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Toshiba Develops World's Smallest Fuel Cells
An anonymous reader writes "When you think of Toshiba, you might think of notebooks, but fuel cells? Never. Well, at least not until up to now. Toshiba claims to have made the world's smallest fuel cell to date. The direct methanol fuel cell can fit inside of the smallest of gadgets, ranging from MP3 Players to portal DVD Players. Most fuel cells require a pump that can mix the methanol and water, and a fan to help cool the pump. This makes installing fuel cells in smaller items out of the question. However, Toshiba's new fuel cell does not require a fan or a pump to operate, which means it's much smaller in size, and can be installed in almost any small device."
Motorola designed this sort of thing in 2000, and it's smaller.
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Considering the summary here a good 9/10 of whats in the linked Overclockers Club here's some links from some more normal news outlets
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More info from . If that link doesn't work (it has a session ID I couldn't remove), try looking at the EE Times front page
One third of the volume of the device is fuel; if you doubled the volume, you'd get 4x the life.
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TOKYO -- Toshiba Corp. has developed a matchbox-sized direct methanol fuel cell (DMFC) with no moving parts.
The prototype measures 22 x 56 mm with a thickness of 4.5 mm and includes a 2-cc capacity fuel tank. The fuel cell weighs 8.5 grams, and has an output power of 100 mW. Using a 99.5-percent concentration of methanol, the fuel cell can power low-power consumption devices such as MP3 audio players for about 20 hours, Toshiba said. Toshiba divides its DMFC development into two types, "active" and "passive." The new passive fuel cell aims for higher power -- more than 10 W at 10-20V generated by active systems, which use a pump and fan to feed methanol and oxygen into a cell stack where oxygen reacts with the methanol to produce electricity.
Toshiba unveiled an active prototype to power notePCs last spring, and plans to introduce a product later this year.
The passive model features a simpler structure, making use of the concentration gradient to feed methanol and oxygen to the cell stack. "We eliminated mechanical components such as a fan and fuel pump used in active-type DMFCs. Instead, we devised a way to supply fuel and air uniformly," said Fumio Ueno, a technology executive at Toshiba Display Device & Components Control Center.
Toshiba engineers reduced catalyst particles nanometer size. The electrodes measure 2 x 3 cm, but deliver the same output power as Toshiba's conventional DMFC using electrodes five times larger.
Toshiba plans to introduce the small DMFC with an output power of about 100 mW sometime next year.
Toshiba engineers said the fuel cell can power some portable devices such audio players. "We'll work on improving the output, then the fuel cell can power cellular phones," said Kazunori Fukuma, managing director of Toshiba Display Devices & Components Control Center.
For cellphone applications, Toshiba is targeting an output level of 2W at 4V. "More functions are implemented in a cellular phone, such as TV reception. This will increase the need for fuel cells," Fukuma said.
Initially, it will be difficult to replace current lithium ion batteries with DMFCs, and a hybrid configuration may make the most sense. The fuel cell could charge the lithium ion battery when the phone is idle.
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DPReview has a pic of it.
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http://www.dpreview.com/news/0406/04062401toshi
They do after all emit co2. I wonder if you can smell them?
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"Carbon dioxide is a colourless odourless gas"
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It should makes you more than a little uncomfortable to know that many types of batteries have highly combustible and/or toxic and/or corrosive materials in them. Try opening a lithium-ion battery and putting the contents in a glass of water to see what happens... No, I just remembered, this is Slashdot so maybe someone will try this. Do NOT open any batteries, ever. The contents in most of them is more dangerous than methanol.
You have an explorer and you're worried about funding the gasoline for it?
Sounds like someone needs to go down to his neighborhood Kia dealer. Or maybe get a VW Jetta TDI. A friend of mine has one, 50mpg.
Of course, I shouldn't talk. I drive either a 99 grand marquis or a 78 cougar.
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Another article reports that the power output is only 100 milliwatts for the 8.5 gm device. This suggests that a 1/2 kg version of the thing would only put out 5.9 watts - not enough to power a laptop. It looks like an interesting powersource for low-power devices, but anything with a backlit display or modern mobile processor is probably not feasible with this tiny unit.
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How hard is it to refill something? I have a butane powered soldering iron and I consider the act of refilling that puppy to be EVEN EASIER than plugging something into the wall. Mostly because I don't need to even bend down to a socket; I just mash the fuelling tip of a butane canister into the butt end of the iron for a few seconds (i don't recommend goatse as a visual aid). Ta da!
Not that I'd recommend buying a butane-powered iron over an electric; it can be a pain in the ass unless you have heat-resistant skin.
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Perhaps a RTFA is in order.
The tiny fuel cell uses 2cc of concentrated methanol to provide 20 hours of power at 100 milliwatts, max.
With regard to refilling. This will be done with a can of compressed methanol. Simply plug the can into the cell for a few seconds and you're good to go for another 20 hours. This process will be very similar to the way that butane cigarette lighters are refilled and have been for more than 30 years. Just for the record, butane is much more flamable/explosive than methanol. Yet, when last did you read of a can of butane or a refillable cigarette lighter exploding?
