me for one.

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      Yours Sincerely, Michael.
    3. Re:I can't see this selling well by Seumas · · Score: 1

      Imagine if they did this with Halo.

      Game comes out on Xbox in 2000.
      Game comes out on PC in 2003.
      Game comes out on Linux in 2006.

      I don't play a whole lot of video games, but I keep a high-end windows box around just for them. I really don't want to be the last guy on earth to get to play a cool game just because most aren't put out for Linux at the same time (except for UT2K4 and a few others!).

      If it weren't for the games, I'd finally rid myself of Windows entirely and I'm sure many others feel the same.

    4. Re:I can't see this selling well by Wuukie · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I guess no game ported from Windows months/years after the original release will sell well. I would gladly be proven wrong. But anyway I don't think that's the point in this business. Yet.

      TuxGames and Linux Game Publishing are (hopefully) making slow but steady progress. The problem the way I see it is that there really hasn't happened anything significant to attract more (commercial) game developers to Linux. On the other hand Linux distributions are just beginning to standardize thanks to LSB. Guess there's still a long way to standardize gaming libraries.

    5. Re:I can't see this selling well by Domini · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Seriously though, how many people will still play this game with you? It's based on old technology and even though it may still be fun single-player, the multi-player market is dead. Thus you will only get half the intended fun out of it.

      Don't shoot me down, I'm in the same boat really. I have 2 copies of Quake 3 (I bought the windows version, and later bought the Linux collectors edition anyway just to support them... even though I did not even need to)

      As for NWN... I just bought my second copy for OS X (I would prefer playing it on OS X), but all my friends have moved onto other games already, so it's a bit lonely now... :(

      It's a different matter if the games get released even just a week after the windows version... I would buy the Linux and OS X versions out of principle.

      But 6 months!!! You MUST be kidding... it's not worth-while. (Advice I should follow too...) ;)

    6. Re:I can't see this selling well by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Even harder: no source, no bargain!

    7. Re:I can't see this selling well by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think I speak for everyone here when I say: who gives a shit?

      Really, what's next? Frogger for Linux, only $40?

    8. Re:I can't see this selling well by RogueProtoKol · · Score: 1

      Actually, the MoH multiplayer community is pretty alive and kicking considering the game has been out 28 months.

    9. Re:I can't see this selling well by mahdi13 · · Score: 1
      But 6 months!!! You MUST be kidding... it's not worth-while. (Advice I should follow too...) ;)
      Ya, an nobody is playing Counter-Strike anymore either...
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    10. Re:I can't see this selling well by bigman2003 · · Score: 1

      Counterstrike is used as example of so many things it's sick- and tired.

      In my opinion, the reason for Counterstrike's continued success, is that it was one of the first popular on-line tactical shooters, and a lot of the players never moved on to anything else. *

      It's just like walking into an arcade with a bunch of 'old people'** and they all say 'oohh, Pac Man!'.

      Guys! Give it up! Move on! There is better stuff out there!

      But even worse, a lot of these Counterstrike players have machines that won't run any modern games, so they are even more entrenched. Like if the same old people walked into an arcade, and Pac Man was the only game that took quarters, and everything else took foreign money. "Why change my money? Pac Man gives me everything I need, and it takes quarters."

      Well, it's hard to argue with a man wearing Gloria Vanderbilt jeans, so just let him have at it.

      Anyway...Medal of Honor is still a good game, and worth playing- but bringing up Counterstrike in every discussion gets a little old.

      The mod community is awesome! Look at Counterstrike
      Great games can run on old hardware! Look at Counterstrike
      The best games have already been made! Look at Counterstrike
      OpenGL games are best! Look at Counterstrike

      Okay, okay...we gotcha. Counterstrike is the best thing in the world.

      * Yes, of course a lot of people who play Counterstrike have the best rigs in the world, and they are the top gamers, blah blah blah. But as far as popularity is concerned, I still feel that it is riding on the wave of gamers who are just won't move forward.

