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Mozilla 1.7, Firefox 0.9 Release Candidates Out

An anonymous reader writes "mozilla.org have released what are expected to be the final release candidates for their next versions: Mozilla 1.7RC3 (MozillaZine article; download) should iron out any final bugs in what will replace 1.4 as the new stable branch and Firefox 0.9RC (MozillaZine article; download) features the new default theme ported from Mac OS on Windows (though please bear in mind that the theme is nowhere near finished yet). The final releases of these versions are due very soon."

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  1. Release Candidate? by thedillybar · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Am I the only one confused by a "release candidate" for version 0.9?
    It's not even 1.0 yet, you can't rely on it to be stable (although I have found 0.8 to work better than IE, which is supposedly stable).
    Why not call it 0.85 if it's not 0.9?

  2. Re:Just do it by Issue9mm · · Score: 4, Insightful

    And the easiest way to try it is to assign mozilla the big blue "E" icon for Internet Explorer.

    The hardest part (in my experience) for people to make the switch is that they're so used to loading IE, and don't think to look for the little dragon-head icon. Point the "E" to Mozilla and you'll be up to speed in no time.

    -9mm-

  3. Re:IE by It'sYerMam · · Score: 3, Insightful
    "curve is too high for non-geeks"

    Heh?! I convinced some randomer from archery to install firefox, and not only did he not get lost and isn't a geek, but he also said he found it much better than IE.
    I can't remember Mozilla, but Firefox is incredibly easy and intuitive.

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  4. Re:Nowhere near finished, but due out soon? by Slack3r78 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Because rather than communicate clearly with the theme author or the community, the core devs made a decision and kept it secret from everyone until release was imminent, to the detriment of the project IMO. The crappy part is that, at this point, the chances of this poor decision being reversed are slim to none as it'd mean the core devs losing face.

    I'm all for change and improvement, but this is a step back for Firefox as far as acceptance by the average user goes. The old theme was excellent in that it was close enough to IE to be familiar, yet different enough to be unique in its own right. In the end, it doesn't matter how good your software is, if the average user is turned off by the default interface, they're not going to use it.

  5. Re:Nowhere near finished, but due out soon? by poot_rootbeer · · Score: 3, Insightful


    Not even mentioning which, there's no good reason for the default interface of a Windows application to try and emulate the look/feel of an OS X application.

    The primary design consideration should be consistency. On Windows, the interface should be Windows-like; on Mac, Mac-like; in KDE or Gnome, KDE- or Gnome-like. If users want to use a different model, that's what themes are for. Provide an OS X theme for WinFirefox, sure, but don't make it the DEFAULT theme.

  6. Re:Debian by steveha · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I know it's a joke, but sheesh.

    Debian has all the free browsers, including Firefox, and keeps them up to date.

    The Debian "nonfree" packages still include Netscape 4.7, although in the future the Debian project may distance itself from both contrib and nonfree.

    And while Debian's "stable" branch is legendary for being a bit behind the times, most people run "unstable" on their desktops, or at least "testing", and those are very up to date.

    I'm running Debian unstable on my desktop and I expect to have Firefox 0.9 within a few days.

    steveha

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  7. Re:Nowhere near finished, but due out soon? by gunfinger · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Yes, he may eventually be "vindicated", but what I see here is a worrisome attitude towards the user and developer communities. "We (I) know what's best, no matter how many people in the community present reasoned arguments to the contrary. If you complain about our decisions you're just a whiner, and we're going to censor you to the extent we can. Oh, and we have hidden secret information we're not telling you, so you can't possibly know what we're talking about." It's walking on thin ice at best, juvenile and egotistical at worst.


    this strikes me as an inexperienced attitude. have you never run a large website before? can you imagine trying to poll the community on every decision? or ANY decision, for that matter, it doesn't work. people's opinions change with the breeze and rarely have anything to do with logic nor necessarily infer that they'll be best for the project.

    i've donated a chunk of change to mozilla for their great browser long ago and i trust that they have our best interests at mind then and now, and thus am looking forward to seeing 0.9.

    i've always found the qute theme to be ugly from the get go and have been using this theme for many months, it's easy on the eyes and functions well.
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  8. Re:Mozilla/Firefox Whitelist by FuzzyBad-Mofo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    A new option to prevent sites from using JavaScript to block the browser's context menu.

    Sweet. Few things piss me off more when surfing, than those 2-bit scripts that try to control my alternate mouse buttons. Note to webmasters: if you're worried about people stealing your images, don't put them on the web. Lame Javascript tricks like capturing mousedown events just make me never want to visit your site again (and maybe I'll just disable Javascript and steal your images out of spite).

  9. Re:Qute theme still available by egarland · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Just because it isn't GPL'd doesn't mean it wasn't a help to Firefox. 0.8 was by far the most popular of the Firefox releases and it owes a lot of that success to the excelent Qute theme.

    You may not agree with their decision to use Qute in the first place, that doesn't change the fact that they were rude to someone who was supporting their efforts by donating his time and tallent.

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  10. Re:Very clean! by DoraLives · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Yeah ... how about a damn warning next time guys.

    So let me get this straight. Not only did you NOT back up your profile directory, but you also just downloaded and installed a beta on to your primary computer without even bothering to run it on your (or somebody's) test rig to see what it did first?

    Ok, I agree. You DO need a warning, but I'm guessing it's not exactly the warning you had in mind.

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  11. Re:Yes it can stop animated gifs by JanneM · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I sort of wanted that as well, previously. But I've been using the Adblocker extensions for the past six months now, and as it turns out 99.9% of all animated gif:s I do not want to see are part of an ad, which Adblocker kills.

    With Adblocker and the Flash click-to-view extension, there is very rarely any unwanted blinking or moving on webpages nowadays.

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