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The State of Urban Wireless

mcabiling writes "Julian Priest has released an excellent study on the development of wireless broadband in London. The study analyzes freenetworks versus commercial hotspot services and home wifi usage. The paper is licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike license so you can also pick up from there and cover your city. There is one for Paris in the works. Does anyone have any other similar studies of wireless cities ?"

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  1. I've got one!! by ObsessiveMathsFreak · · Score: 4, Funny

    Dublin, Ireland. Pop 1.3m

    Free Hotspots: 0
    Commercial Hotspots: ~10

    Come to Ireland! Escape microwave cancer!
    Oh wait..

    Ireland pop ~4m. Mobile phones ~3.5m

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    1. Re:I've got one!! by bigman2003 · · Score: 1

      Welcome to Woodland California-

      # of hotspots- ???

      But just drive by my house and you can get 3mb down 1mb up...due to the fact that a piece of crap Linksys wireless game connector wouldn't let me change the SSID from 'Linksys'.

      The router is the garage, so you should do fine from the street.

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    2. Re:I've got one!! by Jahf · · Score: 1

      Heh, at least you had an excuse beyond being plain clueless.

      Welcome to Nederland, Colorado ....

      Population: 1500

      # Hotspots found in a 1 hour netstumbler session with a built-in (read: not very sensitive and very directional) antenna: 21

      # Hotspots total: Unknown but I would guess over 40 if you count the ones who disabled SSID broadcast and who live in the 2 divisions I didn't drive through. If I'm right, that is approximately 1 AP for every 38 people ...

      # Hotspots found broadcasting DHCP and NAT'ing to their ISP without MAC filters and using default passwords: 4

      # Wireless ISPs: 2

      # Wireless ISPs accidentally giving out free bandwidth (read: completely commercially compromised) to the 4 open Hotspots: 2 (of 2)

      I documented which hotspots were giving away bandwidth for free along with MAC addresses and IP addresses so that the ISPs could track them down. Question is, if the ISPs want to go after the user, is the user smart enough to even attempt to fix the problem (jeez, just disabling SSID broadcast would be a start).

      This doesn't count the number of 802.11b -clients- ... given that we have 2 wireless ISPs I would guess there are at least 50 end-users out there (I'm one).

      Intereference on 2.4GHz is definitely my biggest network woe today. I dearly miss my last address's 400' proximity to a DSL enabled CO :)

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  2. In other words... by Motherfucking+Shit · · Score: 5, Funny
    The paper is licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike license so you can also pick up from there and cover your city.
    In other words, mi CCASA es su CCASA?
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    1. Re:In other words... by cynic10508 · · Score: 1, Funny

      Donde es el BBAÑO?

  3. Netstumbler by swordboy · · Score: 3, Informative

    NetStumbler has had GPS-WiFi mapping for some time now. This is not new.

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    1. Re:Netstumbler by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      OR http://wigle.net has an even more advanced wireless network mapping thing going on (via this year's WWWD).

    2. Re:Netstumbler by darkfire5252 · · Score: 1

      From the article:

      This study looks at how wireless networking (WLAN) in London has developed over the last three years from hacktivist pastime to mainstream pursuit. Comparing networks built by freenetwork groups, commercial hotspot providers, and public sector initiatives the study also examines the sales and uptake of WLAN equipment and makes some direct measurements of wireless activity in the Greater London area. Finally the study looks at the development of WLAN in the home and makes a recommendation for a Wireless Festival for London in 2004/2005.

      Call me crazy, but this seems like a little more than a listing of the locations of networks, like one might get from the netstumbler-GPS combo. Perhaps glancing at the article before you declare it outdated and done before would be helpful.

  4. Paris? by JemVai777 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Isn't covering her up too late now?

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  5. New Study.. by StacyWebb · · Score: 2, Insightful

    the /. effect on london servers. (7 posts and the site has been /.ed)

    1. Re:New Study.. by l0wland · · Score: 2, Funny
      7 posts and the site has been /.ed

      Welcome. You arrived late at the party. After 3 posts it was already gone.

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    2. Re:New Study.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      London servers falling down...
      falling down...
      falling down...

  6. Google Cache by zgornz · · Score: 4, Informative

    Google Cache
    /.'ed already!? *Sigh* Why doesn't slashdot mirror what it posts...

    1. Re:Google Cache by hey · · Score: 1

      The Google Cache doesn't help with images.

