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Mozilla 1.7, Firefox 0.9 Release Candidates Out
An anonymous reader writes "mozilla.org have released what are expected to be the final release candidates for their next versions: Mozilla 1.7RC3 (MozillaZine article; download) should iron out any final bugs in what will replace 1.4 as the new stable branch and Firefox 0.9RC (MozillaZine article; download) features the new default theme ported from Mac OS on Windows (though please bear in mind that the theme is nowhere near finished yet). The final releases of these versions are due very soon."
...is here.
FWIW, CVS 1.11.17 - the security release that happened this morning - is up there too.
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It was just discussed earlier today that some users cant install Mozilla on restricted systems but you can download the zip files on run from any directory. So there is no need to patch IE. Just start with mozilla.
Some option you will want to use are under edit -> preferences -> Navigator:
+ Tabbed browsing - turn on Load Links in background, Add, Tabs, Middle click and ctrl-enter
+ Smart browsing - Enable Internet Keywords, Auto complete, Domain Guessing
The key for someone new is to try it. Don't listen to everyone one trying to shove Mozilla at you, but simply check it out for say 3 days. If you don't like it then that is ok but I bet you will start saying that it's a great browser.
Since spyware has gone cross-platform thanks to the XPI extensions, they've now implemented a whitelist (see What's New) in retaliation.
This really is open source at its best. Microsoft has not responded to the same problems involving ActiveX.
Is Camino still being worked on at all? It's been 0.8b since like early 2003.
My main gripe with Mozilla is that when you leave it alone for about 30 minutes or so and come back, it takes like 15-50 seconds to be active again, which is extremely annoying (loading it from virtual mem ?)
Saw this on mozillazine a few weeks ago: (Back to Mike: I think you need to go to about:config and create a new boolean pref for this; I have not tried it myself.)There is a luna theme availible, but it doesn't appear to be maintained anymore. It breaks some features in Firefox 0.8, but if the IE look is all you care about, there you are.
I don't know about Mozilla, but the last time I upgraded Firefix (0.8), the installer pick up all of the bookmarks, stored form information, etc.
Seems a bit faster to start up than before and the warning on closing a window with multiple tabs open is long overdue. The new theme, however, is pretty disgusting (except the "throbber") and most of the themes out there don't seem to be backwards compatible.
I'd like to help the community and I could actually install mozilla on several dozen of the PCs that I administer but the curve is too high for non-geeks. I will continue to use IE and endorse it with this kind of response.
My girlfriend is as non-geek as you can get. When I removed IE from the Desktop and replaced it with a Firefox Icon, she didn't even miss a beat. As long as all her bookmarks imported she could care less what was displaying the site.
That said, I don't think I've ever seen anyone miss a beat when using Firefox as opposed to IE. To most people, a browser, is a browser, is a browser...
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Note the fine print:
(Back to Mike: I think you need to go to about:config and create a new boolean pref for this; I have not tried it myself.)
"Each time you smile, it'll only last awhile. Life may be scary, but it's only temporary."
That's bug 240527, filed 14 April 2004. It's marked as "blocking 1.0", but not "blocking 0.9".
Yeah, IE is so much more superior, I can't imagine why anyone would use Mozilla/Firefox...
All that we see or seem is but a dream within a dream.
Lookee here - it's fixed already:
(If you read that bug, you'll find a knowledge base article from Microsoft that shows that unconditionally swapping out minimized applications is standard windows behaviour... *ugh*)
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I had this problem too. I then found a package which included GTK libraries. That fixed it fine.
I just installed .9, and unfortuanetly it doesn't allow you to use any old themes or extensions (and as far as I know there aren't any new ones). It did manage to bring over all of my setting to the new version quite nicily, though I have to say that the new default theme isn't nearly as nice as the old one.
In the beginning the universe was created. This made a lot of people very angry and is widely considered as a bad move.
Hey,
you can get the qute theme from its designer's website here.
yours ever, fz.
Change the following items in classic.jar/skin/classic/browser/browser.css and the default theme looks WAY better:
.toolbarbutton-menubutton-button { padding: 3px; }
.toolbarbutton-1[open="true"], .toolbarbutton-menubutton-button[checked="true"], .toolbarbutton-menubutton-button[open="true"] { padding: 4px 2px 2px 4px !important; }
.toolbarbutton-1,
.toolbarbutton-1[checked="true"],
The spacing is less annoying and the icons look a lot better.
