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Ghost in the Shell 2 in Theaters Late This Summer
Peter Williams writes "Ghost in the Shell 2: Innocence is due out in theaters late summer 2004. The english website can be reached here."
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The anime market is very different from the western animation market. Mainly because in the West there isn't really a matured interest in animation films since they're geared towards the infant market.
In Japan this kind of film usually has great results in both cinema and DVD releases.
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How is that trollish?? My goodness.. If someone dislikes what you like doesn't automatically make them a troll. It's called an opinion.
Compared with Armitage (along with others) and it's subsiquent sequels the creators of Ghost in the Shell really outdid themselves with it's production. Rarely does an Anime movie mix great plot, action, and camera angles with good "art". The entire Si Fi genre in Anime has suffered from serials that continue far beyond their disturbingly bad pilots. I for one am looking forward to this new sequel, from what i've heard it's not going to be a direct interpretation of the original movie's lines and characters. And if anyone has seen the original movie you can attest to the fact that it steps beyond the common "anime" genre and out-performs most of it's field and regular "live-action" movies as well.
GitS is suposed to be one of like the top Anime films, i picked up the dvd for that reason, not the first in my collection, but i got it pretty much just to have it. I liked it, but it was kinda boring in parts (not as boring as metropolis though, what a yawn fest), probably didn't help that i had the flu and a 103 fever when i watched it, but anywho.. I Agree, the CB movie is much better to introduce someone to anime, that or maybe Princess Mononoke. I'd recomend Akira as a second film.
"Sic Semper Tyrannosaurus Rex."
In order to appreciate films like this and Final Fantasy, you definetly need a better understanding of spirtual beliefs. The ghost, is the spirit or soul of the machine, in the same way a ghost is the bodyless soul of a person.
Final Fantasy, lends itself to the Gaia Theory, and taking it further to suggest that planets are living enties with their own soul.
Japanese animation has plenty of philosphy in them (not all of them admitedly), and can be very deep, so it takes more to appreciate them than your average american cartoon, which in contrast are very shallow.
Jumpstart the tartan drive.
Just another sequal series which will disapoint (like Gundam SEED, Macross Zero etc).
It's annoyingthat years after the originals people want to cash in on the name rather then using their heads and making something intresting and original (Full metal alchemist forexample)
I like muppets.
I hope they do a better english dub this time. The first was an astounding movie with one of the worst english dubs ever.
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And I got halfway through the film and still hadn't figured out what the hell they meant by a 'ghost.'
Ghost in the Shell does not pander to MTV attention spans, and like the Patlabor movies, there's a complex plot. And a "ghost", while a vague concept, is quite obviously(if you pay attention) "what makes a person a person and not a machine". It's your personality, memories, etc. Part of it is that nobody seems to quite be able to put their finger on what a 'ghost' really is; hence the scene where Motoko wonders with Batou whether or not she's really human anymore. Are her memories manufactured, she wonders?
Watch Cowboy Bebop instead. It's a lot more fun, the animated cityscapes are stunning, and it doesn't take itself very seriously.
Cowboy Bebop is one of the all-time greats, but there are those of us who do enjoy serious anime.
There were a lot of complaints about Ghost In the Shell: Stand Alone Complex too- a lot of immature people complained there wasn't enough "action" and there was "too much talking". Well, guess what- that's -exactly- what GITS has always been about, right down to the manga, which sometimes has -paragraphs- of narration.
If you don't like philosophical anime, fine- go watch mindless shit like [shivers] Dragon Ball Z, [gets sick] Naruto, or [throws up] One Piece. But don't try to make every anime fit your tastes and complain when something doesn't.
The slashdot crowd might really enjoy PlanetES, about a young girl full of ideals who goes into space to work in a debris collection department- and finds space isn't quite as romantic, and astronauts not quite as valiant- as she thought.
Last Exile is about two kids serve as couriers, piloting a flying machine in the midst of a war and hoping to some day find their father(s) who were lost delivering a vital message.
Read or Die(watch the OVA first) is a fun series about three detective-sisters(named after martial arts starts, incidentally- Anita, Maggie, Michelle; there's also a Lee, a dove named Woo, etc :-) who are "paper-users" like the famous bibliomaniac Yoriko "The Paper" Readman, who worked for (heh) the British Library Special Forces. The OVA is particularly strange in a fun way. Kinda girly and -very- moving towards the end.
Oh, and lastly, Spirited Away is fantastic. Not nearly as preachy as Ghibli's earlier stuff(which is also excellent, but extremely heavy-handed in environmentalist ways. Princess Mononoke, Nausicca Valley of the Wind, etc).
