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ISS Spacewalk Cut Short

RobertB-DC writes "The spacewalk that was intended to replace a balky power supply ended almost before it started, according to Spaceflight Now's Mission Status Center play-by-play. The Russian Orlan spacesuit worn by US astronaut Mike Fincke developed a problem with its oxygen supply (!), forcing both spacewalkers back to the airlock after less than 15 minutes. Mission control and the ISS crew are still debating what to do next."

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  1. The answer is simple... by Animaether · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Just patch the leak with putty!
    NASA: Astronauts to get putty for small holes

    Though I have to question these NASA budgetcuts.. AstroPutty

    1. Re:The answer is simple... by maxbang · · Score: 3, Funny

      Strange...I connected to the suit via putty, was prompted for a login, entered 'root' and was able to login with no password. Seems like a pretty big security....hole!?! Ha! Thank you, I'll be here all week. In the dumpster. Eating your waste.

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  2. the spacewalk may have ended too soon by surreal-maitland · · Score: 3, Funny

    but the moonwalk will live on forever!

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  3. Russian Spacesuits by Mz6 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    FWIW, I thought it was kind of interesting that these spcesuits are not able to carry jetpacks, like the US ones, should the tether break. Pretty risky if you know you don't have a back up if it breaks. Although it's even more risky not having air.

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    1. Re:Russian Spacesuits by jusdisgi · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I don't know...the tether breaking sounds pretty unlikely; has it ever happened before? I mean, rock climbers don't carry jetpacks either....

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    2. Re:Russian Spacesuits by azmatsci · · Score: 5, Informative
      Teathers have never broken when connected to a astronaught-type in orbit. Satellites have done experiements with teathers before where those have broken but it was a completly different environment.

      As for jet packs, the airlocks are not able to handle them. They would need to be mounted outside, but they would deteriorate, so they would need a locker.....and the problems keep mounting.

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    3. Re:Russian Spacesuits by virtual_mps · · Score: 3, Informative
      um , when NASA uses the jetpack, they usually got no tether. Where's the backup there?

      You're probably confusing the backup system (SAFER) with the MMU. The backup system is a small backpack, it's not the big flying chair you may be thinking of (which hasn't been used since the 80's IIRC.)
  4. Russian space suits... by Shoeler · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Are widely regarded as rugged, tough suits. However, I understand they lack many of the safeguards that their American counterparts have. Anyone know if this is true or my bad recollection? I saw a show on the Discovery channel some time ago that compared the Russian and American space programs. It spoke of how the American program uses multiple redundant systems, while the russians favor rugged, proven gear. It also spoke of how the russians bettered their space program by launching many rockets, knowing their failure rate would be high, but learning from those failures. In comparison the American program launched fewer and did lots of R&D between them.

    Personally I would want to be on the rocket that had a lower percentage of failure and thus would want the American space suit, but perhaps I'm biased. ;)

    1. Re:Russian space suits... by foidulus · · Score: 3, Interesting

      It also spoke of how the russians bettered their space program by launching many rockets, knowing their failure rate would be high, but learning from those failures. In comparison the American program launched fewer and did lots of R&D between them.
      There was probably a reason for this during the cold war. While the American media isn't as free as we think it is, they still would have covered something as significant as a rocket launch. Thus if it failed, the Russians could easily find out. However, the Russians were better at keeping their media in check, so if rockets failed, it would be a lot harder for others to know.
      Well, thats my take on it anyway

    2. Re:Russian space suits... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      The American suits have been used and are preferred for spacewalks (the US airlock recycles the air which is useful).

      Unfortunately when they tested the US suits shortly after getting onboard they found problems (air bubbles in the cooling system IIRC) so they had to use the Russian equipment. This meant a much more dangerous/risky spacewalk but it was the only working kit they had.

      Now it is a question of which kit they can fix/replace first.

