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Wild 2 Comet Analyzed

Mz6 writes "Back in January Slashdot reported about the Stardust probe and its capture of particles from the tail of Wild 2 (pronounced 'Vilt 2'). You might also remember about how it snapped 72 images of the comet and sent them back to JPL. Well, after a detailed analysis of the comet Wild 2 and building upon preliminary analysis in March, it has left astronomers at JPL astounded at an object that has no known peers in the solar system. The comet has towering protrusions and steep-walled craters that seem to defy gravity, more than a dozen jets of material shoot out from its insides, dust swirls around the comet in unexpectedly dense pockets, and boasts 2 large 'footprints', aptly named Left and Right."

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  1. Links by Mz6 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Ok... Well when I submitted this story I forgot to include links to the Stardust Website, Wild 2 Photos, and some interesting Wild 2 Stereo Photos (2.0 MB). Best of all.. there's minimal reading, just pretty pictures. Enjoy :)

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    1. Re:Links by Petrol · · Score: 2, Funny

      But I suppose we can say LATFP :)

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  2. Creativity? by dalamarian · · Score: 2, Funny

    I know that there are countless countless objects in space... but I think they could come up with something better than left and right :)

  3. Towers? Jets? by Gunfighter · · Score: 3, Funny

    Sounds to me like this is just an inter-stellar traveller from afar making his daily rounds. I'm going to laugh if we try to land a probe on a comet and some windshield wiper-like apparatus fires up and sweeps the probe off.

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    1. Re:Towers? Jets? by JamJam · · Score: 2, Funny

      That sounds like something from the Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy. Actually I wouldn't be surprised if this comet is making its rounds looking for a new hyperspace bypass. Pack your things, we're all going to be demolished next Thursday...

      I wonder if it's just a coincidence as this is how my morning started:
      "You wake up. The room is spinning very gently round your head. Or at least it would be if you could see it which you can't..."

  4. Wow by 14erCleaner · · Score: 3, Funny
    I love ambiguous phrasing:

    The features have been named Left Foot and Right Foot in a new map of the comet, which is roughly 3 miles (5 kilometers) wide.

    That's one big map!

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    1. Re:Wow by JesseL · · Score: 2, Funny

      The comma follows "...new map of the comet". So, mister smarty pants, how would you phrase a similar sentence that actually was refering the the size of the map?

      Please note that I had the choice to post this or mod you into oblivion.

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  5. Gravity defying craters? by jabberjaw · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The article mentions Wild 2's low gravity, but I did not find mention of a gravity defying crater. Anyone care to share more about this?

    1. Re:Gravity defying craters? by Mz6 · · Score: 4, Informative
      Here's a bit as to why... From the article:
      Craters on Wild 2, presumably caused by run-ins with smaller objects, are strangely free of the powder, rocks and other debris commonly seen in impact craters on other bodies. Brownlee thinks this is because the comet is a bit like hard, frozen dirt that takes a hit but is brittle, so material flies out.

      And because the comet is so small, the material does not fall back.

      "There's almost no gravity at the surface," Brownlee said. "If you were standing on [the surface], you could jump into orbit."

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  6. Steep-walled craters that seem to defy gravity? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I think a distinct lack of gravity might be the cause of this.

  7. Gravity? by digidave · · Score: 4, Funny

    The comet has towering protrusions and steep-walled craters that seem to defy gravity

    Really? On an object flying in space? Whodathunkit?

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    1. Re:Gravity? by gowen · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Well, the planet Earth is an object flying in space, and yet our surface constructions seem constrained by the force of gravity.

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  8. What's it made of? by kippy · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I know it's a dirty snowball but I'm really curious about how much is water, how much is ammonia and other stuff and how much is rock. In the crazy proto-science of terraforming, comets are earmarked for use as atmosphere builders. Depending on the general makeup of the objects, it could drastically change the models for terraforming Mars, Venus and other places.

    1. Re:What's it made of? by Eclipce · · Score: 2, Informative

      It is not a "dirty snowball". See James McCanney Science. You will need to read his two books "Planet X, Comets and Earth Changes" and "Atlantis to Tesla - The Kolbrin Connection" in that order.

  9. And the number 2? by h00pla · · Score: 3, Funny
    Wild 2 (pronounced 'Vilt 2')

    And the 2, how do I pronounce that? Just asking...

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    1. Re:And the number 2? by hopemafia · · Score: 4, Informative

      Given that Vilt is the German pronounciation of Wild, I would guess 2 is pronouced zwei.

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    2. Re:And the number 2? by death_cheese · · Score: 2, Funny

      Hi, my name is Ed (pronounced "John"). Don't you love the English language?

    3. Re:And the number 2? by The+Grassy+Knoll · · Score: 2, Informative

      >I would guess 2 is pronouced zwei

      or even "tsvai"?

      Pedantically yours...

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  10. Wow! by Insomnia · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...you mean that stupid, stupid movie (Armageddon) actually might have had the look of a comet right? Who'd have thought.