      ** I fall into the 'old people' demographic, but I believe I have moved forward, beyond Pac Man. BUT- I will say this. If you are in your mid to late 30's, and you've been in an arcade (usually the kind attached to a mini-golf course) you may have noticed the same phenomenon that I have. This little brats who go the arcade now- you know, the 8-12 year olds that feel the need to drip ice cream on the controllers? They have hot moms. Poor chicks have to hang out and play Pac Man while their kids play on the newfangled machines. Nothing hotter than a 34 year old woman in little khaki shorts and a tank top playing videogames. At least the ones who kept themselves together...the other ones are sitting in the food area sucking down a 3 scoop ice cream...ignore those.

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    11. Re:I can't see this selling well by irix · · Score: 1

      the multi-player market is dead

      No it isn't. The MoHAA multiplayer market is still very much alive. There are many active servers and there are regularily more players for MoHAA on Gamespy than many of the newer release FPS titles.

      I agree that if you release this long after the Windows release then you aren't going to get nearly as many buyers, but playing online would be one reason to buy it.

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    12. Re:I can't see this selling well by MC+Negro · · Score: 1

      Seriously though, how many people will still play this game with you? It's based on old technology and even though it may still be fun single-player, the multi-player market is dead. Thus you will only get half the intended fun out of it.

      That statement is the fundamental reason why the Linux gaming community has never really happened. Quite frankly, very few people want to play 3 year old FPS ports to an inferior graphics API. There's just simply not a large market for it. Not from a commercial standpoint, anyway. As someone else pointed out, these games are often more expensive then their Windows counterparts, and usually suffer from graphical issues and dead community support (not to mention an appalling price difference from the Windows versions).

      But all this goes back to one of the more classic flame-war topics : who plays games on Linux? I mean, reallistically. I certainly don't, nor do any of my friends or coworkers. Support for the latest graphics cards has been iffy at best, and support for the games that do actually make it to Linux (such as Unreal Tournament) usually dwindles.
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    13. Re:I can't see this selling well by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      OK, so there are lots of people still playing this online. That means that whenever you play on the net you will get your ass kicked by people who have had a lot more practice and know the maps like the back of their hands. Good luck (if you aren't uber1337).

    14. Re:I can't see this selling well by mahdi13 · · Score: 1

      Counterstrike is used as an example because it is true. The game (Half-Life mod) came out almost 5 years ago and is still the #1 played online game. It's not about the graphics or eye-candy, it's about gameplay.

      Same with Pac-Man, it's a fun game. Just the other day I was in one of those arcades with my 6 year-old daughter, I was playing Pinball (these things are rare and are still the most fun!) and what was my daughter playing?
      Pac-Man
      I personally have also moved from the CounterStrike thing and like the more engaging Enemy Territory and UT2004. But sometimes more is not always better. RtCW:ET and UT2004 contain the things that make gaming fun.

      And stop oogling over my wife at the arcades!! =)

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      "Some things have to be believed to be seen." - Ralph Hodgson
    15. Re:I can't see this selling well by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      bad example

    16. Re:I can't see this selling well by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why would you purchase OS X? Apple is more proprietary in both software and hardware than Microsoft, only less succesful in the market place. I have purchase this game along with Quake, Quake II, Quake III, Quake III Team Arena, Tribes 2, Return to Castle Wolfenstein, Neverwinter Nights, Unreal Tournament Unreal Tournament 2003, Heavy Gear II, Unreal Tournament 2004, Rune, Myth II Soulblighter, and Civilization Call To Power for Linux (Debian GNU/Linux Sarge). Most of these purchases were from Tux Games (a great resource for Linux games). I highly recommend them to everyone.

      Purchasing games for Apple is the same as purchasing games for Microsoft. There is no difference. People like to state that they are against what Microsoft is and turn around and support Apple. Just because Apple uses FreeBSD under OS X does not make it any different than Microsoft. Microsoft also contains bits of FreeBSD since Windows NT 4.0.