  7. Jerusalem by Zachary+Kessin · · Score: 2, Informative

    I know of at least 1 hot spot in Jerusalem, "Caffit" on Rehov Emek Rafaim in the German colony. To bad its a resturant I really don't like. I think the King David hotel has wireless but its not free.

    I would love to know of more in Jerusalem and Tel Aviv.

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    1. Re:Jerusalem by yoz · · Score: 2, Informative

      When I went over to Jerusalem in November with a friend of mine we picked up an open node while standing in Kikar Tzion (Zion Square) - it was on the corner closest to that little side road that runs down towards the park, I can't remember the name. (Opposite side to Ben Yehuda)

      Said friend of mine was quite keen on netstumbling during that trip... continually walking around with a laptop open on top of the baby buggy containing her daughter!

      If you can afford to fly King David class on El-Al, the KD Lounge in Ben-Gurion airport has a free node. Not sure if you can pick it up outside.

    2. Re:Jerusalem by Zachary+Kessin · · Score: 1

      Cool, I've yet to really try that. The only reason that I know about that one hot spot is that they had a sign out. Actually my laptop needs to be taken in for repairs. I don't see the point of a wireless card in my desktop.

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  8. ap ap bridge? by appelflapje · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    I know it's offtopic, but does anyone here know if it's possible to build a wireless network bridge with two Access Points? So that it's possible to connect two networks to eachother?

  9. Cleveland by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Here in Cleveland, I get WiFi access to the Internet (HTTP and SSL only) for $49/month in the downtown core and along the highway corridor.

    I find it's great when I'm commuting (with someone anti-social driving) and when I have time to kill between seeing clients. The other massagists find it's great to keep with current events.

  10. Article: "Skeptics Question Wi-Fi's Viability" by G4from128k · · Score: 4, Insightful

    An associated Press article questions the commercial viability of WiFi in the U.S. Said one company that recently left the business after building only one hot spot, "Management believes that only Wi-Fi equipment manufacturers are currently successful in generating profits in the Wi-Fi industry, and service providers have yet to develop a profitable business model," With the ubiquity of computers in business, the modest price of broadband, and the very low price of WAPs, it seems that more people and businesses are simply giving WiFi away, leaving service providers with no profits.

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    1. Re:Article: "Skeptics Question Wi-Fi's Viability" by betanerd · · Score: 1

      I think the parent post addressed profitability more than viability. If no business would let customers use the restroom. I'm sure the pay toilet business would grow. But I don't hear anyone complaining that toilet (or bidet for our European friends) makers are making money while bathroom providers have been driven out of business.

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  11. Will the US learn? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I hope people in the US read this and learn about it. It seems like our networks are already becoming so mushed together that you have to check some wifi hot spot website every time before you go somewhere.

    This overlapping seems like a fairly decent idea but considering alot of networks already require you to either register or prepay before using, it seems unlikely that they would want to "team up" for free wifi.

  12. Brussels open initiative by crashedbutterfly · · Score: 2, Informative
    A wireless grid of open hotspots...

    To be found on http://www.reseaucitoyen.be

  13. NYC Wireless by mojoNYC · · Score: 5, Informative

    i can't say enough good things about http://NYCwireless.org these guys have done an amazing job at building up a free as in beer wireless network all around New York City--take a look at the coverage map...Starbucks? hah!

  14. New York City coverage by Randar+the+Lava+Liza · · Score: 2, Informative

    Check out NYC Wireless for a pretty comprehensive map of wifi hubs. And these are just the reported ones! There's some serious coverage in our fair city...

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  15. Re:ap ap bridge? by Omega1045 · · Score: 2, Informative
    D-Link

    Linksys

    Cisco

    I know many WAPs can also serve as a bridge.

    Here is a link to a neat resource that can be used to find this info: Google

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  16. Re:ap ap bridge? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I bought a D-Link AP and I remember seeing the admin tool that same feature. Unfortunately I don't have two of these, but officially they support that.

  17. Korea by Daengbo · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I just recently moved to Korea, and one of the stats I've heard from the gov't is that greatest rate of per capita wireless availablilty,

    1. Re:Korea by Daengbo · · Score: 0, Redundant

      Umm, yeah, that would be greates rate in the world. Preview didn't help.

  18. Austin hotspot by bassmastergeneral · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The Austin Chronicle has a nice story on austin's free hotspots setup by, lessnetworks.com, austinfree
    There seems to be a rather large push for free hotspots in Austin, TX. Its quite noticable that starbucks and TMobile have about the only pay hotspot in town. Its popping up in the strangest of places, for instance the dog and duck pub now offers wireless.

