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Look Inside A PC-killing WIPO Treaty

mouthbeef writes "The Broadcast Treaty is a proposal from a WIPO Subcommittee that's supposedly about stopping 'signal theft.' But along the way, this proposal has turned into a huge, convoluted hairball that threatens to make the PC illegal, trash the public domain, break copyleft and put a Broadcast Flag on the Internet. The treaty negotiation process is unbelievably convoluted and hard-to-follow, and they've just wrapped up the latest round in Geneva. But for the first time, a really large group of "civil society" orgs were accredited to attend. Me and another EFF staffer and the Coordinator of the Union for the Public Domain created a heavily editorialized impressionistic transcript of the meeting (EFF mirror, UPD mirror), trying to untie the knots in the negotiation. This is the first time that a really exhaustive peek inside a WIPO treaty negotiation has ever been published -- get it while it's legal!"

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  1. Hooray for the UN! by penginkun · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Boy, it's obvious the UN isn't in the pocket of the Big Corporations, yessiree!

    Will they outlaw ink and paper next?

  2. Stop stealing the photons I'm emitting by IvyMike · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm serious. I keep emitting photons, and all these people keep engaging in signal theft, usually by looking at me, or even more nefariously by having cameras.

    1. Re:Stop stealing the photons I'm emitting by IvyMike · · Score: 5, Interesting
      Since when things flouresce, they emit photons, I was going to make a joke that I weara lot of DayGlo clothing with daylight fluorescent pigments. But then I ran across this fact on google:

      Clothing: Nearly all laundry detergents contain a fluorescent dye that emits strongly in the blue when exposed to sunlight. The blue light counteracts the yellow tinge of old or incompletely cleaned clothing and thus makes clothes appear cleaner than they really are. The dye is designed to fluoresce in daylight.

      You learn something new every day.
  3. The world gets together to talk by darth_MALL · · Score: 5, Insightful

    and look what they choose to do with it. *sigh*

  4. The trouble with vague legislation by freejung · · Score: 5, Interesting
    from Article 16, Alternative V:

    2. In particular, effective legal remedies shall be provided against those who:
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    (iii) participate in the manufacture, importation, sale, or any other act that makes available a device or system capable of decrypting or helping to decrypt an encrypted program-carrying signal.

    This is obviously insanely vague. Now, they might argue that obviously they didn't mean to outlaw PCs and televisions with this wording, and of course it wouldn't be interpreted that way. But that's not the point.

    The point is, such vague and overly inculsive laws set a dangerous precedent. Later on, when somebody wants to outlaw some new form of decryption technology, all they have to do is point to the language of this law and say, "see, this is exactly the sort of thing it's talking about." Never mind that this language is so broad it could be applied to almost anything with circuitry.

    The freedom you give up now, assuming the goodwill of the powers that be, is the freedom you won't have later when that goodwill runs out.

    1. Re:The trouble with vague legislation by pclminion · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Never mind that this language is so broad it could be applied to almost anything with circuitry.

      Just circuitry? This treaty refers to a "device or system." That's by no means limited to circuitry.

      The atmosphere is a system, a physical one, which provides sustenance to humans and allows them to remain alive so they can decrypt signals. Hence, this treaty outlaws the atmosphere.

      A human is a system, a biological one, which is capable of decrypting signals. Hence, this treaty outlaws humans.

      The universe is a system, the ultimate system, in which the pesky humans and their decrypting computers exist. Were it not for the universe, nobody would be able to break their precious signals. Hence, this treaty outlaws the universe.

      Jeez, if you're going to hold people to the letter of the law, you better make damn sure your law doesn't accidentally outlaw the universe.

  5. Re:That else are the gonna do? by Planesdragon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    After all... the fact that George W Bush is President proves that we do not have a democracy.

    Not at all.

    The fact that Gore aquiesced and neither Gore's nor Bush's supporters rebelled due to the court's decision and the Senate's failure to act is proof that we DO have a democracy.

    The fact that the Senate didn't do their job and debate the Florida results in Congress, which essentially gave Bush the presidency, is proof that each left-wing Senator elected before 2000 is a pansy and a pushover who should resign.

  6. Re:That else are the gonna do? by Xaleth+Nuada · · Score: 5, Informative

    One common fallacy that keeps coming up in all these debates with regards to the 2000 election is the word democracy. This is the one word that everyone keeps saying and yet doesn't apply. Why?

    Because The United Stated of America is a REPUBLIC. Yes the citizens are given the right to vote. But unlike a true (read: classical) democracy we do not vote on the specific issues, except in state or local elections. We vote in represenatives to do our voting for us. In ancient Greece (Athens) every voting citizen would gather together and vote on the issues that the government was dealing with (taxes, war, trade, etc.) One citizen, one vote. Or as we like to call it: The Popular Vote. (Popular being Populus or Population)

    We don't do that in the US. Our Presidental elections were set up from the beginning with an electoral college. We vote to tell other people how to vote. This is the foundation of a Republic (see the combo of the word represent and public?) Etymology and History are neat huh?

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  7. Re:Relax, it's only a treaty. by Alsee · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You have it BACKWARDS. The US and corporations are pushing *for* this treaty. The purpose is to shut down the pesky public and pesky innovators with things like VCRs and the internet and PVRs and opensorce software that can allow a computer to be or do anything with 'content'.

    Corporations especially want to eliminate that pesky 'fair use' nonsense.

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  8. Re:That else are the gonna do? by Tristan7 · · Score: 5, Funny

    And as much as I hate what my senators vote for, they do represent the firmly held beliefs of the assholes that live down the street.