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U.S. Navy to Deploy Rail Guns by 2011

Walter Francis writes "The U.S. Navy has apparently been busy. They have been focusing heavily on the next generation of weapons and propulsion systems, including Microwave, Laser, and Electromagnetic-Kinetic weapons, more commonly known as railguns. What specifically surprised me was the fact that the Navy plans to deploy these systems as early as 2011, on their DD(X) frigates. The range of these rail guns is estimated to be over 250 miles."

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  1. Suggestion for their autoexec.cfg by SIGALRM · · Score: 5, Funny

    name USS Abraham Lincoln
    set cl_maxpackets 120
    set rate 20000
    set snaps 40
    set cg_fov 80

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    1. Re:Suggestion for their autoexec.cfg by silverfuck · · Score: 5, Funny

      Original (or as close as I know it) Naval Institute's Proceedings (1989) version:

      "Two battleships assigned to the training squadron had been at sea on manoeuvers in heavy weather for several days. I was serving on the lead battleship and was on watch on the bridge as night fell. The visibility was poor with patchy fog, so the Captain remained on the bridge keeping an eye on all activities. Shortly after dark, the lookout on the wing of the bridge reported, "Light, bearing on the starboard bow."
      "Is it steady or moving astern?" the Captain called out.
      Lookout replied, "Steady, Captain," Which meant we were on a dangerous collision course with that ship.
      The Captain then called to the signalman, "Signal that ship: We are on a collisoon course, advise you change course 20 degrees."
      Back came the signal "Advisable for you to change course 20 degrees."
      In reply, the Captain said, "Send: I'm a captain, change course 20 degrees."
      "I'm a seaman second class," Came the reply, "You had better change course 20 degrees."
      By that time, the Captain, was furious. He spat out, "Send: I'm a battleship, change course 20 degrees."
      Back came the flashing light: "I'm a lighthouse!"

      We changed course."

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    2. Re:Suggestion for their autoexec.cfg by cynic10508 · · Score: 5, Informative

      name USS Abraham Lincoln

      Well, Abraham Lincoln wouldn't be a name for a destroyer. President names are used for Nimitz-class super carriers. In fact, Lincoln is already taken by the CVN-72. I think destroyers take their names from famous Navy personnel.

    3. Re:Suggestion for their autoexec.cfg by Ateryx · · Score: 5, Funny

      Just wait until the Army h4x0rs reality... then those al qaeda n00bs will be pwned.

      I can just hear the radio messages:
      [GIJOE] we gots a.q. n00bs coming up on the left
      [G-Unit] aight i'm campin' w/ rail gun
      *G-Unit kills a.qn00bie with headshot*
      *G-Unit kills i.h8.4m3r1c4ns with headshot*
      [al qaeda pwns] (squiggles with dots) americans hax0rs! (squiggles w/ dots) allah will ban you!11!!11
      *G-Unit kills al qaedapwns with headshot*

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  2. If History Is Fulfilled... by andyrut · · Score: 5, Funny

    I just know my archnemesis NoobFragger69 will be camping it the moment it's deployed.

  3. Are You Ready? Go! by American+AC+in+Paris · · Score: 5, Funny
    What specifically surprised me was the fact that the Navy plans to deploy these systems as early as 2011, on their DD(X) Frigates.

    Forget the railguns--I wanna hear more about these Dance Dance Xtreme frigates--sounds like a great way for swabbies to get in shape and destroy the enemy at the same time!

    P.S. Linking to PDFs in article summaries makes baby Mozilla cry.

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  4. US Navy to Deploy Rail Guns by 2011 by NanoGator · · Score: 5, Funny

    Great. The next big American stereotype will be that we're all 'faggot campers'.

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    1. Re:US Navy to Deploy Rail Guns by 2011 by tunabomber · · Score: 5, Funny

      ... and that's ignoring the fact that the Navy will no doubt be using aimbots.

      Kim Jong Il: A headshot from the other side of the map?! WTF?!! OMFG!!! GAY CHEETR!!!

      Just wait 'til the Army starts putting their wallhacking radar vision into widespread use...

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  5. I love this quote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Our bottom line is that if we can put millions of joules of energy onto a target, something will happen."