    1. Re:Austin hotspot by YetAnotherDave · · Score: 1

      >>for instance the dog and duck pub now offers wireless

      Not only free wifi, $3.50 pints of guinness - why weren't these articles posted last week, _before_ my visit to austin...

  19. WiFi and Property rights by G4from128k · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The June 8,2004, Wall Street Journal carried an article on "Airports Clash With Airlines Over Wi-Fi"(sorry, I don't have a link). Airlines want to use Wifi for both customer lounges and for wireless IT services -- think wireless data terminals for scanning and tracking baggage. But the airport terminal operators claim they own the airwaves and have the right control and sell wifi access.

    This could impact regulation of WiFi in the U.S. As the article pointed out: If the FCC takes action, it could have broader implications for Wi-Fi's dissemination. That's because the airlines are asking the FCC a crucial question: whether a landlord has the right to bar tenants from setting up individual Wi-Fi networks. "This is about landlord-tenant rights and whether a landlord can dictate to a tenant how you use unlicensed frequencies," says Laura Smith, president of the Industrial Telecommunications Association, which has asked the FCC for guidance on behalf of the airlines.

    I wonder if other building owners will outlaw tenant's wifi setups in favor of selling access to a landowner-run wifi networ.

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    1. Re:WiFi and Property rights by Zachary+Kessin · · Score: 1

      Well one difference with this is that in theory the airport has a contractual relationship with the airlines. In theory they can put a clause about WiFi in that contract. Of course they may not have thought of it at the right time.

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  20. Bluetooth Hotspots? by dschuetz · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I don't own a laptop, but I do own a Palm Tungsten T3 with built-in bluetooth, and I've found recently that I wished hotspots spoke Bluetooth. Has anyone started seriously deploying public (free or pay) hotspots with BT?

    I'd think that all the bluetooth-enabled phones out there would be a natural target for this kind of service, where people could get internet surfing for cheaper than the on-air data rates the cell phone companies charge.

    Or are their technical reasons why this won't work in practice? I really don't want to wait for the next Tungsten rev (4? 5? 6?) to finally build-in 802.11.... (and I have no interest in filling my *1* slot with a wifi card, esp. if it's got an externally-protruding antenna).

    1. Re:Bluetooth Hotspots? by Jahf · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Bluetooth range is purposefully very short. Generally speaking more than 6' away and you're going to lose connection with most devices. Remember that it was meant to be a personal network protocol.

      I'm sure with boosted signals you could broadcast -to- other Bluetooth devices over far greater distances, but don't forget that those devices have to transmit -back- to the signal source. It doesn't do much good to have a 1-way network connection (works for headphones, not for bi-directional data).

      Also remember that bluetooth devices are kept low-power because they tend to be put against parts of the human body. If you look at the current 802.11b offerings, most are too strong to be in direct contact with a body part and some are coming out that are so strong they aren't legally allowed in your laptop (for instance, 300mW and 400mW PCMCIA cards for use in wireless ISP devices). Since bluetooth is usually meant for phones, and phones are meant for your ear, they have to obey the same transmission strength guidelines as the other parts of the phone.

      One of the things that make 802.11* economical for hotspot usage is that a single piece of equipment can cover a fairly wide area. The number of bluetooth access points needed for the same area would be extremely costly and complicated.

      I don't expect you'll see it Bluetooth access points in the same manner as WiFi. What you -might- eventually see is Bluetooth replaced in favor of low-power 802.11* or 802.16*. I could see a device that used those protocols with a low power to send to a headset and which also allowed you to go into a high-power mode where the phone was disabled (to keep you from sticking it next to your head) that allowed it to function as a full-power networking device.

      Now what might be useful is a combination 802.11* and Bluetooth chipset, both utilizing the same antenna. That may have interference issues, but I know that I've seen boxes with dual 802.11b cards, so perhaps the Bluetooth and WiFi chips could work together to figure out optimal channel usage to minimize interference.

      Or better yet, utilize a CTS protection mode on both devices so that only one was transmitting at the same time (your 802.11 data rate might suffer while on a continuous bluetooth headset call, but I think it would work, especially given the small amount of data that a voice broadcast requires).

      I think Bluetooth was an interesting idea, but one that could be easily obsoleted by a standardize low power option for 802.11/802.16. Especially if/when the WiFi + Cellular phones ever come about.

