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Constructing A Low-Power 2U Wireless Rack-Box

adelayde writes "Recently we decided to build ourselves a custom rack-mountable box that we could use as a web and DNS caching proxy and which would offer flexible wireless networking facilities and have an uniterruptible power supply. The result was a 2U rack-box with dual wireless networks built upon a low-power Via EPIA MiniITX motherboard. The box has two wireless networks built in with external antenna connectors, locking switches on the front to avoid tampering, a battery to give at least 20 mins of autonomous operation, a low wattage power supply and most importantly lots of blue LEDs :)"

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  1. Asking for a /. by KRYnosemg33 · · Score: 5, Funny
    With a domain name like flakey.info it almost makes me think they were expecting a slashdotting

    Let's see how long she lasts ...

    1. Re:Asking for a /. by batkiwi · · Score: 4, Informative

      AHEM:
      http://www.archive.org/web/freecache.php
      a nd
      http://www.archive.org/about/faqs.php

      Freecache only stores files > 5 megs, and ONLY stores what you tell it to. Linking freecache-style to an index page will only cache that index (IF it's >5megs), not the whole site.

      What is it with all the useless freecache links lately?

  2. Ummm... Priorities? by pla · · Score: 4, Informative

    ...and most importantly lots of blue LEDs

    You may have meant that as a joke, but blue LEDs suck quite a lot more power than red or green ones.

    When you care about power consumption, rather than coolness, come back and ask again.

    1. Re:Ummm... Priorities? by adelayde · · Score: 4, Informative

      Please correct me if I'm wrong but as all the LEDs used had the same voltage and current ratings, it would mean that they draw the same power. Isn't the difference in the intensity? For example for the LEDs used in this project, they are:

      Red: 3700cd/m2
      Green: 40900cd/m2
      Yellow: 15500cd/m2
      White: 29650cd/m2
      Blue: 4480cd/m2

      Blue being quite a lot less bright, though somehow strangely alluring and the power consumption I think the same.

      In the end even if they do draw a little more, surely it's not that much compared with the draw of the other components? The wireless cards for example seem to draw quite a lot. As what we were looking for was autonomy in the event of a brown-out (or someone tripping over the extension cable), the battery did the job and I don't think having a blue LED or two adversly affected things.

      The comment was a bit of humour on as usual a rather dry subject.

    2. Re:Ummm... Priorities? by tap · · Score: 5, Informative
      This is doubly wrong.

      First of all, the human eye isn't the most sentitive to blue light, it much more sentitive to green. You can see the human eye's response curve here and a breakdown of color vs wavelength.

      Secondly, the lumen or candela rating already takes this into account. At the peak of photopic vision, 555 nm (green), there are 683 lumens per watt. If you had one watt of blue light, it would only be about 100 lumens, because the human eye is less sensitive to that wavelength.

      In other words, one watt of green light appears brighter than one watt of blue light, because humans are more sensitive to that color. One lumen of green light is just as bright as one lumen on blue light, because the lumen measurement takes this into account. That's the whole point of lumens, they are watts times luminous efficacy for human vision.

  3. Mirror linked on page by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    http://mirror.us.psand.net/plinth/

  4. sexist computing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    good thing it's not a chick that made this thing, or I could get in a lot of trouble for say this....
    "Hey, Nice Rack!!"

    1. Re:sexist computing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      No. I think "chick" was enough.

  5. 2u = 2 much by moosesocks · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Looking at the pics on the page, it looks like they could have easily built the thing inside a 1U chasis of they used the proper power supply and heatsink. All of the other parts should fit within 1U.

    That being said, they could have simply used an ultraportable laptop with the screen unplugged and unnecessary parts removed/disabled.

    You'd be amazed as to how little there really is inside a laptop. Think about it -- the drives and batteries take up about 75% of the chasis. Leave about another 10% for the power supply and heatsinking, and you've got a REALLY small PCB.