  2. well, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ill wait for the Far Cry port;)

  3. The original ? by robnauta · · Score: 1

    I remember this game missed the christmas 2001 release date and came out in february 2002. I doubt this is what Linux needs, more quake 3 based games.
    After all, games were held back between 1999 and 2002 because of all the quake 3 based games. Only recently have companies released games that were a real step forward graphically, like NOLF2, Far Cry, UT2003/2004, etc.

    1. Re:The original ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Only recently have companies released games that were a real step forward graphically, like NOLF2, Far Cry, UT2003/2004


      What? NOLF2 isn't even on the same planet from a graphical standpoint as UT2004, much less Far Cry, which makes NOLF2 look like an NES game by comparison. But Monolith's engines have always been crap so who's surprised?
  4. how much? by raffe · · Score: 1

    Anybody knows if theire is a market for linux games?
    How much are they selling?

    1. Re:how much? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not much of a market.

      Projected units sold: 47

    2. Re:how much? by mahdi13 · · Score: 1

      Ever order from TuxGames? I'm still waiting for Creatures: Internet Edition that I ordered a month ago...

      5-10 days for US orders...I didn't know that in the UK days means weeks...

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    3. Re:how much? by sydb · · Score: 1

      I'm in the UK, I've ordered stuff from the states before, been told it would be a week, then waited a month.

      So drop the xenophobia. I'm sorry you had a problem with your order from Tux games but one data point doesn't mean we have a different concept of time.

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    4. Re:how much? by mahdi13 · · Score: 1

      Heh, what does xenophobia have to do with bad shipping?
      I'm just saying I don't think I will order from them again since they are slow getting it to me (It was shipped from them only a couple days after I placed the order, so the problem is not them it's the process of getting overseas which we can blame on customs for)

      Why's everyone in a pissy mood today? It's Friday, the weekend is almost here...be happy! =)

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    5. Re:how much? by sydb · · Score: 1

      Why's everyone in a pissy mood today? It's Friday, the weekend is almost here...be happy! =)

      Hmmm, maybe but I'm on 24-hour call out for a week as of now, so I can't enjoy my weekend as much as I'd like!

      Yeah, sorry for being ratty! Not enough sleep.

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      Yours Sincerely, Michael.
    6. Re:how much? by balthan · · Score: 1

      Anybody knows if theire is a market for linux games?

      You bet! Loki is just raking in the cash!

  5. More games! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    There are over 100 games on this list of Linux games. Since this is Wikipedia, You can click the "edit" tab and add even more! You know you want too.

    Stop making up excuses, Linux has the games, the question is, will you play them? My machine is 100% linux, I have all the games I want! Saying "Linux has a lack of games" is NOT and excuse anymore for not using Linux!

    Lets not forget WineX, the tool that lets you play Windows games in Linux! So no more dual booting, delete that partition, TODAY!

    1. Re:More games! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

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    2. Re:More games! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Just a pity that the list in question is so dismal. Looking at the list, I can see only one of the PC games I've been playing in the last 6 months, namely UT2k4. No Farcry, no Temple of Elemental Evil, no Final Fantasy XI, no Deus Ex 2, no Silent Hill 3, no Homeworld 2. Before you ask, I seriously doubt I could play any of these games under WineX anything like as well as I do at the moment.

      Oh well, at least I could play kjumpingcube. Whatever the hell that is.

      Saying that "Linux has a lack of games" is not an excuse for not using Linux is like saying that there's no need to use a Mac for graphics design, because you can get MS Paint in Windows.

    3. Re:More games! by Prior+Restraint · · Score: 1

      There's something seriously wrong with WineX. I've been playing Civilization III on it (which is now officially supported) and the sound effects and music get stuck like a scratched CD. I hear the same half-second over and over until I shut off all sounds. Of course, that doesn't actually get rid of all the sound; a few random sound effects still get through (might be a bug in the game, though).

