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PlayStation 2 Sales Double Following Price Cut

Thanks to GamesIndustry.biz for its article discussing significant PlayStation 2 sales increases following the price cut to $149 last month. The piece quantifies: "Data released this week by Sony Computer Entertainment America shows that the console's sales rose by some 216 per cent in the week immediately following the price cut, with an increase of 141 per cent over the full period since the cut", and this means: "The increase in sales will have propelled the PlayStation 2 well past its console rivals, after Sony's platform slipped behind the Xbox in monthly sales for the first time since the launch of the Microsoft console." It's also explained: "The increased sales noted since the price cut have actually pushed year on year sales of the PS2 upwards, with 26 per cent growth on the same period last year - and should hopefully help to slow the overall decline in hardware sales which has hit the USA so far this year."

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  1. Price cut or E3? by NanoGator · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Well I really can't speak for anybody besides myself, but the main reason I'm interested in maybe getting a PS2 is GTA San Andreas. Price cut is icing.

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    1. Re:Price cut or E3? by NanoGator · · Score: 3, Insightful

      "A bit hasty aren't we? Especially since it'll be Xbox and PC bound just as soon, and look much better."

      No, and no. They have not announced when XBOX or PC versions will comeout, and I don't want to wait another 8 months like I did with Vice City. B'sides, there are other bargain bin PS2 games I wouldn't mind having.

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    2. Re:Price cut or E3? by Recoil_42 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Just remember that sony still has that deal going on with Rockstar for a timed exclusivity... The Xbox and PC versions will come months later...

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    3. Re:Price cut or E3? by karnal · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Thankfully, I've not had too much problem with Sony hardware.

      I still have an original PS-1 (with the AV outs on the back.) Sure, a glass of water spilled on it, requiring me to find a vendor to sell me a power supply, but that was it. Still plays discs fine.

      I also bought a PS2 when I knew that Soul Calibur 2 would be out for it. Now, it's relegated to playing DVDs to my el-cheapo home theatre (old business projector and blackout cloth screen.) Never missed a beat.

      I've also got a Sony STR-DE935 receiver that has never ever skipped a beat. I once thought it was having trouble with the subwoofer output; turns out that's my fault for putting an RCA cable where people walk!

      My only real issue is - I bought a minidisc player for about 200$ a few years back when I had hernia surgery. Pretty sweet unit, and sounds excellent with a good set of cans, however when you use said unit to record, anything in the last 15 minutes of the disc gets skippy. Plays all other recorded media fine (have a component recorder as well.)

      Sony's solution to fixing my MD player? Give us 150$ and we'll give you one of comparable value. Well, crap, I'd rather just go out and spend $$ on a new MD unit. Which I would, if the cheaper ones had mic and line ins (I could rant about this for hours, can't you tell?)

      So, for me, it's 1 of 4 broken in probably 6 years I've been aquiring Sony hardware. I'm just glad it was the MD player, and not the others... 'cause now I can justify that MP3 player I've been eyeing for 2 years!

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  2. Re:April of this year? by The+Briguy · · Score: 2, Informative

    I believe they are referring to the Xbox price cut from 179 to 149, which was in April.

  3. GTA:SA - Pre-purchased & paid in full... by potus98 · · Score: 2

    ...before any of the initial screenshots were released. I may buy another PS2, insert GTA:SA and weld the tray shut.

    TakeTwo Interactive: Your team at R* deserves even more cash bonuses. Keep up the great work.

    Yea, I sound like a fan-boy, but there's just something about the recent GTA games (>=GTA3) that I can't let go of. They've become theraputic after a long day at work.

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  4. Interesting. by ajutla · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Is it just me, or is that a little bit...strange? They cost $180 before the price drop, and then they cost $150 afterwards. It's not that much of a difference, is it? Certainly not enough to merit twice as many people rushing out and buying one...what kind of consumer thinks, ooh, I'd always wanted a PS2 but, y'know, they were just thirty dollars too expensive for me? I guess this is the same mentality that wouldn't hesitate to buy something that costs $19.99 but would flinch at anything costing a flat $20, because it's too expensive.

    I had a teacher once who was very adamant on that point. We don't need pennies, he would say. Pennies are a waste of metal. We need to take pennies out of circulation. Someone would invariably ask about things that cost $19.99. Well, we'd raise their price to $20, fool, he would say. This makes sense to me--and it made sense to him, but I imagine that a lot of people wouldn't be able to handle it. The economy would collapse. A very large segment of the population considers $19.99 to be a hell of a lot cheaper than $20. On the PS2 front, these same people are ecstatic about the gigantic price drop and buy twice as many of the things as they bought before.

