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Do You Really Want to Meet People on the Web?
Wolfspelz writes "Do you want to meet people on Web pages? The Jabber Virtual Presence project makes people aware of each other on the Web. Just like you are aware of other people in the real world anywhere you go, the virtual presence makes you aware of others on the same virtual locations. The project uses Jabber/XMPP as the transport protocol for virtual presence. Jabber conference components serve as presence servers. The code is GPL/LGPL. The Virtual Presence Protocol extensions are open and documented. The virtual presence system including the LLuna2 client is designed to protect the privacy and prohibit any indecent use, be it commercial use, advertising, or profiling. But: do you want to meet people on the Web at all?"
I don't want to meet people who need the web to meet people.
"Would you, could you, with a goat?" Dr Seuss
That's why I'm on the internet to begin with... so I DON'T have to interact with other people. (Well, except for slashdot.)
Some cats swing, and others don't. Don't you be the kind that won't.
And of course, their #1 "topsite" is porn. Like we didn't know what it would be used for.
No, I don't think I'm interested in listening to a bunch of space-hogging attention-whoring avatars while I surf, thanks.
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that the tens of thousands of geeks out there can compete to meet with the one of the 2 geek girls in the world so the possibility of the uber geek child can become a reality.
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What truth?
There is no dupe
You like Woman being fisted by donkeys? I like women being fisted by donkeys! Funny we should meet here. ... yeah i can see where this will lead ...
Mom?!? Dad?!?! Little Timmy!?! What are you doing on donkeypunch.com!?!?
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I'd say that the more opportunity to meet interesting people in this world, the better, and this just improves the odds of randomly meeting people your probably wouldn't otherwise have to opportunity to meet.
As long as it doesn't supplant actual real world interaction with people as a primary social outlet, that is..
All of these services are just an excuse to gather a huge number of e-mail addresses and connections between people, and then to use that network to market stuff. If there were a service that banned marketing and advertising messages, maybe it would be worth doing. As it is, it almost acts like the "in-crowd", where if you buy what they want, magically you're the most popular. However, so what if people want to meet people online? How is that worse than in an establishment serving alcohol, where everyone's not themselves anyhow?
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While definately not the most obvious use of this software, it could prove interesting on sites such as /., cnn, salon etc. to talk live to others about an article. Posting comments is fine, but it's not live, and it could be days before anyone responds.
It's certainly not something you'd leave running all the time.
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NSFWAlthough I haven't downloaded this yet, it sounds like a fun social networking concept to me. Kind of a hybrid of the late Third Voice and the newer StumbleUpon (which I really love)
Sounds like what Odigo started out as about 5 or 6 years ago. They provided you with a display so you could see who else was at the web site you were visiting, then you could IM them if you wanted. There was more, like the ability to search for people, etc.
However, the lluna interface looks more interesting.
. 62,400 repetitions make one truth -- Brave New World, Aldous Huxley
I've met people socially who I met online, some were freaks and some were decent well adjusted people. It's the same as meeting people in the real world.
I'll admit that I have a bit of social anxiety in person and it's easier for me to start a conversation with a total stranger online and to subsequently dip out on the conversation if I don't like the tone or direction :).
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You can now make friends and be aware of people on the web!
....checks google....
So I now can order food, beer, Geek toys, clothes, make friends, work and interact - all without leaving my home.
Now if I could just be able to order sex, I can brickup my front door....
Just found out that all my needs are now catered for.....
Bricks are being delivered monday!
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Jaj
I can see how this will work: Jabber: You are visiting goatse.cx, there are 1 other visitors. Visitor: Don't you just love looking at this guy. You: Wait... is that you, Mom?
Some years ago ICQ (mirabilis) tried to launch something similar: a chat integrated with browser where you meet the people on the same page, but without the avatars. I don't know where it has gone.
Having met several people in person that I first met through e-mail or chat (fellow programmers and co-workers from remote locations), I've noticed several interesting dynamics from virtual communications relative to those of "real life." Some of these are obvious, such as judging people by how well they express their ideas and opinions in words (instead of by their appearance or personal hygiene).
Others are more subtle, and are apparent only over time, such as the speed with which someone responds. Do they think quickly, but type slowly? Do they fly off the handle and just post the first thing that comes to mind, or do they carefully consider every response?
In most cases, I have found that getting to know someone online, over time, gives you a better perspective on how that person sees themselves. If they have low self-esteem, that will come across (eventually). If they're confident and authoritative, that will show (again, over time). If they're egotistical and full of themselves, they'll have microsoft.com in their e-mail address.
However, you *can* get to know someone really well on one level (or in a given context), and completely miss another. For instance, I used to manage several mailing lists about Borland Delphi. One of the moderators for the list, named Jo, was moving from one part of South Africa to another, and was offline for a couple of weeks. I had known Jo for years as a serious gearhead when it came to Delphi Database programming. After I asked one of the other moderators about Jo by saying, "Where is he moving?", I discovered that Jo was, in fact, a woman.
At that point, Jo's signature line took on new meaning (and I got a much-needed lesson in gender stereotyping): "I am a programmer - I don't do relationships."
Tim
Why, yes, I believe we do! Small Internet. :-D
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Really, and the person you meet at a bar, park, restaurant, club, etc.. cannot be a paedophile? The fact that there is no presence makes the interaction safer. You can chat with the person for months, and then chat with the person on the phone, and if you continue to proceed to meet the person face to face, you are better off (much better) then if you just randomly met the person on the "street." At least, utilizing the Internet method, you have some time you can attempt to get to know the person - on the street, if the person is psychotic, you may have very little warning. To assume psychopaths only proliferate on the internet is naive and wrong. Your example is sorely lacking. And your statement about being "genuine" lacks evidence. In fact, people are more blunt on the Internet because they have a certain sense of protection - hence people are more willing to speak their mind. While some people cannot control their emotions and decide to lash out, many people utilize this form of communication as a way to voice their, legitimate opinions, without feeling pressured due to society rules. That is VERY genuine.
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There are obvious advantages to meeting in person - body interactions, voice inflections, etc. I agree that it is easier to read people in person (and sometimes damn near impossible to read people online). Thank you for saying I may be a nice person...I like to think that I am. (my name is Avi). I do meet many people face - face, I utilize a blend of both online and offline. Everyone needs to find the niche that works for them. My problem comes around when people assume that online engagements are sub-par. Good luck to you, and enjoy a good room temperature beer for me :)
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> the implication that Jabber is
> somehow inherently slow
Hm. It was too slow for our purposes - i.e., passing large numbers of large messages around to track a distributed agent system. I'm sure it's fast enough for most uses.
> The Jabber4R client library?
Nope, that's fine.
> The Jabber server?
Yup.
> Which server?
The Java one, I think.
> Or the architecture?
Dunno about that.
> critical remark
Hm, didn't mean to be critical... just sharing experience.
> a shameless plug for
> your own unrelated product.
It's not really a product, per se... I mean, it's open source and free.
> What was your point, man?
To share an experience with the Jabber server and offer a note on our workaround.
> doing a design comparison between
> Cougaar and Jabber?
They're two different things - COUGAAR is a distributed agent architecture, Jabber is a messaging protocol. I'm not sure a comparison is really in order...
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