      Of course, that's just a minor annoyance I can put up with. The real problem is performance. I know everyone says Wine Is Not an Emulator, but it runs slow enough to fool me every time, regardless of application.

    4. Re:More games! by Blakey+Rat · · Score: 1

      Uh. This list is pretty questionable. Isn't Aleph One just a game engine used to play Marathon level files? It doesn't ship with the level files, so it can hardly be called a 'video game.'... it's just the engine.

      "Anagramarama?" That'll pull in the crowds.

      For some reason, Return To Castle Wolfenstein is listed while the stand-alone expansion Enemy Territory is not. Both are stand-alone games, right? Why one and not the other?

      "Troubles (or Tales) of Middle Earth"... they don't know the name of their own game? It reminds me of the MST3K movie where the beginning credits said "the brain that wouldn't die" and the ending credits says "the head that wouldn't die."

      Why are little dinky freeware and shareware games listed along with commercial games like Unreal Tournament 2004? I hardly think that "Xeyes" can compete with SimCity 3000.

    5. Re:More games! by joeljkp · · Score: 1

      There, since everyone was complaining, I created a list of commercial Linux games.

      Enjoy.

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    6. Re:More games! by Arngautr · · Score: 1

      [begin rant] I got that game for windows shortly (a few months) after it came out and it was very buggy, make sure it is all patched up, but yah it is most likely a WineX problem, or possibly a MS problem where Infogrames used hacks to make it work in the first place-wouldn't suprise me based on the way the game first looked. [escalate rant] My biggest complaint is that they really needed to use some other data structures for things, it was barely playable (on bigger maps) at/near the minimum specs-450MHz CPU, keep in mind this is NOT an RT type game, or something that should need incredible CPU power just to run, sure it has good AI, but still...[end rant] Well have fun. I want some major, good, up to date games for Linux (see not completely offtopic), seems World of Warcraft would be a good canidate as Blizzard is releasing a Mac version ?at the same time? as the Windows version.

    7. Re:More games! by molarmass192 · · Score: 1

      You forgot America's Army ... added it for ya.

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    8. Re:More games! by kubrick · · Score: 1

      no Deus Ex 2

      No great loss.

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    9. Re:More games! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Linux does have a lack of games, take the game I'm playing at the moment as an example, Rise of Nations. Linux port? No. WineX compatible? No.

      Assuming the game I want to play does run under WineX and I subscribe, where do I stand legally having to download and use no-cd cracks to play games?

      What is the performance of WineX like? Does it compare to running the game natively under windows? Where is the trial version of WineX so that I can see how it performs?

      As much as I'd like to ditch windows, for me it just isn't viable at the moment. For now I'll save my cash and keep my windows partition.

      Posting AC because last time I tried to post constructive critism on this topic I was modded off topic, despite the topic being about windows games running under wine.

  6. wow i thought mac version were slow to be release by Numeric · · Score: 0, Redundant

    when was MOH originally released? :)

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  7. The Real Question is... by Lando · · Score: 1

    Is the game any good. Always nice to hear of another game for Linux... Tired of playing Heroes3 all the time.

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    1. Re:The Real Question is... by kniLnamiJ-neB · · Score: 1

      Yes. It's great. I've played on Windows... and the mission where you're in a landing craft on D-Day scared the heck out of me. It was like watching Saving Private Ryan the first time; and the game shows great respect for the sacrifices those guys made on that beach.

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  8. Great, but too late. by Domini · · Score: 1, Insightful

    All my buddies have already had the MOH PvP LAN frenzies, and now have moved onto something else... if only this was about 5 months sooner... then I may still have had some fun off it.

    But now it's a classic normal game at a special-edition price. It should be $5 in shops by now for win32.

    My, my... it seems to be expensive being a Linux gamer... not to mention late.