Please help metamoderate.
How can we continue to believe in a just universe and freedom to eat crackers if we have no ale?
Grow up, dude. Not all nudity implies "stroke yourself while watching this." Nudity can be used as an essential plot device, to help character development, or to invoke specific feelings (shame, modesty, sexuality, empowerment, etc.)
Some of us adults understand this, some do not. You seem to belong in the latter group. Feel free go back to your Smurfs and Rugrats, and leave the interesting movies to the grown-ups. The ones who can grasp the concept that "cartoons" aren't just for Saturday morning kids.
Speaking of the matrix...
Watch the original Ghost in the Shell.
Then Watch the first Matrix.
Compare.
Of course, the Wachowski brothers did say they were trying to do a "live-action japanese animation movie".
We just didn't know they just wanted to do a 1-to-1 conversion of a specific movie.
Nouvelles de jeux et technologies en français. TC
Someone doesn't have an "MTV attention span" just because they didn't like some cartoon that a bunch of American fanboys spew their load all over whenever it's mentioned.
You're using the same argument used to defend the absolutely shitty Matrix sequels--"It's supposed to be overly philosophical and have these boring things happen because they intended it that way!" Just because it was intended doesn't make it not suck in the end.
If you're really so knowledgable about "serious anime," you'd know that Ghost In The Shell isn't really like most anime at all, and is only as popular as it is in the States, as opposed to in Japan where it's relatively obscure.
To sum up--pull your head out of your ass. Yes, there are people who find Ghost In The Shell fucking boring. That doesn't make them MTV sheep or less appreciative of intelligent movies. It just means they don't like these cartoons you like so much.
Say "Bad web designer! No cookie!"
Hit the back button and find something else to read.
...or enter the late 90's and install Flash.
Simply put, designers are going to want a method of presenting their material in a non-browser determined environment similar to print. They get paid lots of money to put their deisgn skills (good or bad) to work, and letting a browser reformat everything according to local settings throws that money away and breaks design even worse. Developing in any sort of HTML based evironment for different browsers and platforms takes too much time and money. Flash is the answer. It allows for dynamic presentation that is rendered the same (for the most part) between all browsers and platforms. The ony thing really holding it up has been download speeds and that is disappearing as they increase and it (or something similar) will be the standard in advertising websites similar to PDFs and documents.
Just what I wanted. Advertising that's even more obnoxious and slow than what we've already got. Thanks!
Not really a interest? What about:
The Simpson's
King of the Hill
The Critic (gone, but a success for a year or two)
Ren and Stimpy
The above are what I would consider adult cartoons. While not mature in any respect, many adults (including myself) do love them.
I think Americans like to laugh when they see cartoon because we have always laughed. Kids and Adults both enjoy these and cartoons such as Bugs Bunny, Daffy Duck and others. When we see comics or cartoons discussing serious situations the end up being BORING. So if there's not enough action (rock em sock em style of robotic fury), we get turned off. Also, in Japan, people aren't as sensitive to seeing an animated boob on screen.
Gorkman
Tell you what -- I think I'll stay in the early nineties, when we actually thought there was more to the web than being a glorified print advertising medium, and that content was more important than style -- especially when that style is achieved at the expense of usability.
How can we continue to believe in a just universe and freedom to eat crackers if we have no ale?
"Yeah, Ms. Tweed, we uh, need you to get naked for the, er, plot, and to, uh, empower the feelings of modesty in our audience."
Give me strength: I don't disagree with you that artistic considerations can make nudity an essential element in a film, but every tit-flash isn't evidence of well-developed, mature cinematic sensibilities. If that were the case Showgirls would be considered Citzen Kane, and Girls Gone Wild would be a powerful work of documentary filmmaking.
So, let's take a quick look at how nudity is used in Ghost In The Shell. A quick trip over to Google's image search yields the following examples of important cinematography. Certainly no untoward objectification of women there. Just art for art's sake, for us grown-up types to enjoy over some sherry. The big tits are important to the artistic vision!
Can the fake sanctimoniousness. Nobody's saying that cartoons can't be a source of mature entertainent, and effective social commentary. Just a few examples. Heck, sometimes it gets a little racy.While an interesting idea, I'd like to see proof. Japan also has panties for sale in vending machines and men reading porn on subways, both of which they certainly didn't get from the states. The culture of sex in Japan is not some derivative from the U.S. - it is its own beast.
God Bless America. Why? Did it sneeze?