    Indeed.

    1. Re:I love this quote by BabyDave · · Score: 5, Funny

      A bit excessive - 640kJ should be enough for anyone!
      [ducks]

    2. Re:I love this quote by Jesus_666 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Hmm... A Snickers bar has 1142.28 kJ. So if a railgun would deliver 1 million Joules it had the power of 875.4 Snickers. Or 0.875 kilosnickers.
      Come on, that "(kilo|mega)tons of TNT" thing is getting old, but I'd sure like to see a 5 kilosnickers railgun.

      Besides, a weapon that sucks millions of joules out of a target would be much better. You could use all that energy to hit a second target or as a fast source of energy (for everyone who needs a few millions of joules of energy in the next 0.2 seconds).

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  6. Another source, details, not crashing yet by richardbowers · · Score: 5, Funny

    Other sites are also covering this -- without needing to use acrobat reader.

    I can't read the original, but according to the link I'm including, they're not just talking railguns - they're also talking free electron lasers and masers. Now, if only they'd provision a banana-fana-fo-faser, we'd be set.

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  7. Why wait till 2011! by darth_MALL · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Build your own railgun Today! Kids love this one!

  8. Re:Range by Carnildo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Ok, so range - 250 miles? What happens if they miss the target... some random object/person gets blasted 250 miles down the road? Yeah, that sounds like a great idea...

    The 250 mile range is the ballistic range: a miss means something near the target gets pulped. The direct-fire range, where a miss could hit something well past the target, is probably only around 30 miles.

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  9. Obligatory "build-your-own-railgun-link" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    check out voltsamps.com on how to build your own railgun

  10. Respawn by NanoGator · · Score: 5, Funny

    Well that's neat but I'm still not joining the army until they invent the respawn point.

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    1. Re:Respawn by setzman · · Score: 5, Funny
      Well that's neat but I'm still not joining the army until they invent the respawn point.

      According to the commander in chief and his advisors, there already are two respawn points: heaven and hell. Supposedly allies respawn in heaven, opfor respawn in hell.

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  11. Yeah, but... by LesPaul75 · · Score: 5, Funny

    The range of these rail guns is estimated to be over 250 miles.

    Yeah, but at that distance, the enemy will be smaller than a single pixel... you won't even be able to see him behind your little aiming dot.

  12. Re:steel beams from space? by kiick · · Score: 5, Interesting
    You are talking about a theoretical system called "thor". Basically the idea is that you drop a large crowbar from orbit. The crowbar has just enough brains to wiggle some vanes around to stay on target. The kinetic energy it gains from falling from orbit obliterates the target. No explosives, no radiation, no duds.


    For a fictional view of how devastating this could be, see Niven & Pournelles 'Footfall'.


    The scary part is that we could do this with current technology. It would just be horribly expensive. But once launched, the owner would have the ability to destroy any selected square meter of the Earth's surface, and there's nothing anyone could do about it (aside from shooting down the satellite).

  13. Railgun project link . Video also by DRWHOISME · · Score: 5, Interesting
  14. Re:Haven't you forgotten something, Captain Avatar by gmhowell · · Score: 5, Informative

    We're off to outer space
    We're leaving Mother Earth
    To save the human race
    Our Star Blazers

    Searching for a distant star
    Heading off to Iscandar
    Leaving all we love behind
    Who knows what danger we'll find?

    We must be strong and brave
    Our home we've got to save
    If we don't in just one year
    Mother Earth will disappear

    Fighting with the Gamilons
    We won't stop until we've won
    Then we'll return and when we arrive
    The Earth will survive
    With our Star Blazers


    Back in my day, we had Star Blazers, Astro Boy, and Kimba the White Lion. We didn't have no 'Adult Swim' or fancy cable so we had to stand next to the TV doing the UHF stance and stare through a staticy mess to see our anime, and WE LIKED IT!

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  15. Re:Tactical Flexibility by nosphalot · · Score: 5, Informative
    If you'd read the article, you'd know that the railgun is better because:

    • Its cheaper than missles, at least 3 times
    • It delivers more energy to the target, and penetrates deeper into hardened targets
    • The ammunition takes less room to store, and doesn't pose a risk of explosion like missles or artillery shells
    • The shells have guidence, and are just as accurate as missles, but travel much much faster

    In other words, it brings a lot to a Real World(TM) battle.