    If games were released MUCH sooner for Linux/OS X I would buy those out of principle! But this has been released MUCH too late.
    Still a bit of single-player fun to be had, but no or little LAN multii-player.

    Pity... same with my Mac OS X version of Neverwinter Nights. (I've finally got the Mac version too, but all my friends have moved on...)

    1. Re:Great, but too late. by 0x0d0a · · Score: 2, Insightful

      if only this was about 5 months sooner... then I may still have had some fun off it.

      You know, the two games that I've been playing most at the moment are Homeworld (on a Windows box, and yes, I know that there's a Linux port), which was released five years ago and bzflag, which was originally released about twelve years ago.

      My, my... it seems to be expensive being a Linux gamer... not to mention late.

      Perhaps we'll fund this "expensive" habit with some of the hundreds or thousands of dollars we saved by not buying commercial application software and using free alternatives instead. How many copies of Medal of Honor will Visual Studio .NET and Photoshop buy you?

      (I've finally got the Mac version too, but all my friends have moved on...)

      It is a shame, that. Designing a game for multiplayer use gives you a cheap and easy way to get good AI and gives you a lot of mechanisms to make piracy a pain in the ass. However, multiplayer games have a lifespan that is rarely more than a few years (with a few exceptions, like Quake). MMORPGs are even worse -- within a few years, *all* MMORPG content, all the stuff you spent time acquiring, will be gone as the services shut down.

    2. Re:Great, but too late. by cyxxon · · Score: 1

      Well, I have to add that I just recently got Neverwinter Nights like 2 months ago off Ebay, finished the original campaign, bought the regular Hordes of the Underdark, which is quite new (even on Windows), and started playing multiplayer just a week ago. And I plan on staying with this game for a while (at least until Guild Wars is out).

      Why? Because right now, there are (basically) only mature gamers around, and that is quite fun for me. Last night, some asked me how old I was, I replied with "27" and was waiting for the replay "OMFGu r a some old haxxor there dude !!!1". Bit no, the answer was "hey, than we both are old enough for beer, I am 32".

      Sure, it is not with most of my friends, who play UT2K4 right now, but WTH, I still enjoy it!

      Gotta mention I play under Win32 right now, because I have trouble ATM getting the nvidia driver to work with my Debian, but that is beyond the point, I think...

    3. Re:Great, but too late. by Domini · · Score: 1

      I really do buy a lot of games. I still play Quake (having become rather good at it if I might add)... I've got the original Linux version (that comes with Suse) as well as the windows version. (My original windows version got stolen and I bought it again.

      The problem is that these Linux games only get released in the U.S. Whereas all the other games are adapted for local currencies, I have to pay the exorbitant prices in US$ to get the Linux version.

      To do a bit of math... Amazon.com lists the win32 version as $15, which means that locally I can buy it for R50. The Linux version is $45 (And to import it would cost me R350 (R450 with shipping) )

      Um... it's cheaper to buy windows for games if I'm going to be waiting for games this long anyway... after the 2nd game I can already buy windows... (OEM version)

      With this said, the problem as I see it is with game companies like Electronic Arts etc not bringing out a Linux version immediately. For heaven's sake! MoH is based on the Quake3 engine! How hard can it be! (And it has been out for OS X for ages... mostly un*x based, right?)

      Sorry, but I play games seriously. I'm more serious about games than I am about OSes... those are just tools. I will not support Linux if it's going to cost me my pleasures.

      Kudos to Id for Linux Quake... but there are too few Linux games. What about Warcraft III, the standard in competitive RTS? What about Morrowind? (Best single player fantast RPG ever) X^2 the Threat? (best re-make of Elite ever!)

      I've bough about 30 games in the past year... I reccon it paid for my XP + VMWare?

      And with coLinux I've never looked back?

