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SCO posts Q2 Loss, Gets $11k from Linux

Paul Hands sent us linkage to SCOs Q2 Financials. "The highlights are that SCOX only collected $11k (yes, K) for that much-discussed license for EV1 and other Licensees. Cost of that $11k was well over $4M. Overall, revenue was just over $10M, and they made a net loss applicable to common stockholders of $14,959,000, or $1.06 per diluted common share." Update According to the SCO conference call, this isn't accurate.. their Linux extortion income will be listed in the Q3 financials.

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  1. You varmints! It's Yosemite Darl! by i_want_you_to_throw_ · · Score: 5, Funny

    Yosemite Darl is the meanest, toughest, rootin-est,tootin-est cowboy there ever was and you should be ashamed of yourself for rustlin' away his code, pardner. Why its getting so a man can't earn a dishonest livin no more.

    Now let's all sing with Darl (while reading the SCO finances) ... "I can't get a long little dogey, I can't even get one that's small, I can't get a long little dogey, I can't get a dogey at all". (Profuse apologies to Yosemite Sam)

    1. Re:You varmints! It's Yosemite Darl! by cosmo7 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I guess it would have been harder for him to have told his father this:

      "We went out one day and noticed that no one was buying our cows because everyone was getting free cows. So we went over to where the free cows were and accused the free cow people of stealing our cows because they had horns and udders just like our cows. We want $699 per cow. Then it turned out that the cows aren't related but we had a showdown with the IBM boys because they had bought our cows in the past and had made bells for them and they were putting similar bells on the free cows. In the meantime it turns out that our cows don't actually belong to us, but to Mr Novell, who pays us to look after them -- it's as simple as that."

  2. No improvements forecasted by Mz6 · · Score: 5, Interesting
    After reading CNET's version of this story (which also gives a good summary on what SCO is doing). SCO's forecast for next quarter doesn't really improve on last ones. The article states that this quarter (ending 31 July) SCO only expects revenue to fall between $10-12 million. But my favorite part of the article was this nice little blurb at the very bottom.

    "The company also announced on Thursday that it had notified the Berlin-Bremen, Stuttgart and Frankfurt Freiverkehr stock exchanges that its ticker symbol had been listed without the company's permission. SCO is asking the exchanges to remove the symbol."

    What's next? CNET gets a "Cease & Desist" letter from SCO because the company's name was used in this story?

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    1. Re:No improvements forecasted by garcia · · Score: 5, Funny

      What's next? CNET gets a "Cease & Desist" letter from SCO because the company's name was used in this story?

      Nah, Slashdot is next because their users are expressing negative opinions that haven't been proven in court and they are the reason for the decline of SCOX stock.

  3. Watch... by JoeLinux · · Score: 5, Funny

    Darl's going to turn around and claim that this is proof that the Linux Business models don't work.

  4. Well, they got.. by bl4nk · · Score: 5, Funny

    SCOwned.

  5. If they have Q2 losses... by kpansky · · Score: 5, Funny

    If SCO is having Q2 losses, maybe they should upgrade to Quake 3, or at least get a new videocard.

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  6. article. by abscondment · · Score: 5, Informative
  7. SCO nees to work a bit harder by bpland · · Score: 5, Funny
    I know i'm enjoying watching this all end.

    From SCO Keeps SinkingThu Motley Fool
    "Management blamed the slow sales on a "lack of SCOsource licensing revenue." SCOsource is the Linux users' shakedown program. Apparently, no one is paying up. It took in $11,000 last quarter. That's not a typo. President and CEO Darl McBride paid more lip service to "increasing shareholder value," but you really have to wonder about the viability of his vision when his firm's most engrossing initiative brings in less money than the guys who mow lawns in my neighborhood."

    rofl :)

  8. This might be Modded Funny, But... by Ieshan · · Score: 5, Funny

    I mean, this post might be modded funny, but I swear, I didn't make it up. It's right out of the article.

    "Our revenue for the second quarter was consistent with our expectation and we also incurred significant expenses for the impairment of goodwill and intangibles and for the exchange of our Series A-1 Convertible Preferred Stock. Both of these charges negatively impacted our second quarter results," said Darl McBride, President and CEO. "As the company looks forward to the last two quarters of fiscal year 2004 we are committed to increasing shareholder value through profitable operations and increasing cash flow from our UNIX division as well as remaining focused on our intellectual property lawsuits and licensing strategies."

