SUSE 9.1 Personal ISO Available For Free Download

twener writes "DistroWatch.com was the first to report that a complete, bootable, and installable ISO image of SUSE LINUX 9.1 Personal has appeared on SUSE's ftp server and its mirrors. No public announcement on SUSE's website is available yet. This is the first time ever that SUSE makes an ISO for i386 of one of its product flavors available. Don't forget that after installation you can install the packages of the SUSE 9.1 FTP version with GPL'ed YaST to gain an almost (commercial parts missing) SUSE 9.1 Professional installation."

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More SUSE

[argonaut]

This should help the adoption rate of SUSE, much like it did for Red Hat.

Kinda ;)

[CptChipJew]

This is the first time ever that SUSE makes an ISO for i386 of one of its product flavors available

Except of course for the LiveCDs.

Heh...

[Xpilot]

I saw it just now and wondered what it was. It's only 1 CD though... is it the same as the boxed set of the SuSE Personal Edition, or did they leave stuff out?

So...?

[0racle]

Wow! I mean so what? It was never all that difficult to get SuSE before. Are they worried that everyones going to go for a free distro instead, like they have been all this time.

Re:So...?

[The Analog Kid]

It wasn't difficult but everytime I'd try an do an FTP install it was slow, very slow and I've tried different FTPs. It would take me about 2 hours to install when it would take 15 minutes tops to do a ISO install.

SuSE vs (RH) fedora

[anandpur]

SuSE will be at higher grounds if thay fully support personal distribution and it will take away some many users of (RH) Fedora

Under New Management

[slomr2]

Looks like just more of Novell moving SUSE in the direction of its own vision. Ximan Desktop, Exchange connector, GPL of Yast, etc. This isn't really that much of a shock. Though, it is another welcome change.

Not first time ever ISO

[Jidus]

This is plainly false. This is not the first time SuSE distributes their Linux Distro CD image. I remember back in 1997 or so, SuSE used to distribute their ISO's. That was even before their split their product versions in personal and professional. Last version I kind of remember they did that was 6.4.

Or...

[Punboy]

About a year and a half ago I wrote a script to parse the file list on the SuSE FTP server, find which files go on which CDs, download them, and create ISOs, then using the boot section off of their network install CD make the first one bootable. Full SuSE professional (commercial parts missing) for free! All on CDs!

Re:Or...

[GigsVT]

That sounds a whole lot like jigdo for Debian. It's pretty cool to do it that way, you wind up downloading the same amount of data anyway, and you don't have to worry about security on a fresh install, all the security errata are the very latest on your ISO!

Static ISOs are inferior in many ways to a dynamically built ISO.

Good news for linux beginners

[chrispl]

9.1 has to be the biggest threat to windows yet. I dropped the DVD in and everything *everything* I needed was there and ready to use. Even things like my Wifi network worked without any configuration and it played every video/music file I tried to open. On the install it updated all the installed modules from a local FTP server with nothing more than a mouseclick. These are the things that if they don't work out of the box can throw off people who are not willing to search google for 45 minutes to find out how it set up.

This is the first distro I have seen that I would consider the real "Windows Killer". The release of an ISO will put it into the hands of a LOT more people.

The only concern I have is that some of the more useful features may have been yanked due to space limitations. I believe the DVD is over 2GB, versus a 600MB ISO...

Can we legally copy this?

[nlinecomputers]

YaST is now GPL but how does that apply to the rest of the software in Suse personal and professional? I downloaded a copy of the ISOs for SuSE pro 9.1 from a private FTP site that I found on LinuxISO.org. But I've never been sure how legal that was.

A Linux Users Group that I am a member of was asked a couple of years ago to stop selling or even giving out copies of SuSE. They said they didn't mind if you copy for a friend but any organized duping they would take action against.

Has this changed? And could someone point to an offical statement from SuSE?

GPL YaST

[EdMcMan]

I have not heard anything that YaST was actually GPL'd yet. Where can I download it?

Re:Other architectures

[twener]

No, there doesn't exist an x86_64 SUSE 9.1 Personal version.

Just A Question...

[Steinfiend]

I've always wondered what the advantage of paying for SUSE is? I mean from the user stand point, I understand the desire to support the "community", but when I can get all the same software from other distros for the cost of download time and a couple of blank CDs.

Mandrake is easy to install and configure, Fedora is extremely powerful, Gentoo is geeky beyond belief and Debian is solid as a rock. It seems that all niches have been filled already.

Re:Just A Question...

[Heraklit]

If you look at the amount of printed documentation in the boxed set, you will find that this is easily worth the money...

Re:Just A Question...

[gmuslera]

Nice printed manuals, mastered CDs/DVDs instead of burned ones, sometimes nice merchandising included too (stickers, mousepads, etc), some not so free programs included, and the feeling that you are helping them to continue doing its good job.