      (Even though OS X on my iBook is still my favourite)

      Believe me... I've tried. I'm an experienced Linux/HPUX/Irix/AIX/BSD/OS X user.

      Linux will not go away if there are no games for it... we need not to worry and frantically throw more money at a bad deal. Linux will survive in spite of everything, and it will become the games platform of choice... it cannot be stopped. But to waste money now?

      Hmmm...

      Enough ranting.

      Sorry for this pragmatic view on this evangelical forum....

    4. Re:Great, but too late. by mahdi13 · · Score: 1

      Sounds like someone either has a short attention span when it comes to entertainment...or has had WAY too much coffee today!!

      You complain about spending too much money on Linux games now, when you admit to buying 30 games in the last year... 30 x $40 = $1,200
      You spent over a grand on games you probably don't play more then a couple weeks, and you say that Linux gaming is too expensive?

      Please say you bought budget games at $10 each...

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    5. Re:Great, but too late. by Domini · · Score: 1

      I've already bought NWN for PC, and have just ordered the Mac version as welll...

      My 3 top games:

      1. Quake3 (+Team Arena)
      2. Warcraft 3 (+ expansions)
      3. NWN (+ both expansions)

      I own 2 win32 (1 of which came with Mac binaries)copies and 1 Linux special edition of Quake3, Warcraft 3 works on my mac and win32 and I bought all the windows versions of NWN as well as a Mac version now.

      Insofar gaming age goes, I'll be 32 this Sunday, and can kick Anarki's butt on Nightmare usually 40 to -5, and beat Normal difficulty bots on WC3 about 80% of the time... am pretty serious 'bout gaming... strangely I have a life outside of it too... ;)

  9. Steve Jobs: Where you at? by Mr.Dippy · · Score: 0, Troll

    I think Linux offically has more games developed for it than the Mac. Now if WarCraft 3 could be ported over to Linux than Mac would have nothing!

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  10. Sorry guys Lpong doesnt count by voss · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Anything with
    K, L, Tux, or X used generically in the title
    doesnt really count for linux anymore than solitaire or minesweeeper counts for windows.

    Do you want to know when Linux games will finally
    breakout...its when

    A) 3d Video and sound works as reliably on Linux as it does on Mac or Windows
    b) When the installation process for installing a linux game involves sticking in a cd and clicking I-agree-next--typical install-next-next-finished
    c) When Linux has a unified installation interface for programs regardless of extension.

    1. Re:Sorry guys Lpong doesnt count by mahdi13 · · Score: 1

      Insightful post my ASS
      Time to feed the Trolls

      Here's a small list of games that are available for Linux
      Take not that these do not include the L, G or K games that are usually bundled with a desktop manager

      Once you have played every game on that list, come back and then say that Linux games suck...until then, keep your head buried up your ass or you may see the sun sometime

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    2. Re:Sorry guys Lpong doesnt count by Joe+Tie. · · Score: 1

      Why wouldn't solitaire or minesweeper count? They may not have amazing whiz bang graphics but they're fun and most people enjoy them regardless of gaming background.

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    3. Re:Sorry guys Lpong doesnt count by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Once you have played every game on that list, come back and then say that Linux games suck

      Ok, as long as Linux zealots have to run every single program ever made for Windows before they say Windows sucks.

  11. Mod parent down! He is spreading FUD and misinfo! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If I had mod points I would of rightfully modded him down!

    First of all, this user has NOT read this list.

    Lets SEE THE FACTS, NOT THE FUD!

    A) NVidia, ATI, Matrox have all got 3d drivers for their cards now, and ALSA supports all mainstream cards, even ones that Apple and Microsoft refuse to support.
    B) Has this guy even bought a Linux game from the shop, it's obvious that he hasn't. Almost all games use the Loki-installer, which is a lot easier than most Windows games that have copy protection shit, serial numbers, reboots! Just enter your root password and click install!
    C) Apt-get, works for both RPM and DEB. All the other package formats such as ebuilds, tar,gz etc are being phased out. Synaptic is the GUI version, and it runs all every distro!