    3. Re:Russian space suits... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      This speaks to the difference between engineering approches in these two cultures. The US scientific culture has leaned towards lots of computational power to construct large models and simulations. Soviet scientific culture was more rooted in analytical solutions, not using computers as their American counterparts much for numerical solutions. This can be easily observed in my field by reading US and Soviet research papers from the 60's, 70's, and 80's. My field btw would be engineering vibrations and modal analysis.

  5. Sorry... by arikol · · Score: 3, Funny

    In soviet russia, spacewalks cut YOU short!

  6. Debate by jusdisgi · · Score: 5, Funny

    Mission control and the ISS crew are still debating what to do next.

    Mission control: Go back out there!

    ISS crew: No!

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  7. uh!? by mirko · · Score: 5, Funny

    IIS had problems, now it is ISS, I just hope that SSI are okay.

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  8. What to do next by tomhudson · · Score: 4, Interesting
    a problem with its oxygen supply (!), forcing both spacewalkers back to the airlock after less than 15 minutes. Mission control and the ISS crew are still debating what to do next." It should be obvious - take a deep breath!

    Seriously, maybe its time to think of something along the space pods in 2001 with their manipulators. They were cool because they were a realistic solution.

    1. Re:What to do next by AndroidCat · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Sure, right after they install a pod bay on the ISS. :) Since a space pod's manipulators would be controlled by an astronaut inside, why bother bringing along the astronaut? A pod could be much simpler if it didn't need life-support and all its mass. It could even be operated by the ground, although delay might be an issue for fine manipulation.

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  9. Just a thought: by Paulrothrock · · Score: 3, Funny

    Maybe these guys could help.

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  10. Punctuation by CGP314 · · Score: 5, Funny

    The Russian Orlan spacesuit worn by US astronaut Mike Fincke developed a problem with its oxygen supply (!), forcing both spacewalkers back to the airlock after less than 15 minutes.

    Well, thank God for that parenthetical exclamation point to let me know it was a problem.

    1. Re:Punctuation by Psykechan · · Score: 3, Funny

      I figured that the exclamation mark appeared over his head when he realized the problem.

      Unfortunately, the associated sound effect couldn't be heard because it was a vaccuum.

  11. Look out! by leenoble_uk · · Score: 5, Funny

    They just moved indoors to avoid being hit by David Beckham's penalty kick.

  12. ugh! by BaDunkaDunk · · Score: 4, Funny

    ya think they'd a been smart enough to take some friggin DUCT TAPE with 'em up there!... astronauts... indeeeeeed....

  13. Lucky by shadowcabbit · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It's a good thing they caught the oxygen problem before things got worse. Good job, guys.

    This sort of thing demonstrates the need for advances in robotics. An remote-controlled machine could potentially do spacewalk jobs somewhat more easily and far more safely than sending out a human in what boils down to a ziploc bag tied to the station.

    ...But, as long as folks are brave enough to go Out There, I'll still be rooting for them.

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  14. Hal? by BenjyD · · Score: 4, Funny

    They weren't out to fix the AE-35 unit by any chance I hope.

  15. New role for spaceshipone? by TheUncleBob · · Score: 3, Funny

    Perhaps a Breakdown and Recovery service instead of space tourism ?

    Though Intergalactic Pizza Delivery gets my vote. I wonder if ISS would refuse to pay if it turned up a few minutes late?

  16. Re:Another argument against manned spaceflight by east+coast · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This again begs the question: Do we really need manned spaceflights where unmanned, robotic spaceflights can do the job just as well and at a much lower cost?

    Do we really have any need to go down a concrete path at 60 miles per hour in a tin box just to see the latest Adam Sandler film? Perhaps we should hide away in our homes for all except the most urgent business.

    I know someone is going to mod that down as flamebait or mod me as a troll but the bottom line is that we risk lives everyday for much much less. These guys and gals know the risks and except them willingly. Frankly I'd do it, and if I were to die you can sleep well at night knowing that I'd rather have given my life for a decent contribution than dying at the age of 90 after a lifetime of pandering to idiots who are too lazy to try to reboot their PCs before calling the help desk over what are often non-issues.

