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Nokia Invested In Mozilla?
Pine UK writes "The Register, is reporting that Nokia has invested in the Mozilla Foundation. This news should come as a shock to Opera, who in recent times have had a very large market share in the area of portable device browsers. Opera has also been the browser choice for Nokia, who ship it with all their Symbian 'smartphones.' Nokia have not yet confirmed nor denied their investment in Mozilla."
Umm.. this chart is in bytes, right? Right?!
Also repoted by CNet yesterday
Also on many other news sources.
There is also more info about the nice little Minimo project (to produce a Gecko-based browser with a tiny footprint).
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Opera's still half the size of Firefox, and it's got an e-mail client, IRC client, RSS reader, etc., etc. in there. It's got a Mozilla-like feature set, with a smaller-than-Firefox footprint, and it's one of the fastest full-featured browsers there is (non-full-featured being stuff like Lynx, Links, Dillo, etc.)
Also, I like that I don't have to install 10 extensions to get Opera to behave the way I want it to...
they DON'T ship opera with all their symbian phones.
however, it could have just been easier/cheaper for them to buy opera than to invest in minimo.. though this shouldn't be SHOCKING to Opera, if they thought they would just own the market forever they didn't think very clearly.
Opera is still the best browser for s60 though, it won't be easy getting to the same level quickly.
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Well, sort of. Check out this article at News.com
It comes as no suprise since Nokia's strategy has clearly been one of standardization.
And what better way to standardized than to support an open source project?
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Where are you getting this? Firefox is 4.7 MB (actually with the latest nightlies, there was yet another size decease to 4.4 MB) and Opera is 3.4 MB. Firefox is twice the size? Hardly.
Actually, it's not that bad. I'm predicting that 7.51 might be one of the last Opera versions though, or maybe one of the last good ones. Unless, of course, they can get 7.51 over ODIN runing on eComStation, and convince them to bundle it, and 7.51 on a theoretical BeOS Winelib port, and convince YellowTab to move to them. It'd be VERY hard though, seeing as both of those OSes use Firefox...
It's the bundling thing. Here's who's bundled with who:
MSIE: Windows, and it's the biggest because of this
Firefox: eComStation (OS/2), YellowTab Zeta (BeOS), some Linux distros, and they're pretty big
Moz Suite: Some Linux distros, and it's declining (due to Moz Firefox)
Konqueror: Some large Linux distros, is the file manager in all KDE-based distros
Safari: Mac OS, becoming common
Opera: Sharp Zaurus Linux PDAs, one model of Nokia phone (not for long, though), one model of discontinued Psion PDA, and it's only bigger than Safari because it's available on Win32, Linux (x86, PPC, SPARC), Solaris (SPARC), FreeBSD (x86), Mac OS, and Symbian in current versions (the Symbian branch is developed differently than the others, which explains why it's still 6.x).
Even though Nokia is widely known as a mobile phone manufacturer they do have other products as well. Their plans to incorporate Mozilla into their DVB products (the Mediamaster product line) as the web browser component have been public for a couple of years now.
if they are up to something big
DRM?
IE seems to be on hold up until Longhorn
Wait until XP SP2, and you'll get a new IE. Pop-up blocking and download managing are the only new features, AFAICT, though.
as you can see heise.de which is very reliable posted this story yesterday.
Nokia wants to use Minimo in their smartphones.
...unless that's new. Opera didn't come with my 3650 phone.
You have to buy Opera for a Symbian OS phone like mine (Series 60) but it is very nice. It's one of the best browsers available that I have seen.
I would have been MUCH happier if there was something loaded in the thing when I got it... which may be the thoughts Nokia is having. If they included a sweet little browser based on Firefox, it would really round out the apps in the phones of this class... actually, I think it was a mistake not to include a decent browser in the thing in the first place.
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Who the hell modded *this* up?
He didn't say you had to pay the original developers. He said that you had to pay developers. Unless you want to provide a "fork" that has exactly the same codebase as the parent project (stretching the definition of the term well beyond reason), you've got to get somebody to make all the modifications and tweaks to make the project more suitable for your own tasks. Now, you could try the free/volunteer route for your fork, but if you're Nokia, you can't expect anything unless you are at least paying someone to manage the volunteer contributions.
As the grandparent said, if a company like Nokia wants to fork, they have to pay developers.
Try this on for size ;)
Load the extension, turn it on, make the FF window small so it fits the window. Looks like with a few chrome tweaks its ready to rock.
Do you really think Firefox is popular because it's bundled with an OS hardly any end-users use?
Also, Opera is not available for only one Nokia phone. It's available for Symbian Series 60 phones, and there are more than one Nokia phone based on that, as well as phones by other manufacturers.
Your list of "bundles and browsers" is basically seriously flawed, and your entire post falls apart. Firefox does not rely on eComStation to survive, and Opera does not rely only on Nokia.
So 7.51 being one of the last Opera versions unless it gets on eComStation(!) is pure nonsense and wishful thinking on your part. Why would Opera go away when its user base is growing and they are making more and more money?
Your post sounds a lot like a karma whorish post with some vague points that make sense unless you know a lot about this, in which case, it just sounds like nonsense.
Unfortunately, you managed to fool a few moderators...
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Ehm. They're not from the same country. Nokia is from Finland, Opera is from Norway. Now, while both Norway and Finland are part of "Scandinavia", to suggest it's the same country is stretching it a bit far.
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