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  21. You're being watched. by mratitude · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Is it still true that you can travel from the southern to the northern most point in Great Britain and be visually monitored the entire trip? Isn't the population of London the most technologically monitored and snooped-on population in the world, second only to China and a few other totalitarian countries?

    Could someone remind me how I'm supposed to get excited when governments are doing something for the "common good"?

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    1. Re:You're being watched. by Peter+Cooper · · Score: 1

      I'm pretty sure there isn't any CCTV at Dunnet Head, nor on most of the roads leading up to it.. come on, you're almost 100 miles away from the nearest city up there and the roads are ramshackle, and that's being optimistic.

    2. Re:You're being watched. by mratitude · · Score: 0

      So is WiFi and other network communications being monitored as thoroughly as the public commons?

      Just curious.

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  22. more wireless locations than restaurants by kaan · · Score: 1

    I live in Austin, and was pleased to read that we're going to see free wireless in new locations. And I don't mean more restaurants and pubs, but also in some of the local parks and public areas. I don't have any references to cite, but I recently read that Schlotzsky's (local sandwich shop that has offered free wireless access to customers for several years) has teamed up to set up wireless access in some of the parks near the downtown area. This might move beyond the downtown parks to include other locations, but for now it's another great step toward unwiring the city of Austin.

    1. Re:more wireless locations than restaurants by SethJohnson · · Score: 1

      Check the Chronicle from last week. The cover story is about free wi-fi. Republic Square Park (downtown on fourth street) already has free wi-fi. Next up is Auditorium Shores.

    2. Re:more wireless locations than restaurants by bassmastergeneral · · Score: 1

      Yah, what seth said. Check out that article. I do believe that the downtownl library has it. Schlotszky's was one of the first here in austin. I remember driving there just to check it out, oh-those were the days... checkign your email from schlotsky's parking lot.

  23. i hate verizon... by mattkime · · Score: 3, Interesting

    you know what sucks? someone putting up a commercial hotspot near your home or office. nyc is so dense to begin with, and now we have networks penetrating each other's walls. verizon is putting WiFi spots around the city - but only their own customers can use them. the 802.11b/g frequency range is limited - a couple people in one area setting up their own wifi networks quickly causes problems. luckily, i've only run into this at work, otherwise verizon would be having trouble keeping aluminum foil off a nearby hotspot.

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    1. Re:i hate verizon... by Lord+Omlette · · Score: 1

      What sort of problems? (just curious)

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    2. Re:i hate verizon... by mattkime · · Score: 1

      you get significantly reduced range and increased noise.

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    3. Re:i hate verizon... by Lord+Omlette · · Score: 1

      Argh, it's like everything else: X is good. X is fantastic. If everyone has X, we will all be better off. So everyone gets X. Strangely, X's value and/or utility decreases. WTF

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    4. Re:i hate verizon... by mdrn28 · · Score: 1

      Excellent example of the "fallacy of composition" from economics...

    5. Re:i hate verizon... by Lord+Omlette · · Score: 1

      Please elaborate.

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  24. World Wide War Drive 4 / WiGLE by BooTy6 · · Score: 2, Informative

    And don't forget that the World Wide War Drive 4 is currently running, from June 12th to 19th. WiGLE is doing file parsing and real-time stats and maps. WiGLE is the largest worldwide database of gps located wireless access points (currently at 1,214,408).

    1. Re:World Wide War Drive 4 / WiGLE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      WiGLE makes me wiggle!

      tee hee!

    2. Re:World Wide War Drive 4 / WiGLE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "just a little bit?"

  25. Navini networks by p0 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    We have a NLOS setup running with Navini Networks. However technically advanced or challenging the implementation is, customers are not willing to accept interruptions to their feed. In a nlos implementation as such, the service totally depends on the multipath signals, and we have found out to be most annoying to the customers are, the varying 'strong' spots. Technically, these are caused by changes to the surroundings (reflection path), weather and the antenna power. These can be acceptable to someone with fair knowledge of radio networks, but for the average Joe, having to move his CPE, or even changing its orientation for that matter, becomes a headache. How well can a nlos setup be done in a tightly packed urban area?

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  26. We need this in Canada! by spawnbsd · · Score: 1

    We've seen many urban wifi networks setup in Europe and the US, but what about Canada?

    Wifi hotspots (Intentional or not, hehe) are pretty common in Edmonton and Calgary. Now we just needs some of these access points linked together.