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  11. I'm much more interested in the analysis ... by burgburgburg · · Score: 5, Funny
    of the Girls Gone Wild 2 comet.

    Much hotter then other space bodies, that much is known.

  12. Even Funnier by virg_mattes · · Score: 4, Funny

    > you mean that stupid, stupid movie (Armageddon) actually might have had the look of a comet right?

    Well, this is made even funnier by the idea that Armageddon was a movie about a meteor, not a comet. Carry on.

    Virg

  13. Jump into orbit? by Rei · · Score: 4, Informative

    The thing is, that doesn't seem right. You shouldn't be able to "jump into orbit" anywhere (barring atmospheric braking, a change of mass, additional thrust applied, etc, to change your velocity). Your path will either intersect the object you're jumping from, or break its escape velocity. Perhaps this is different for irregularly shaped bodies with irregular gravitational fields, but good luck trying to establish a stable orbit there through "jumping"....

    Now, you *could* "run into orbit", assuming you can get the traction to do so, on a perfectly smooth low gravity atmosphere-less body - you run up to orbital velocity, then curl your body up, and you'll orbit at the altitude of your center of mass. But, if you were to have any significant "jumping" component, you'll likely make yourself intersect the body you're trying to orbit.

    Also, you could jump up and throw a rock and enter orbit that way. However, in the case that you're dealing with a uniform graviational field around a perfect sphere, and the rock that you throw has the same mass as you, you'll hit it on the other side ;)

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    1. Re:Jump into orbit? by Slime-dogg · · Score: 2, Insightful

      His usage of orbit is ambiguous anyway. You could feasibly "jump" into orbit around the sun.

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  14. Re:crap science by E-Rock · · Score: 3, Informative

    You might try reading the rest of the article before you go all asshat. This is the comet's first trip thru the inner solar system.

    "In 1974 it had a close encounter with Jupiter and was thrown onto a new orbit that brings it closer to the Sun. A comet loses material when it approaches the Sun, as solar radiation causes ice from its surface to "sublimate" into space, carring dust and larger particles with it. The process creates a cloud of material that reflects sunlight and creates the familiar head of a comet (scientists call it a coma) and sometimes a tail."

  15. Re:crap science by dylan_- · · Score: 2, Informative
    If the planet has lost about 1 meter worth of material since 1974 then at that rate it would have lost about 937 miles worth of material at a constant rate since its "birth" "4.5 billion" years ago.
    Firstly, it's not a planet, it's a comet.

    Secondly, as the article says, "In 1974 it had a close encounter with Jupiter and was thrown onto a new orbit that brings it closer to the Sun. A comet loses material when it approaches the Sun"

    Thirdly, if it had been a constant rate, it would have been 93210 miles, not 937.

    Hope this helps...
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  16. Re:crap science by 0123456 · · Score: 2, Informative

    "If the planet has lost about 1 meter worth of material since 1974 then at that rate it would have lost about 937 miles worth of material at a constant rate since its "birth" "4.5 billion" years ago."

    I guess it's too much to expect people here to have actually _read_ the article before they start claiming that the authors are idiots?

    "Comet Wild 2 probably gathered itself together 4.5 billion years ago, just after the Sun was born, in a region beyond Neptune known as the Kuiper Belt. _In 1974 it had a close encounter with Jupiter and was thrown onto a new orbit that brings it closer to the Sun_."

  17. Re:crap science by nickstance · · Score: 2, Informative

    yes, but if you read the article, you would have seen that "In 1974 it had a close encounter with Jupiter and was thrown onto a new orbit that brings it closer to the Sun. A comet loses material when it approaches the Sun, as solar radiation causes ice from its surface to "sublimate" into space" So in no way could you say that the loss is "uniform" before 1974, it would have lost damn little of it's mass

  18. Craters and spires by amightywind · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The pictures are quite amazing. It is very puzzling why so small an icy body can have flattened crater floors. It does not take much gravity to
    allow warmed ice to viscuoously relax apparently.
    When I look at the images of those amazing spires
    on the comet limb. I can't help but think about
    the descriptions of Comet Haley's surface in
    Arthur C. Clarke's 2061. That guy has spooky prescience.

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  19. modern science by dAzED1 · · Score: 3, Funny
    from the article:

    "Only two other comets have been seen up close, but both appeared fairly smooth and were nowhere near so heavily cratered."

    Well with such a HUGE sample pool, I can see how they're able to make such firm analysis of this meteor! I mean, really - both the others they've seen up close didn't look at this one, so clearly this one is completely unique in the solar system!

    Sigh.

  20. Film Festival Time! by hussar · · Score: 3, Interesting

    From the NYT article: "Flying through the dust around Wild 2, the spacecraft gathered thousands of particles that are now being returned to Earth for closer investigation. A capsule holding the exotic cargo is to make a soft landing in the Utah desert in January 2006."

    Time to start "Andromeda Strain" midnight showings in local theaters!

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  21. errr... by not using a comma by Saltation · · Score: 2, Informative

    see subject...