    This could be a very interesting pricing strategy for video game console manufacturers:
    1. Debut the console at a price point of something like $300.
    2. Every three to six months thereafter (the timeframe could easily be extended or shortened) drop the price by, say, $10.
    3. Laugh as sales nearly double right after doing this.
    4. Repeat until console has saturated market.

    This reminds of the GameCube thing that happened a while ago. I believe it was last summer that Nintendo had a deal going with the Cube:

    Buy a $150 GameCube, and you get a free $50 game.

    Well, this was quite a deal, but sales were stagnant. Some months later, the marketing geniuses at the big N decided to adopt a new tactic:

    Buy a $100 GameCube, and you don't get anything for free.

    Lo and behold, sales shot up. Why? Well, obviously, because now it's fifty dollars cheaper!!! Never mind that you have to buy a game to play the stupid thing, it's just a better deal.

    It's interesting to think about this stuff.
    How stupid is the average shopper?

    1. Re:Interesting. by ajutla · · Score: 4, Insightful
      I'll reply to this, even though I'm a liberal :)

      I'll call bullshit on that. Where's your evidence? Have you taken any surveys to back that up? Furthermore, your assertion that the economy would collapse is simply foolish.

      Well, yes, I was indeed exaggerating about the economy's collapsing. And of course I've not really got any numbers to back up my assertions. I will say, though, that I believe people think "within the boundaries of price points." $19.99 is "under" $20, so it's okay, but something that actually costs $20 is not. It's a psychological thing that stores try to exploit by pricing everything one cent below its actual price: you look at the numbers and your mind immediately sees those nines and equates it as something less expensive than $20. Why would stores do it if it had no effect? If anything, they'd save ink by just writing "$20" instead of "$19.99" but, no, they price everything this way. It must work on some level. Probably not on as dramatic a level as I've intimated, but there's something in our subconscious...

    2. Re:Interesting. by newbiescum · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Many people were expecting a price cut to be in effect a few weeks before E3, or at least be announced during it. Sales may have just slowed down because people expected this, and now they are picking up again which is "doubling" sales.

    3. Re:Interesting. by bigman2003 · · Score: 2, Informative

      I was in the military (US) stationed in Germany.

      We didn't use pennies on post. It was very convenient.

      They just priced things normally, and the only time it mattered was with your final total at checkout.

      They just rounded the total. So if your total was $15.48, you just paid $15.50. $15.46, and you paid $15.45.

      So, there were no pennies really in circulation there. But for some strange reason, the US mint (whoever is in charge of money supply) moved a crapload of Susan B. Anthony dollars, and $2 bills over there.

      I *always* had $2 bills in my pocket. And usually some Susan B.'s too.

      But I was always jealous of the German 5 DM coin. Now THAT was useful. We should have a $5 coin.

      And dump the frickin' pennies.

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    4. Re:Interesting. by forkazoo · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Any more, I'm not sure there is any valid psychological reason for $19.99, as a penny has no value anymore. OTOH, we are all used to $19.99 being a real price, and "twenty bucks" being an informat shorthand, which would be slightly jarring to see coming from a 'respectable' establishment. The shift from normal would give us subconscious suspicions.

    5. Re:Interesting. by addaon · · Score: 5, Interesting

      (Probably late enough post that no one will read it, but what the hell.)

      The *.99 cent pricing strategy was NOT started as a psychological trick. It was first instituted by Macy's, the big department store, to solve a very specific problem.

      Scenario 1:

      I go in and buy a $5 whoosit, and bring it to the cashier. She rings me up for $5, I hand her a $5 bill, she smiles, and I walk away.

      And then she sticks the $5 bill in her pocket.

      Scenario 2:

      I go in and buy a $4.99 whoosit, and bring it to the casher. She rings me up for $4.99, I hand her a $5 bill, and she has to open the register to make change. Opening the register registers the sale, and she can no longer slip money into her pocket off the books.

      So Macy's decided to make $0.01 less on each sale, in exchange for essentially eliminating (this form of) employee theft.

      This problem could have been dealt with in other ways. Taxes now solve it; it's very rare that a price at a store like Macy's will fall on a dollar amount. Alternately, you can just convince the customer to always ask for a receipt... I just got back from China, and one of the things that is big over there (maybe required?) is for receipts to have small lottery scratch-offs on them, where you have some chance of winning a dollar or two. The idea is that this gives the customer motivation to ask for the receipt, which means there's always a record of the sale. Although the beneficiary in the government (the record is used to avoid tax fraud), the idea is the same.

      Even though everyone thinks that *.99 pricing is a psychological trick, that was not its original purpose. Whether or not it is effective at this adopted purpose is, as far as I know, an open question.

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    6. Re:Interesting. by Buran · · Score: 2, Funny

      He definitely wasn't going to Taco Bell, then.