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Mozilla is more than just a Web browser. It has a mailer, chatzilla, some class of editor and a browser... firefox is essentially nothing more than the browser refactored and cleaned up. If you only use Mozilla as a browser, you would be as well moving to Firefox. If you want all the stuff that comes bundled with Mozilla, go about your business same as ever :)
Hope that's useful.
"Thats right buddy, the large print giveth, and the small print taketh away."
Yes. All extensions and themes which have not been updated for 0.9 WILL NOT work. You must wait for the theme you want to be updated before it will correctly work in this new version.
This was necessary because the theme and extension system in Firefox has been pretty badly broken since the project started. For example, you couldn't uninstall extensions.
0.9 will see automatic updates of extensions and a Mozilla.org extension repository.
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You seem to be confusing the numbering scheme of an open source project with the numbering scheme of a closed source project.
In an open source project, 0.9 does not mean unstable. It means it's significantly different than 0.8, but not a HUGE difference.
In a closed project, a 1.0 version number means complete enough to sell, and we'll pick up the pieces later.
The old theme, Qute, is now available from Arvid Axelsson's site. You can also install it in Firefox 0.8, which by default runs a version of Qute v1, whereas the version that was initially going to go into Firefox 0.9 was Qute v2.
I use FF/TB seperately. If one crashes, the other is still up. And I use Opera mainly for browsing.
Terrible office day. My secretary went sick, we lost a major contract and a little white dwarf turned me into a banana.
If you liked the theme from 0.8 (qute) better you can download it for 0.9. The author completely revamped qute for 0.9 and it's better than ever.
I don't know about the rest of you but this new theme doesn't look as nice to me. The icon's aren't as detailed or polished and it feels a little clunky compared to the old one.
Also, shame on the Mozilla folks for not letting the Qute author know all his hard work to support their project wouldn't be included.
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just installed the new version of Firefox over the previous version. All of the favorites from IE were imported, and I've lost all the bookmarks I had in the old version of FireFox ;(. It seems to do a great job if you're switching from IE to Firefox, but leaves a bit to be desired if you're simply upgrading and also have IE installed.
Lesson of the day: be sure to backup bookmarks.html if you're installing over a previous version and want to keep your bookmarks.
1.7 will be declared stable with 1.8 taking over the role of development
Screenie of the new "Winstripe" theme
Debian has never shipped Netscape 4, it being non-free and all...
I was having major issues with Firefox 0.8 viewing /. in Mac OS X. It would completely push the news headers off the window, horizontally, until I refreshed a couple times.
That seems to have been addressed in 0.9rc (running it now).
I just had a strange experience, however, when I was running the 0.9rc app after taking it from the disk image..firefox kept trying to open and then closed itself after 3 seconds and did this over and over until I had to reboot.
Hopefully that was just a first-run thing
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Neil Turner points out that this version has "A 3% increase in general speed".
Startup will be a tiny bit slower because of the 7zip compression of the executable files.
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It's not 0.9 yet because it isn't 0.9. It will be 0.9 when the final release is made.
Remember, this is a release candidate.
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I don't care how far along the new theme is, there's no redeeming value or promise in it for me. The old theme, designed to work with 0.9, is right here.
There are plenty of valid reasons for just about everything... I'm sure the parent appreciates the tip... but who cares if you're confused? Here's an example... I sometimes want to clone the window because I want to tab around some links where I am originally... but I also want a separate window open on my other monitor which contains some password information.
Sorry, pet peeve of mine...
Mozilla 1.4 and later require version 2.30.4265 or later of the system file oleaut32.dll to run properly beyond the splash screen. If you have problems running this software under Windows 95, it is probably due to this or another missing or obsolete system file. I have flawlessly run Mozilla 1.6, 1.7 RC3, and Firefox 0.8 myself under Windows 95C (although I'll still need to check to see if Mozilla Firefox 0.9 RC works under this OS).
The purchasing people in our office still use Eudora Lite 3. But it works for them, and if you're using email for relatively simple things, you may not need to upgrade since there aren't a lot of absolutely compelling new features. Now, I personally use Eudora 6 because I like the spam filtering options and it works very well. However, I admit I haven't yet checked to see whether Thunderbird can import my Eudora mailboxes and filters (I have a rather lot of filters) and whether it can have multiple signatures and multiple accounts to check. (It probably does; I just haven't yet looked.)