    Sometimes you don't even have to try to make a funny post, because the dialogue you'd put in Darl's mouth is actually less funny than his own idiotic ramblings.

  9. My favorite quote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    From a similar article

    "A legal victory looks highly unlikely, and even if a decision went SCO's way, the probable remedy would not be money for SCO, but a rewrite for Linux, something the open-source community would accomplish in the blink of an eye."

  10. 15 copies by JohnGrahamCumming · · Score: 5, Funny

    Wow, at $699 a go, they managed to license 15 copies!

    Go SCO!

    John.

  11. Shocked! by Marc+Desrochers · · Score: 5, Funny
    I wonder what all the people who believed in their Linux licensing plan are thinking right now.

    Maybe we should ask him...

    Bill, what do you think?

  12. Weird... by GillBates0 · · Score: 5, Funny
    I don't see the expense figures for crack/weed listed there. Maybe it's included under "Amortization of intangibles " or "Operating expenses".

    Hope Darryl clarified on this during their 11am EDT conference today.

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  13. Text is wrong, this quarter does not include EV1 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    During the conference call earlier in the day, SCO stated that the EV1 revenue was not included in this quarter, and will start showing up in Q3.

  14. Re:And the best bit is... by FuzzyDaddy · · Score: 5, Funny

    They still have $6,767,000 worth of goodwill - I guess they didn't subtract out the badwill.

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  15. Re:SCO dead pool by tntguy · · Score: 5, Funny

    Midnight, January 1, 1970

  16. The Motley Fool by Jaywalk · · Score: 5, Interesting
    The Motley Fool published a good article about SCO's latest quarterly results. They've been increasingly dubious about SCO's claims and this article has pretty much crossed the line to outright contempt for SCO's activities. Choice quotes include calling SCO "something of a laughingstock" and referring to SCOSource as "the Linux users' shakedown program." They have a few things to say about Darl's skills as CEO too.

    Remember, these aren't techies talking about the technical merits of the case. These are financial guys commenting about SCO's quality as an investment. It nice to see someone other than technical folk scoffing at this sideshow.

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  17. Litigation? by Claire-plus-plus · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I seem to remember once reading that a few yeard ago Darl was the CEO of a company that sued IBM over intellectual property rights. The article stated that on that occasion IBM bought out the company and Darl received a big payout from the shareholders.

    Some people say that SCO are only attacking IBM this time in an attempt to be bought out. In fact I just found this, an open statement by Darl that he would welcome IBM buying SCO to make the problem go away: SCO's CEO says buyout could end Linux fight. I think that settles it. SCO doesn't want to win in court they don't even want to go to court, they just want to scare IBM into buying them out.

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  18. Stock down 9% already by Animats · · Score: 5, Insightful
    In response to the earnings report, the stock has dropped 9% today.

    The stock has been around $5 ± 0.50 for weeks. You can't short a NASDAQ listed stock when the price is below $5, so the bears drop out at that point. Trading volume has been down for weeks. SCO's concern with being listed on some additional exchanges may be that they have different rules on short positions, allowing shorting at lower price points.

    The full numbers from this quarter aren't out yet, so it's hard to figure out when they run out of cash. It looks like they have three to six quarters of cash left at their current burn rate, but that's a rough estimate. Unless they get new financing, it looks like they won't make it to the IBM trial date in 2005.

    At this point, the remaining stockholders who think SCO has a case against IBM might well ask why SCO wants additional delay. SCO can't afford much more delay.

  19. Re:And the best bit is... by cynic10508 · · Score: 5, Funny

    How about a business karma modifier?

  20. Do NOT support SCO!!! by rice_burners_suck · · Score: 5, Insightful
    The highlights are that SCOX only collected $11k (yes, K) for that much-discussed license for EV1 and other Licensees.

    I am very happy to read that SCO has made such a large net loss. This is not because support for Linux as much as it is because I do not support the type of business practice employed by SCO.

    I strongly believe that companies have a duty not only to their owners, but also to their customers, suppliers, and even to their competitors. The last one, the duty to competitors, is a duty to compete based on a better products and services, better marketing, better pricing, a better overall customer experience, etc.