    And besides, perhaps the robot aspect is cheaper but what about the time in development? Tell me to use a screwdriver, it'll take you 3 seconds and I'll get the job done and be able to work my way thru most unexpected problems. Do that to a robot and it takes hours if not days to tell it the task and when it encounters a problem it takes more time to figure out how to tell the stupid thing to overcome the issue. And good luck getting any input back from the machine that may help explain the problem.

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  17. Re:Oh well by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This may be a stupid question but ... This space walk is to replace a faulty circuit breaker right? Is it just me, or would it not be much smarter to put the circuit breakers on the INSIDE of the station? I mean, Isn't this a bit like putting the fuse box on the roof of your house?

  18. Abandon in place by p51d007 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This stupid white elephant needs to be put down. It was a stupid idea in the first place.....Why? Because it is in the hands of two (or more) governments who know nothing about how to run a business. Put the space program in the hands of private businesses and watch how well it works. How much did it cost NASA to put the first American in space versus how much it costs the Rutan group to put the first private human in space? With cost overruns, stupidity, etc.....it's no wonder NASA can't hardly do anything right anymore. I use to be a big fan of NASA in the "golden age" but not anymore. They don't have a goal....in the old days it was beat the Soviets to the moon, since then it's been stumbling to find something to do to keep the gravy train of money funneling to it's doors. A lot of good scientific research has been funneled from NASA to the private sector, but that has pretty much stopped, since they can't do anything right anymore. The shuttle was for building the space station, and the space station was for the shuttle to bring people to it. Hardly a worthy goal if you ask me.

  19. Wardrobe malfunction? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Is the correct term for what happened a "Wardrobe malfunction"

  20. Re:Oh well by Rei · · Score: 3, Funny

    One of the most astute questions I've ever seen posted by an AC :)

    Not only is it like putting your fuse box on the roof of your house, it's like putting your fuse box on the roof of your house, and instead of getting a ladder to go up to fix it, you're given a trampoline. ;) Space isn't friendly, even with space suits.

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  21. Mir Scientists Study Effects of Weightlessness by ABEND · · Score: 3, Funny

    KOROLYOV, RUSSIA--U.S. and Russian scientists are increasingly excited about the Mir space station project, which promises to reveal more than has ever been known about the scientific relationship between weightlessness and mortal terror.

    "By stranding our scientists on a dilapidated space station with faulty wiring, loose hardware, and malfunctioning air systems," NASA head Daniel Goldin said, "we have created extremely favorable conditions for learning about spaceborne panic."

    The two Russians and one American on board the station are reportedly terrified beyond lucidity.

    Among the groundbreaking experiments conducted on board Mir: a June 25 collision with a cargo craft that depressurized the Spektr module; last week's emergency power shortage, caused by a disconnected cable; and the periodic release of "dry ice" steam that simulates a shipboard fire. All have been deemed a huge success by agency heads.

    "They are in a constant state of what aerospace scientists term 'mind-shattering terror,' frightened for their very lives," Russian mission director Vladimir Solovyov said. "And we have not even used the hull-mounted Alien puppet that taps on the window yet."

    "We have also taken huge leaps in our understanding of the patterns created when one wets his pants in the weightlessness of space," Solovyov said. "The urine spreads out in an expanding sphere, something we did not expect."

    Taking a break from his busy schedule, astronaut Michael Foale told ABC News reporters: "Where's my mommy?"

    "Please tell me the access code to the Soyuz capsule," Russian cosmonaut Aleksandr Lazutkin said. "I would like to return to the chaotic government and widespread hunger of my homeland."

    Scientists expect to gain even more useful data during an experiment at 3 a.m. tomorrow. As the astronauts sleep, whirling red siren lights will flood the cabin while an ear-splitting klaxon alarm jolts them awake.

    Detailed scientific data will then be collected on such variables as open weeping, uncontrollable spontaneous defecation and unusual hair loss.

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