  27. Little Adelaide ... by AzMoo · · Score: 1

    Our little metropolis down here in Adelaide, Australia, has had a publically accessible Wireless network setup called Citilan for about a year now. It runs on 802.11b and it covers most of Adelaide CBD and some outer suburbs. I love it. Sunny day, sitting down by the river, notebook in front of me and working away through via the VPN. It's fantastic. Beats an office hands down!

  28. DETAILED Street-Level Maps of WiFi at WiFiMaps.com by drewzhrodague · · Score: 3, Informative
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  29. Re:ap ap bridge? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I use the Linksys solution - it acts as a cable (albeit an expensive low-bandwidth cable).

    It is a little finnicky (periodically both APs need to be rebooted when they decide that certain MAC addresses are stale) but it works.

  30. Portland, Oregon by Fanglord · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The Personal Telco Project in Portland, Oregon, is setting up free internet access points all over town (mostly in coffee shops), and invites home users to open their networks up, as well. There was a writeup about it in the most recent Willamette Week (weekly alternative newspaper based in Portland).

  31. Property rights and self interest. by twitter · · Score: 1
    I hope this gets laughed out. The whole point of unlicensed frequency is to let the public enjoy it's benefit in any way they can. Dumber things have been attempted. The greedheads are very clever to use the highly regulated airport environment to make case and have a chance of getting anywhere. Airports will have a good starting point for future propaganda that turns today's common sense on it's head. The thing to remember is that the public owns the spectrum, not government agencies, commercial broadcasters, or property owners.

    Movie theaters and other centers of idiotic greed have jamed cellphones and pagers. While I can admit that hearing cellphones go off in movie theaters is annoying, the problem rests with users not the phones. How would you like your doctor to not get a vibrating page because he was on call at a movie theater that blocked calls without notice? Interfering with licensed cell phone frequencies should earn such clueless people a stiff FCC fine. The public owns the spectrum, not the theater.

    There was another case I remember, of a ball park that thought it could override the FCC and prevent people from setting up free wireless access within range of the park. They wanted to sell access to their "captive" audience. The mistake being made, once again, is that the landlord somehow owns the spectrum inside the park. They are wrong, the public owns the spectrum regardless of what the ball park tries to set up.

    The airport is a brilliant place for greedheads to try to take ownership of the spectrum. Real and bogus safety concerns can be raised in such a technical environment. These concerns can easily be twisted into "property rights" propaganda. More importantly, there are multiple agencies who would claim to represent the public interest. If the greedheads work this right, they can leverage the effort of local, state and other federal agencies. They will all bombard the FCC and might even try to seize authority over the spectrum for themselves. It will make news and bullshit will spill forth into the minds of the public.

    To get an idea of how backward this is, ask yourself what rights you have to the spectrum on your own property. Can you control the flow of radio waves into your own property? No, you have no right to demand that TV, radio and other broadcasters cease to transmit because you don't want their signal in your house. Nor can you charge them for a chicken wire Faraday cage. That's reasonable. (Unreasonable laws exist which attempting to prevent you from listening to some of the broadcasts and sharing your information about how to do so.) Broadcasters include people with cell phones and wifi adapters.

    Blocking broadcasts will cause great economic harm for the benefit of a few operators. Regulation in this spirit will thwart any kind of mesh network building and preserve the obsolete natural monopoly enjoyed by incumbent telco providers. The most perverse aspect of this is that "property owners" may be convinced to go this way by the promise of profit from subscription wifi. What are the chances that profits from wifi and other wanna be telco services will ever be greater than the savings of simple co-operation and mesh networking?

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  32. Priest Rules! by bozendoka · · Score: 1

    I wasn't paying a whole lot of attention the first time I read the post, and I thought I saw "Judas Priest has released..."

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  33. Portland by Zilfondel2 · · Score: 1

    Rated by Intel (whose research headquarters is in the metro area) as the most unwired city in America. Personal telco (http://www.personaltelco.net/) has over 100 hotspots around the city, with a lot of cool cafes hooked up (free service, of course).

    Also, there is the fact that Linus Torvalds is moving to Portland soon - he just bought a house here.

    Guess it's going to be Portland vs. Seattle pretty soon! Can't wait to see the bombs falling soon!

  34. Wireless? by Audacious · · Score: 1

    I know someplace in Arizona which is wireless. Wireless, waterless, bathroomless, phoneless....

    (From someone who just got back from a trip where he was reminded what "Communing with Nature" is really all about!) :-)

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