    7. Re:Interesting. by bjb · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Actually, $2 bills never really went out of circulation or print, they're just not that popular.

      Every dozen-or-so years, the mint prints up a bunch of $2 bills. The last run was in 1995, and before that, 1976. Before that, something like 1959. Banks and most shops just hate the things because they don't have special drawers for them (typical cash registers have 4 slots: $1, $5, $10 and $20+).

      The hard part is finding them. I have one bank that I know of where I can find the things, and whenever I make my way there I'll "buy" 20 of them. Why? They're fun. You give them as a tip to a bartender and they're usually thrilled and give you great service the rest of the night. You use them when going through a toll booth where the attendant is used to combinations of "standard" bills, and you can totally catch them off guard and watch their brain stall. You can give them to friends who think its the greatest thing in the world and figure that they'll keep the bill in their wallet for good luck (until they're short on cash one day). So on and so forth.

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    8. Re:Interesting. by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 2, Insightful

      > Is it just me, or is that a little bit...strange? They cost $180 before the price
      > drop, and then they cost $150 afterwards.

      Actually, no. You can get the PS2 w/ online adapter for $150--those cost $200 before the price cut. I bought my first PS2 myself because of the price cut.

      > This reminds of the GameCube thing that happened a while ago. I believe it was last
      > summer that Nintendo had a deal going with the Cube:
      >
      > Buy a $150 GameCube, and you get a free $50 game.
      >
      > Well, this was quite a deal, but sales were stagnant. Some months later, the marketing
      > geniuses at the big N decided to adopt a new tactic:
      >
      > Buy a $100 GameCube, and you don't get anything for free.
      >
      > Lo and behold, sales shot up. Why? Well, obviously, because now it's fifty dollars
      > cheaper!!! Never mind that you have to buy a game to play the stupid thing, it's
      > just a better deal.

      Well, yes, it is. Could you get *any* fifty-dollar game? I bet you couldn't. With the new deal you can get *any* fifty-dollar game you want--or you can get a less-than-fifty-dollar game and spend less money.

      Chris Mattern

  5. One think I'm curious about by Tikiman · · Score: 3, Interesting

    How many people are buying new ones just to replace old ones? I had a bum unit that was repaired - $80. When it happened again, it was more cost effective to trade in the old one for $100 credit toward getting a new one. Perhaps more people are doing this now

  6. Slump in hardware sales? by obeythefist · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This is crazy. How can selling more consoles ever cure a slump in hardware sales? Consoles cause the slump in hardware sales. You buy a PC, a monitor. Costs a little more than a console but you get a much better product. And you might buy a new HDD, a new video card after a year or so. You don't have to, but upgrading a PC is usually cheaper than buying a new console, and it adds to hardware sales.

    Buying a console - you buy the console. Then you go spend your money on a big screen TV, new couch, and because console games usually last much less in terms of playability than a PC game, you buy a lot more games than you would on a PC to get the same "fix".

    Consoles do not help any aspect of the IT industry. Never.

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    1. Re:Slump in hardware sales? by CronoCloud · · Score: 2

      The story was referring to a drop in PS2 hardware sales. Not hardware sales in general.

      Ok so you buy upgrades every year. People don't buy new consoles every year. Usually it's about every 5 years unless you're a gaming enthusiast.

      What? You don't have a couch and TV already?

      I don't know where you got the idea that console games "last much less in terms of playability" because it most certainly isn't the case.

    2. Re:Slump in hardware sales? by fr0dicus · · Score: 4, Interesting
      As far as I can see, the latest graphics card costs twice as much as a new console...

      I don't think I've ever purchased a new TV or couch because of my console, but if I did I'd have the benefit of something decent sized to watch films and TV on too, not really a major drawback, I'd certainly rather have a 42" TV than an 18" monitor for my PC.

      In terms of games numbers, maybe I would have more games on the PC if that many good games ever came out for the damn thing; and there are plenty of console games with massive longevity that is there for a good reason, as opposed to having to go there in order to prop up the PC gaming industry in the monthly gaps between decent releases.

      Consoles help programmers, as they're a much bigger market for them to sell to. The PC hardware market has been up its own arse for so long selling unnecessary incremental upgrades (I'm talking massive 66Mhz rises in CPU speeds, releasing 4 different graphics cards within 10% of each other, Hard drives with 5% more storage than the last model), that it deserves to be in a slump. Finally they're innovating now, I feared we'd be stuck with Megahurtz, PCI and AGP for far too long. Face it, anyone using a PC for mainstream tasks don't need the extra 2Ghz that Intel want to sell them, they're bringing it on themselves.

  7. What do you expect? It's .biz by gumpish · · Score: 2, Funny

    "in the April this year"

    Anything from a .biz site is worthless.