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German Court Fixes Book Prices On Ebay

krez writes "Yesterday, a German court decided that it is illegal to sell books below the prices set by publishing houses. In the court's view, German books are exempt from EU free-market restrictions because they represent an "important cultural good". I guess this is what happens when the rights of collectives, and groups of peoples supersede the rights of the individual to do with his property as he/she sees fit. The implications of this could be far reaching, having an impact on your right to sell old CDs, DVDs, perhaps even art?"

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  1. nothing new at all by fluxmov · · Score: 5, Informative

    The German "Buchpreisbindung" (fixed prices for professional sellers) has been in effect for a long time. It has nothing to do with DVDs etc. The only "new" thing about it is the court's decision that it's also valid for eBay, which doesn't really come as a surprise.

  2. i can see it now. by Unknown+Poltroon · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Hi. You are not bidding on this copy of harry potter starting at 1$, you are bidding on this extriemely durable shipping container. The book is merely being included to keep the container from blowing away or being crushed during shipping. THank you.

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    1. Re:i can see it now. by Apiakun · · Score: 5, Funny

      Great idea :) "We are not offering the following unreleased album in mp3 format. We are simply providing a collection of ones and zeros with which you can test your ISP's downstream connection. We insist that you not save this data upon completion of the network bandwidth test."

  3. Right of First Sale? by Chilltowner · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I am totally ignorant of German law, but is there a German (or EU) principle in copyright similar to the American right of first sale? Basically, in the States, "once a copyright owner sells a copy of his work to another, the copyright owner relinquishes all further rights to sell or otherwise dispose of that copy." Does this not pertain in Europe? When do the copyright owner's rights end? Do they ever? This could be a dangerous precedent, especially if it contradicts the established legal tradition.

  4. RTA by blankmange · · Score: 4, Insightful
    This is also in Germany and there is one interesting note in the article:

    "The court's decision made clear that even private sellers have to stick to the fixed book price if they regularly sell new books. "

    Looks like if they are used books, you have no restrictions... now we have to have "used" defined...
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  5. Used to be similer in UK by L-s-L69 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Over here prices where set, but the big sellers got together and refused to stock a publishers books unless the let them set the price. A court case followed which the sellers won. I encourage Germans to ignore the rule and hope the law sees sense.

  6. Only for New Books by osiris · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This restriction is only on the selling of new books. You can still sell your second hand books on there below the list price.

    If you didnt read the article, it was a suit brought about by a bookseller against a reviewer who was selling unread review copies of books on ebay for under the new selling price.

    I know its slashdot, but try reading the links sometimes. It helps when you want to discuss it.

  7. Applies only to new books by Florian · · Score: 4, Informative

    In Germany and Austria, prices for new books are fixed, i.e. a new book
    always costs the same in every bookstore, including web
    bookstores like Amazon, so that bookstores don't compete on price.
    It does, however, not apply to (a) used books, (b) books
    where the rest of an edition is being discounted by the
    publishers, (c) books imported from other countries, (d) any other media, like music CDs, DVDs, software etc..

    This law was made to protect small bookstores with chiefly literary,
    cultural and academic programs from the competition of bookstore
    chains (like Barnes & Noble in the U.S.) and mail order bookstores.
    While one might have different opinions about free markets and free
    pricing, this system indeed works as intended. Unlike in other Western
    countries, Germany and Austria benefit from a wealth of small quality bookstores
    in every town. In addition, there exists - since decades - a very efficient
    national book wholesaler system,
    so that any bookstore, regardless the size, can get any available book
    for a customer usually on the next day (if it's not on stock in the
    store already). Despite all this, Amazon still managed to
    establish a hugely profitable business in Germany for various reasons -
    the comfort of browsing an online catalogue and because
    they offered, for the first time in Germany, an efficient way of ordering
    English-language books.

    The court decision simply maintains the fixed book price law for Ebay sales of
    new books by commercial traders. It does not apply to Ebay sales of
    second-hand books.

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  8. Re:Like scalping tickets... by Phleg · · Score: 4, Informative

    Er, scalping tickets is when you sell tickets above their listed price. The problem is that tickets inherently have a limited utility, and supply decreases towards their end-of-life (hence, raising their value and price). That way, one person might buy 100 tickets for a show that will be sold out, and sell them with a 200% markup to fans outside the stadium, since there's effectively a zero supply.

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