    So there you have it. Luckily for me I am dedicated to stamp out Linux FUD. IF this guy had bought Mandrake 10 Power Pack or SuSE 9.1 he would be playing too many games to be trolling!

    I fucking HATE IT when people who haven't used a modern distro and spread fud from 1999, its just plain wrong and if the moderators around here had a brain then these trolls wouldn't thrive!

    NOTE TO ALL MODS! VERIFY the posters words before modding up dis-infromation because its WRONG!

  12. Not true by rRaminrodt · · Score: 4, Insightful

    When I first saw the headline, I mentioned to my boss that MoH was finally out for linux. He told me that I should get it as soon as I can. That's one person who still wants to play it with other people.

    Then he mentioned that he played it _last night_ online. And that he has no trouble finding people to play against. And that there are plenty of servers.

    Maybe the unwashed horde has moved on to other games, but it seems like there's still a thriving community here.

    Besides, anytime's a good time to buy, when you're buying something that's worth it to you. Who cares what the other guy is doing, you're not him.

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  13. A clueless non-developer asks a question... by Mitleid · · Score: 1

    ...how difficult would it be for a company to put all of their time and effort into creating a serious all-out kick ass game for a Linux platform? Now, I understand that developer's today are usually under the publishing thumb of companies who's #1 concern is market-share, so as long as Windows is the dominant platform for the common PC gamer, we aren't going to see EA or Blizzard release a Linux-only game anytime soon.

    However, seeing that Medal of Honor has been out for years now, and is most likely reaching the tail end of it's lifespan as a multiplayer game (and even a single player game, for that matter...), my question is this: From a developer standpoint, would it be incredibly difficult for an experienced team to take advantage of Linux as an operating system that can be used for serious hardcore gaming? I'm talking about pulling out all the stops; all the bells and whistles of a high-end PC game, but with the gameplay quality of the most recent highly rated PC games. Forget this 4-year late PC game port nonsense or some guy hacking something out in his living room in his free time*. I'm talking about a game that can do for Linux what Halo did for the XBOX; an exclusive title (or series of titles) that can really turn the tides of the MS dominated PC game platform.

    *-Not that there is anything wrong with hacking out a game in your living room. I salute those people, and a lot of them do some great work. However, it just doesn't have the pull to bring in a serious PC gamer...

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  14. $45?!? by Holesome · · Score: 2, Funny

    Hmm, $45 for the linux version or $15 for the windows version... Maybe back in Soviet Russia but it ain't gonna fly today.

    1. Re:$45?!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In soviet russia, linux games buy you!

      ...hmm, that sounded funnier in my head.

  15. bullcrap...this is not FUD by voss · · Score: 1

    2 are gnome...games
    18 of them are the Kde games
    7 of them are the L games
    4 of them are tux games
    1 of them is Penguin command

    32 of 118 games listed are not shrinkwrap
    they are just freebie games.

    Here are the facts...linux has a long way to go before it can be a serious game platform. It needs a fully supported 3d engine and a unifed installer/uninstaller for all extensions supported.

    This is not fud, I have a Fedora core 2 box at home.

    1. Re:bullcrap...this is not FUD by molarmass192 · · Score: 1

      It needs a fully supported 3d engine and a unifed installer/uninstaller for all extensions supported.

      You mean like OpenGL and RPM? Seriously though, if UT2K4, RTCW-ET, MOHAA, NWN, and Doom3 can all run on Linux, it's sheer unwillingness on the part of game publishers, not the lack of a viable platform.