Indirectly, too, you are helping other OSS projects too, SuSE/Novell is actively developing and helping i.e. reiserfs, kde, Openswan, etc.

So the advantages a bit depends on you. You don't need help and the manuals are ok for looking them online? ok. You have enough bandwidth to install it from the net? ok. You want it to keep coming? then think on doing something for them in return.

Of course, you can do something too for Mandrake, Fedora, Gentoo and Debian, if you happy with any of them any help you can give them probably will end in you getting a better distribution in part because your contribution.

Re:Just A Question...

[Jadrano]

I've always wondered what the advantage of paying for SUSE is? I mean from the user stand point, I understand the desire to support the "community", but when I can get all the same software from other distros for the cost of download time and a couple of blank CDs.

If you downloaded everything that is on a SuSE Professional DVD, that would certainly be quite a lengthy download. For many people, that's probably already enough for preferring to buy it. Then, you get printed books that are quite good.

Mandrake is easy to install and configure, Fedora is extremely powerful, Gentoo is geeky beyond belief and Debian is solid as a rock. It seems that all niches have been filled already.

Yes, I don't think SuSE tries to occupy one of these niches, according to these criteria, it in between as to most criteria you mentioned. But I think a distribution does not really have to fit into a niche. There are big geographical differences. As far as I know, SuSE is the most widespread Linux distribution in Germany (where it's based) and some other European countries. Then, people choose a different distribution if there is a particular reason, but if they just want a kind of "general-purpose" Linux, SuSE is probably the first choice. I suppose that they want to be one of the "mainstream" distributions rather than filling a particular niche.

One area where SuSE Professional really stands out is, in my view, the amount of software that is included. I find that a great advantage - when I read about a program I want to install, chances are good that it's already on the SuSE DVD, and then I don't have to download it and YaST takes care of all the dependencies etc.. It's much easier and quicker to install a working application and everything it needs with a few clicks in YaST than having to care about everything yourself. I find that very important. I haven't compared all recent distributions, but when I occasionally had to do with other distributions, I had the impression that they include much less software than SuSE Professional.

If you can't download they will send you a CD

[badzilla]

Novell order form

Suse versus Mandrake?

[bcrowell]

Mandrake and Suse both seem to be aimed at relatively unsophisticated desktop users, and both seem to have done a lot of work to make good installers. Good for them!

I recently bought the Suse personal 9.1 box, and although it was impressive how easy it was to get a working KDE desktop system, I really felt hemmed in afterward. The Suse repository only has a very limited set of applications. When I asked around about how you install other apps, people told me either "Oh, generic RPMs usually work," or "Here are a couple of sites where people will point you to individuals' web pages where they host RPMs." I guess I've just been spoiled by FreeBSD's ports system, which has thousands of apps, including virtually every app I ever need to run. I'm really not that excited about downloading binary RPMs from people I don't know -- that's a little too much like unsafe sex. If generic RPMs usually work, that's cool, but then what's the advantage of Suse?

My impression is that Mandrake has a much bigger set of apps available -- is this correct? Even if you have to join Mandrake Club to get them from Mandrake, at least joining the club is an option, and if you don't join, you're just in the same situation as with Suse: werbsurf for someone's personal site where they've packaged the app.

Please don't take this as a troll or a "my distro is better than yours" post -- I'm really curious to know what people think about Mandrake versus Suse. Although I'm now using FreeBSD myself, I'm curious what would be a good distro to recommend to a newbie, and AFAICT Suse isn't it.

Miles between Personal and Pro

[miyako]

I'm a Suse user, I'm typing this on my Suse 9.1 box right now. I love Suse, but I have to say that from what I've seen, the personal releases are crap.
I remember not too long ago, a friend of mine was wanting to try out a new Linux distrobution. He'd used Mandrake a bit, but still hadn't learned a lot about linux. I suggested that he go buy a copy of Suse 9.1 because the manuals are really nice, and the ftp version wasn't available yet.
He took my advice, but got the personal version to save money (who can blame him). I didn't think there would be too much difference, I've only used pro, but from reading comments here on /. it seemed like only the proprietary software and some advanced server stuff would be missing.
Nope
Suse 9.1 personal is more like a Windows install than a Linux install. It comes with practically nothing you would assume would be in a linux installation. No server software at all, no development tools, it was a very anorexic distrobution in my opinion.
It seems to me it would be much nicer if Suse would have released ISOs of what can be had from the ftp version so people could torrent it.

SuSE ISO torrents

[Anonymous Coward]

Someone at OSNews.com posted that tux.org has SuSE ISOs, and I found torrents here.

http://www.tux.org/pub/distributions/SuSE/i386/i so /

Re:BitTorrent Anybody?

[AkaXakA]

You can find lot's of linux ISO's, including SuSE's at: TorrentReactor SuSE's are going quite strong :)

Torrent at http://tracker.tx.se - link below

[cybe]

SUSE-9.1-personal-iso.torrent