:)
It really depends on what you need. Some people hate Eudora's interface; I mostly like it, and the spam filters were great; my boss gets hundreds of spams a day and has used Eudora for years. When I gave him 6, he immediately found his spam problem manageable. But he's not a geek and won't try a new email client. I am, and I will.
p.s. any answers to my haven't-had-chance-to-check-yet musings are appreciated.
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Also, some pages like WashingtonPost.com have a problem where it is constantly reloading itself (perhaps a JS error).
O AD_PAGE&reload=true"? that's what's refreshing the page. It's the page, not firefox.
Um, that's not a bug. It's standard HTML. go to washingtonpost.com and view it's source. see in the first line the meta tag with the http-equiv="refresh" and the content="900;url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/?L
We try to push them towards Thundirbird. I mean there is nothing I can think of that Eudora does that Thundirbird doesn't (other than suck) and lots of things it can't do.
I know of one thing that Thunderbird can't do, and it's a very important feature in Windows. That is, integrate with a Virus Scanner, obviously not Thunderbirds fault. However if you get an e-mail with a virus, the virus scanner tends to delete the infected file which in Thunderbird also stores all your previous e-mails. So if you use pop, instead of imap, and are running a Virus Scanner, be afraid... be very afraid.
Can I get an eye poke?
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To clarify, the Qute theme was trashed for very good reasons.
it should say v0.8+ (The plus meaning inbetween .8 and .9)
http://quadrone.org/graphics/Qute/Qute.jar just install this and your back to it looking decent :)
0.9 won't install any themes and has broken up the ones I had installed on my profile...
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Go to:
about:config
Find "image.animation_mode"
Change it to "once" or "none"
It's Edit->Preferences in Linux to fit the GNOME HIG, but it's still Tools->Options in the Windows builds.
Man, I don't want to know how many people think that Debian _reall_ still ships Netscape 4.7... Here's the truth:
;-)
1. Debian has never, nor ever will include Netscape 4.7 in the default branch, because it doesn't meet the Debian Free Software Guidelines.
2. Debian is actually one of the more up to date distros I've used. Just run unstable and you get almost everything just a few days after release, virtually always working.
I am sick of tired about people bashing Debian because they make every conceivable effort to guarantee that their stable distribution Just Works, even avoiding incompatibilities between versions of the same package.
At the same time, their unstable distribution gives you the latest software as soon as is feasible while still maintaining unmatched quality, and has (to my knowledge) the largest collection of packages of any distro, compiled for several architectures.
Combine all that with package management that is so good that other distros have eventually given up trying to match it and are now adopting apt one by one, and you have a distro that can turn intelligent people into zealots like me. Get on your knees and apologize!
Please correct me if I got my facts wrong.
I too wouldn't mind being able to clone the old window in the new window; it's one thing about IE I grew to like. I did it so I could have the same history in both windows. For my browsing habits, at least, it is nice to jump around in both.
A preposition is a terrible thing to end a sentence with.
Looking at the release notes on the Mozilla side of the browers, I see they've added support for CSS opacity, very cool. Not something I'd incorporate into the core design of my pages yet, but I might toss it in as a bonus to Moz users.
Since the link on the mozilla.org homepage is still pointing to 0.8, here's a link to the official
Firefox 0.9 RC Release Notes.
The Debian "nonfree" packages still include Netscape 4.7
Actually, I just checked and it's "contrib", not "nonfree". Sorry about that.
steveha
lf(1): it's like ls(1) but sorts filenames by extension, tersely
Assuming you use the appropriate version of Gtk+, you'll find that Konqueror and Mozilla are actually both using the same font rendering software.
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Well, that is a stupid feature of McAffee - deleting your whole inbox. Rather use AntiVir. It costs nothing and works better.
'Cos it's a Release Candidate - a potential release-grade 0.9 if no serious bugs are found. OpenOffice.org 1.1RC5 is actually the same as the official 1.1.0 release - there were no bugs serious enough reported, so this candidate for release was chosen to be the release version. (What confused me was when K3B went from 0.9 to 0.10 - seemed like a huge retrograde step at first to me!)
Start -> Run -> Iexplore
I became disillusioned a long time ago when the moved Edit->Preferences to Tools->Preferences, which doesn't make any sense (is "Preferences" a tool???), just to be like Microsoft.
> Norton Anti-virus works perfectly well with Thunderbird - never had any problems with it.
NAV Corporate 7.x (and probably 8.x) eats Mozilla inboxes. Very annoying.
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