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  16. Re:Mod parent down! He is spreading FUD and misinf by BlightThePower · · Score: 1

    Hehe. If you want to play games that old it would be cheaper and easier to buy an old Playstation bundled with them (UT2004 and not much else being the exception). Seriously, most of those are either like card games, mine sweeper/tetris clones or versions of rogue/nethack. Nothing wrong with them, I'm quite keen on nethack myself, but its like showing opening a cinema showing black and white cowboy films and trying to compete with the local multiplex. I do have one game I play on Linux. And it isn't on that list. The excellent Uplink which comes on a dual-format disk Win/Linux CD-ROM.

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  17. why? when you consider.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    linux already has LBREAKOUT, the best game in the multi-verse, what are you all heeing and hawing about? ::sheesh:: rolls eyes ::: loads frozen bubble :::

  18. Torrent, FTP, download site ... anything? by molarmass192 · · Score: 1

    I purchased MOHAA back in Jan *because* of the Linux client beta. Is the production client available *ANYWHERE* other than TuxGames??? All I see on icculus.org is the old beta 2.

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  19. Linux game market is smaller than advocates claim by AHumbleOpinion · · Score: 1

    Now, I understand that developer's today are usually under the publishing thumb of companies who's #1 concern is market-share, so as long as Windows is the dominant platform for the common PC gamer, we aren't going to see EA or Blizzard release a Linux-only game anytime soon.

    You do not understand the industry. The industry does not care about OS market share. The industry cares about return on investment and profits. If Linux was a lucrative market developers would be there. Even premier Linux developers like id openly admit that it does not make business sense to target Linux, that they do it because they think it is cool (Game Developer Magazine article). Id can afford to do things merely because they are cool. Some other developers who offer Linux products merely do so as a spin-off of the Linux server version they had to do anyway. Linux for game servers does make business sense.

    The fundamental mistake that most Linux advocates make is that the Linux game market is not the number of people who would buy a Linux game. It is only the subset of people who would never buy the Win32 version and dual boot or emulate. If that potential Linux buyer would dual boot or emulate then there is no money to be made by offering a Linux version. You are not generating a new sale, you are replacing a Win32 sale with a Linux sale.

    From a developer standpoint, would it be incredibly difficult for an experienced team to take advantage of Linux as an operating system that can be used for serious hardcore gaming?

    It is not difficult, it is expensive. Seriously, several millions of dollars just for development. Now how are you going to recover that money without a Win32 version. If you won a 3 million dollar lottery, funded the game development, would you pass on Win32? I doubt you would honestly say you would pass when your money is on the line. It is far easier to say things like that when you are talking about how others should risk their money. Keep in mind that if you had a Linux game moving it to Win32 should not be that hard, certainly easier than the other direction. The technologies you had used probably also exist under Win32, OpenGL and SDL for example. In short, a Linux-only game is a political statement not a commercial venture.

  20. I agree by Darth+Fredd · · Score: 1

    Personally, I think MOH:AA is a piece of shit. Someone gave me the windows version, so I played through it. Of course, it's pretty much non-stop mindless action (kill soldier, retrieve ammunition, get healthpack, repeat).

    1) No replay value. At all. Quake had replay value because it had secrets, and went so fast you could complete an entire episode in fifteen minutes, and it had that nice "shooting-shooting" game feel to it. AA moves slow enough to be a "thinking-shooting" game, but there is hardly enough strategy to warrant it's placement in such a catagory. There is one very difficult, strategical level, where you have to clear an area of snipers, without getting your guys killed, and that is about as strategical as it gets.

    2) Very little multiplayer value. I started a server just with myself~and couldn't complete objectives! SucK! Granted, I don't actually have friends, so I couldn't test MP in a "real world env".

    3) There isn't even pretty graphics to redeem itself: it is the Q3 engine. Although the manual claims that WWII battle gear was so thick that it obstructed blood from seeping out of wounds (only partially believable), you can shoot someone in their fucking head and no blood, whatsoever. Realism, my ass, they're just whoring for their ESRB "T" rating.

    In short: Why port this game, of all games, to linux? Why not soldat, as was done with the succulent frabs?

    Oh yeah..it's closed source..I forgot..

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