  16. In other news... by nacturation · · Score: 5, Funny

    In other news, the Army plans to deploy Quad Damage by 2009.

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    1. Re:In other news... by randyest · · Score: 5, Interesting

      All kinds of funny in the replies (I read them all at +1 -- pity me), but not much serious.

      For example -- even the first generation railguns have a muzzle velocity (intentionally limited) of 2.5 km/s (which is Mach 7.5, presumably at sea-level pressure -- the article doesn't say). That's awesome for aiming, time-of-flight, and kinetic energy delivery so great you don't even need messy exposives.

      But, what about the sonic boom? I mean, even a small thing crossing the speed barrier makes a noise (ref: a bullwhip) -- how loud will it be on deck with n of these things breaking the sound barrier every 10 seconds?

      Will they enclose them in something, build a sound baffle of some kind, or just issue really good hearing protection devices for those working in the vicinity?

      Sorry to be serious and all, but I'm just curious :)

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    2. Re:In other news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      RTFPDF. The rounds will likely be guided (by GPS).

  17. Don't forget ricochet.... by DG · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Don't forget ricochet range. A projectile that skipped off the ocean (for example) could wind up somewhere much farther downrange than 30 miles.

    I've seen plain old ordinary machine gun rounds do some amazing and unexpected things. I expect that scales with velocity.

    Interesting point from the article - the author sees this system fitting into existing 5" gun mounts, and sees one gun as being able to deliver equivelent fire as a squadron of F18s. That means destroyers become as powerful as aircraft carriers.

    How about that - the return of the battleship.

    DG

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  18. Re:steel beams from space? by ElektroHolunder · · Score: 5, Funny

    Rumor has it that the first draft proposed the use of giant anvils labelled with "ACME"

  19. Re:Leaving the term "Superpower" behind. by presarioD · · Score: 5, Insightful

    There is no such thing as an unlimited power expansion for a nation. Any nation.

    The Roman Empire was defeated although it reached disproportionate economic and military expansion for its era. Same thing for every single Empire (including Dr.Evil's) through history.

    So I'm sorry to break this to my american fellow geeks but the greatest nation of the world can produce as many railguns as it can/wants, the second law of thermodynamics has predicted its downfall upon its conception 300 years ago.

    That is alright though, that is quite alright! See how the Germans, French, British have progressed since they abandoned their nationalistic bubble of delusion about Grandieur and Fanifested Destinies and such... (well I don't know about the British, it appears sometimes they haven't gone passed WWII)

    The world will be a much safer place, and international peace and cooperation well founded, once USA realizes that there is nothing special about USA after all. It's just a passing moment of history that led to this economic and military growth, that's all.

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  20. Hyperpower my ass - give it 50 years by brunes69 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The US is no more of a "hyperpower" now than it was 30 years ago. The only difference between then and now is that there is no one to currently oppose them, but that will change quickly

    Give it 50 years and the US will have competition on two fronts - China and the EU. The EU becomes more and more unified every year, and as it does so, the economic and military power of the area comes closer and closer to that of the US (the EU as a whole already surpasses the US in terms of GDP). So on one hand, you have the "friendly" EU competition. On the other hand, you have China - growing incredibly rapidly both technologically and militarily. Plus, they have the population to back up the technology on the ground if it ever came to that.

    If you project out, by 2050 you have three huge global superpowers. All nuclear, all space-capable. And who knows what the global political scene will be like - tensions between the US and Europe have never been higher in recent memory, and the true goals of China in areas like Space are yet to be seen.

    It's going to be an interesting 50 years for all of us, and rest assured, the US will not remain the "sole superpower" for very long in a historical sense. I mean, just 150 years ago ( a small blip on the global timeline ) the UK was the worlds superpower. 100 years ago the US was in such a depression people wondered if the whole nation was going to collapse. 50 years ago half the western world was under the control of Hitler.

    The point is that in historical terms, the length of time the US has been dominant is miniscule. Let me know when the US has been the dominant global superpower for a thousand years ( see: Rome ) then we can start talking about "hyperpower".