When you're working in an environment in which you have to move from room to room fairly often and would not rather lug an adapter with you, or spend time looking for outlets, or worry about the issue at all. Hell, I find it inconvenient to worry about it in my own home -- get up from desk, kneel down, unplug adapter from under desk, carry adapter in one hand, laptop in other and beer bottle in teeth to living room, put down beer and laptop, rummage around under couch for power strip...etc. etc.
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I assume these things are perfectly safe to use?
Perfectly safe? Sorry bubble boy, but even a padded chamber isn't perfectly safe.
These are reasonably safe, though. For any oxygen combustable fuel to flame you need the fuel in a gaseous or vaporized form within a sufficiently (but not too high) oxygen rich environment.
The small amount of fuel that's in this device would have to turn to gas and flame in the air. You wouldn't be able to fit enough air inside the canister and enable the methanol to turn to gas to cause an explosion. However the space is small enough that it isn't feasable until the canister is empty (only vapor remains). Even then oxygen isn't allowed in the canister. Even then they have overpressure vents which would, at most, cause this device to "vent with flame," as most manufacturers claim LI-ION device may due in the worst cases.
So - reasonably safe yes, perfectly safe, no. Safe enough to prevent multi-mullion dollar liability suits? You bet.
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Along with yet another article regarding Toshiba's new fuel cell, Fuel Cell Today has some other interesting news items regarding Fuel Cell technology worth reading.
Why would it be pressurized? methanol exists as a liquid at standard temperature & pressure.
It would be like refilling a zippo, or a lawnmower, or a motorbike.. not like refilling propane or a butane lighter or anything like that.
Explosions are not a real hazard. Methanol is a liquid and the container is not pressurized. Making lightweight liquid-proof containers is not extremely challenging and furthermore, the amount of methanol can't be very large in a device that small. The worst-case scenario I can think of is that you might be able to break the methanol container and start a small fire.
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Yes, CO is a poison. CO2 is not. CO2 is no deadlier than any other gas we cannot breath, like inert helium.
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http://www.dpreview.com/news/0001/00012004motor
A direct methanol fuel cell converts the energy in methanol directly to electricity and operates at normal room temperatures. A catalyst (typically a mixture of platinum and ruthenium) is used to react a dilute mixture of methanol and water to form carbon dioxide, protons, and electrons, which provide the electrical current. The protons are conducted through a proton-conducting organic membrane to another platinum catalyst where the protons combine with oxygen from the ambient air to form pure water. Some of the water is recycled back to mix with the methanol, and the excess water evaporates as water vapor in the air.
Distilling ethanol is illegal in most locations.
I don't see any reason why distilling methanol would be illegal (sure, it's a poison but so are shitload of other things).
Much easier and probably cheaper to just buy the stuff though...
dpreview has an blurb that is much more comprehensive. And, to spread the hits, you can see the original press release The content of the two links is the same, only the background color and periphery information is different. (dpreview is black; toshiba is white)
This is hardly an easy way to get access to methanol :P 2 cc ?
A 5 liter can of glow engine (model) fuel would be slightly more bong for the buck.
For the curious: don't try it. I used to work for a battery manufacturer. Suffice it to say that if one of the chemical tanks were to rupture, they would have had to evacuate most of that city immediately because of the toxic gas. And that's just one ingredient.
Trust me, it's not worth it, even if you're curious. You might regret it for the rest of your (short?) life!
Here's a link to the press release. It has more details than the link in the main article. http://www.prnewswire.com
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Blue's a good background colour too, lots of Dyslexia associated sites recomend it.
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I've never heard of methanol used as rubbing alcohol.
Ethanol and Isopropynol yeah, but not methanol. Is there a particular product that uses it?
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Methanol can be produced by a variety of processes from a variety of feedstocks including biomass; e.g. wood chips, saw dust, and agricultural waste products.
Besides, the amount of methanol needed to run a mobile phone for a year would power a typical American SUV gas-guzzler for about 3 seconds. (YMMV :-)
Don't flatter yourself, methanol is extremely toxic. This stuff methabolizes to formaldehide, which basically dissolves your cells (in your body, not in your laptop), starting usually with the nerve cells in the optic nerve. In plain English that means: you go blind from a small dose, and you die from a larger dose. It's easily absorbed through skin, or by breathing the vapor, and diluting it doesn't prevent the absorbtion (though slows it down). You don't want methanol anywhere near you, unless it's hermetically sealed in a cartridge.
Starting a fire should be the last of your worries. For crud's sake, a cigarette lighter is way more dangerous a methanol fuel cartridge would be, 'cause it ahs 100% concentrated fuel in it, and actually burns it as intended use, and you have no second thoughts about dragging it around in your pocket, now do you?
You might not have noticed, but fuelcells have been deployed in larger sizes for several years. And last year a small one was certified for airplane travel. So where does this persistent panic come from? Seems purely imaginary.
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Fuel cells can, in principle, run on any redox reaction, that is, any reaction based on the transfer of electrons. So the methanol oxidation is fully capable of driving a fuel cell.
The redox pair in this case would be:
anode: CH3OH + H2O => CO2 + 6H+ + 6e-
cathode: 3/2 O2 + 6 H+ + 6e- => 3 H2O
sum: CH3OH + 3/2 O2 => CO2 + 2 H2O
Anode and cathode half cells would be separated by a membrane, the protons travel through this membrane, while the electrons are transferred through the external circuit, generating a usable current.
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