    I think that, while litigation is sometimes necessary, most issues can be settled outside of the court system in a mutually beneficial way, or at least in a way that minimizes the damages to all parties involved. Further, litigation and other legal actions (lobbying for legislation, etc.) should not be employed as a source of profit for a company, but only to solve legitimate problems.

    In the case of SCO, I think they have thrown all good business practices out the window, while embracing litigation as a potential source of profit. Essentially, instead of elevating themselves by making sound decisions and consistently improving themselves, they are trying to become elevated by pushing others down. Kind of like the "everything is relative" argument - if you push someone down, then you could say that you have elevated yourself even though you stayed in the same place. This is what SCO is trying to do, and it is not beneficial to anybody except, if they manage to pull it off, themselves. This is a very egoistic and self centered company with no desire to make anything of value. And companies like this should not be supported.

    For those reasons, I am glad that SCO had these losses, and I hope that investors pull their investments, new investors don't buy SCO stock, and potential customers go elsewhere. This evil company should not be supported by anybody.

    Not to mention that I strongly believe that there is no legal issue of any SCO code being copied into other software. In fact, I believe quite the opposite: Either:

    1. No code was ever stolen from SCO.
    2. Or, SCO plagiarized (for lack of a better term) source code from other sources, and later, upon finding identical code elsewhere, either believe that the theft happened in the other direction, or don't believe it themselves but hope to convince others so that they may profit from it.
  21. Re:And the best bit is... by CrazyLion · · Score: 5, Informative

    Just to clarify. Goodwill in this case is an accounting concept referring to accounting treatments of premium paid in a merger. Until fairly recently Goodwill used to be amortized (i.e. company would write it off over time). Under new rules, it's carried indefinitely and assessed for impariment. According to SCO's March '04 10-Q, most of their goodwill comes from acquisition of Vultus, Inc. Not very much related to the loss of face in the Linux debucle.

  22. OMG! by Royster · · Score: 5, Funny

    DOn't tell me that *foreign brokers* are evading SEC rules *which don't apply to them* by *trading in their own countries*! What fiends!

    Now, if we can only link them to terrorists, we can torture them.

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  23. Piercing the Corperate Veil by alficles · · Score: 5, Informative
    Actually, IBM may be able to Pierce the Corporate Veil and go after Darl himself. While they may or may not be able to put him in jail, they can sue him for way more than he owns (which is much more than he is worth). In order to go after Darl, IBM would have to prove three things: (quoted from linked article)
    According to the court, the instrumentality rule requires proof of three elements:
    1. complete domination and control of both the entity's policy and business practices;
    2. use of such control to commit fraud or wrong, breach of a legal duty, or a dishonest or unjust act (such as using such control to avoid personal liability previously assumed by an individual); and
    3. that the aforesaid control and breach of duty must proximately cause the injury or loss.
    IMO, the Nazgul should have no trouble with showing these in a countersuit. Darl is not going to be out of hot water any time soon.
  24. Re:And the best bit is... by AndroidCat · · Score: 5, Funny
    They still have $6,767,000 worth of goodwill - I guess they didn't subtract out the badwill.

    Ah, then obviously they're listing the gross goodwill. I doubt they have any net goodwill at all.

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  25. "Goodwill" by Theatetus · · Score: 5, Informative

    Goodwill is a term of art in accounting. There's a brief summary on Wikipedia. Essentially, "goodwill" is the magic dark matter of accounting that is used to explain whither otherwise inexplicable money goes and whence it comes. For instance, say one of your company's buildings appraised for $1 million but somebody else bought it for $2 million. That goes down as $1 million of "goodwill" so that the numbers balance out. Conversely, if someone else's building appraised for $2 million but he sold it to you for $1 million, that's another example of $1 million of goodwill on your books.

    Hint relevant to this situation: it applies to securities as well.

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    1. Re:"Goodwill" by cweditor · · Score: 5, Informative

      The charge is for "the impairment of goodwill and intangibles." This is a specific accounting situation covering the decline in value of an intangible asset such as a corporate brand, see the Financial Accounting Standards Board statement 142 or the March 2002 CPA Journal.

  26. Re:And the best bit is... by HungWeiLo · · Score: 5, Funny

    And to clarify further: Goodwill is where you will find SCO stock certificates in about 6 months. They will be used to wrap fragile pottery and dinner plates, so they will not break on the way home.

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