    If space, not power, was their main concern, they could have also used one of the Shuttle cube boxes. They pack an incredibly strong punch for their size, and are usually on par with their desktop equivilants. Hell... they've even got an opteron box. The performance on the EPIA boards is horrific. What were they thinking designing a processor without a FPU? That being said, they're pretty cool because they're small, low-power, and widely availible (which laptop MBs strangely aren't). Still, they're pretty expensive considering that you're getting a PC which would have been considered pretty slow 4 years ago.

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    1. Re:2u = 2 much by jjshoe · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I agree. He should have purchased this single mini itx 1u or this dual mini itx 1u

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  6. Re:insufficient! by mvdw · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The regulator looks like it's there to power the "6V yellow led". Obviously these guys know nothing about electronics - the wireless bridge is powered from a "DC-DC converter" made from an LM317(!) - that's a linear supply, not a DC-DC converter. This supply is probably superfluous anyway - the wireless bridge it powers runs off a 7V supply, telling me it most likely has an internal regulator. They should have checked - might have saved themselves some work...

  7. Re:mini-itx performance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    A lot of people have been use Mini-ITX for HTPCs. The one thing you're going to need to do though is get a hardware based capture card. Not a cheap ATI PCI-TV or anything like that.

    Also I believe the new VIA's have a special chip on them to help with the decoding, so you should be good there.

    If you can live with only 2 PCI cards, go for it (You can always use USB Tuners as well). They do make very quiet systems.

    A lot of people will use them as clients and have a server with the actual tuners in them though. Just another idea to toss out there.

  8. Would you like to explain that?? by the_rajah · · Score: 5, Informative

    I'm a college degreed Electrical Engineer with over 30 years of experience, including teaching electronics at the college level for three years. That regulator circuit looks quite familiar. As long as the heatsink is sufficient for the heat dissipation in the LM317, there should be no problem. Since this is powering only the wireless bridge, the current drain at 7 volts should be modest and it only needs to drop 5 volts across the regulator IC. The total power dissipation spread across both of the 1/2 watt resistors is only 85 milliwatts so no trouble there either.

    If you are referring to the capacitor voltage ratings, the only requirement there is that the voltage rating of the cap be more than the voltage actually applied to it. For example a 35 volt cap is just fine with 6 volts across it. It could even be a 1,000 volt rated cap with no ill effects.

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  9. Nice but ... by mike_lynn · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Personally, I found their antenna designs much more interesting.

  10. My 8 steps to building the same in less space. by Kenja · · Score: 4, Funny

    1. Go to ebay.
    2. Find and buy cheap notebook.
    3. Get into argument with seller over shipping.
    4. Wait for notebook to arive.
    5. Pick up hammer.
    6. Open notebook.
    7. Hit notebook screen with hammer until it comes off.
    8. Stick some WiFi cards in notebook and put it on shelf.

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  11. "Low power"??? by darrylo · · Score: 4, Informative

    I'm curious as to what their definition of "low power" is. Low, compared to a power-sucking P4 or Athlon, maybe, but probably not very low by low power standards.

    I've just set up a similar system as an home file server (no wireless, though, and I've added a cheap DVDROM drive), and my box is sucking up around 55-60W, idle. That's measured via an actual wattmeter connected to the power cord, and not by multiplying V*A.

    On second thought, maybe a soekris board and a 2.5" disk drive might have been a better solution (less RAM and CPU, which would probably be fine for an home fileserver, but the power usage would probably be in the 10-20W range).

  12. CPU by Detritus · · Score: 4, Interesting

    How fast a CPU do you really need? Years ago I popped open a 3COM Ethernet bridge/router and found a Motorola 68020, running at 25 MHz if I remember correctly. It was fast enough to handle two fully loaded 10-megabit Ethernet segments.

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  13. Smaller is not necessarily better by gorim · · Score: 4, Insightful


    He may have built this for remote locations
    or heat filled rooms/closets. In those cases
    you want decent space and decent airflow INSIDE
    the box.

    Laptops have neither, and tend to suffer heat
    related problems easily enough.

    Its good already that he went low power and
    low thermal, and put it in a good solid spacious
    chassis.

    If dollars were a concern, going down to 1U
    isn't bad, but no further for real applications.