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Indiana Launches Statewide Productivity System

TaylorJo writes "Lt. Governor of Indiana Kathy Davis today unveiled a new technology program designed to give all Hoosiers free access to a full suite of computer software tools. The SimIndiana software permits residents to access their personal files and applications from any computer at any time. The software can be downloaded on the SimIndiana site, but requires Windows, and registration on the site, to use it. The program also provides an email address and remote storage on SimIndiana servers."

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  1. Multi-platform by AKAImBatman · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The software can be downloaded on the SimIndiana site, but requires Windows, and registration on the site, to use it.

    See? They should have written it in Java.

    1. Re:Multi-platform by micolous · · Score: 2, Funny

      Just because it's Java doesn't mean it will run on everything. It will run on a lot of things, I'll give you that, but I personally find the Linux x86 version of Java to have many errors with it's forms that aren't present in the Win32 version. My bank's online banking system was a great example of this, then they started using HTML to do everything (probably after people complaining).

      Flash is a slightly better option, as the specs are published such that you can make your own player/interpreter. Though it won't work on old hardware. Using scripts on the server end and allowing access via a web browser would be best, and possibly have the option of wether or not you wish to use Flash for the more techincal bits that HTML can't do.

      They could have written it in <insert open scripting language here>, using <insert favourite widget toolkit>. That would have done the trick, provided it's well supported across most platforms and isn't difficult or huge to install.

      I'll leave you with a quote which is fairly relevant to your comment :P

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  2. I'll pass, thanks. by KevinKnSC · · Score: 5, Funny
    Davis said that once the account is set up, the software will allow for e-mail, remote printing, spreadsheets, calendars and other computer tools at any computer. Users' documents are then stored on a remote, secure server and can be accessed via the Internet.

    Sounds good to me. I can't think of any reason not to trust government contractors with my personal information.

    1. Re:I'll pass, thanks. by caseydk · · Score: 4, Insightful


      What are the TOS?

      I wonder what's going to happen the first time they start to lose their users' data? Do you sue the government knowing that the settlement will just be funded by charging the comsumer (ie the public) more?

      I'm sure we'll be able to trust Indiana as an honest player. People gripe about Google scanning your email, but other seem to think that the government should store their files for them?

      (former Indiana resident for 4 years during college)

    2. Re:I'll pass, thanks. by FauxPasIII · · Score: 4, Insightful

      > People gripe about Google scanning your email, but other seem to think that the government should store their files for them?

      I can't vote to oust the CEO of Google.

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    3. Re:I'll pass, thanks. by radulovich · · Score: 3, Informative

      Many people who use SimDesk share your concern about the privacy of their information. In fact, that is often a key reason why they use SimDesk (and one of the reasons I chose to work at SimDesk).

      SimDesk takes a lot of pride in developing secure products. One example of that is shown in how we do our file encryption.

      By default, all of your files that sit on our World Wide Server are encrypted with 128-bit AES encryption. This encryption is quite a bit stronger than the old DES and Triple-DES used by many other products. Please see question 15 on this FAQ from NIST for more details about the strength of AES - http://csrc.nist.gov/CryptoToolkit/aes/aesfact.htm l
      .
      For the record, our customers have the option of replacing it with something stronger, or even their own algorithm if they prefer. AES is our default because it is a proven algorithm which has undergone quite a bit of testing by people much smarter than I. This is why AES has been certified by NIST to replace DES - http://cio.doe.gov/ITReform/ArchitectureStandards/ stds_activity/FIPS197.htm.

      Further, the files are actually encrypted on your computer before they are even sent over the internet. This has a nice benefit - your files are stored on the World Wide Server in that same encrypted form. This protects your privacy by making your sensitive information that much more resistant to hackers.

      I invite you to read the white paper I wrote about our security at http://www.simdesk.com/thought_leadership/white_pa pers/pdf/security.pdf . We are always striving to make our products more secure, and we would appreciate any comments or suggestions that you might have.

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      Mark Radulovich, CISSP, NSA/IAM
      Director of Strategic Analysis
      SimDesk Technologies, Inc.

  3. The first step... by gevmage · · Score: 4, Insightful
    I wonder how long it will take before it's required to have this access to pay taxes, register to vote, etc? At that point, I'd be annoyed.

    Craig Steffen, former Indiana resident

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    1. Re:The first step... by dilettante · · Score: 4, Informative
      I think the population of Indiana would start a civil war before they'd submit to being required to use a computer by the government. I mean, these are people who've rejected daylight savings time.

      -Another Former Hoosier

    2. Re:The first step... by blanks · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Annoyed? I think this would be a nice step in making tax payment easier and faster, as well as registering to vote, It could make it easier to do many things too that are state related, car tags, paying / viewing tickets (speeding for ex).

      I can see this having alot of features that could make this a really useful tool to residents if it was done well, and if it was used affectivly.

    3. Re:The first step... by cynic10508 · · Score: 3, Informative

      these are people who've rejected daylight savings time.

      The real conflict aren't the pesky farmers kicking up a fit. The conflict is certain areas of Indiana want to remain on central time (i.e. Lake County and Evansville) while the rest wants to go on eastern time. So the problems they face is drawing the lines to make enough people happen to get the vote passed.

    4. Re:The first step... by tbone1 · · Score: 2, Funny
      And required to buy Windows machines, no less, said the iMac-owning Hoosier.

      Feh. More pork from the Indiana government. Why don't they give us something useful, like software that will translate Julia Carson's comments into English?

      (And yes, I am a Hoosier resident and taxpayer who owns an iMac.)

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    5. Re:The first step... by MacBrave · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I live in Indiana, and I don't want to change because changing all your clocks twice a year is a pain in the butt.

      I lived in Michigan from 1990-1998 and failed to understand the big deal about daylight savings time. In the winter it was dark by 5pm and in the summer it didn't get dark until 10pm.

    6. Re:The first step... by cide1 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I agree, changing all the clocks is just a pain. The current system has worked well so far, why change? I have yet to find software that can't cope with it, and it's nice to not have to change the VCR, your watch, the clock in your car, the clock in your other car, the wall clock, the microwave, the oven, the alarm clock, the answering machine, and whatever else has a clock these days.

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    7. Re:The first step... by nelsonal · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It was sweet getting to watch the late shows early after everyone else had switched. Doesn't Gary switch with Chicago?
      FWIW, Ben Franklin came up with the idea as a way for farmers to more or less work with the sun (and not be vastly different from city folk's schedules) in the 1700s. It was implemented in the oil crisis to reduce electricity consumption. I think we keep it around now so politicians can laugh at the folks who show up an hour late/or early to church or other Sunday meetings.

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    8. Re:The first step... by LinuxHam · · Score: 2, Informative

      FWIW, Ben Franklin came up with the idea as a way for farmers to more or less work with the sun (and not be vastly different from city folk's schedules) in the 1700s

      It goes a LOT deeper than that. I gave the totally wrong description (i.e. farmers) to my friend's kid and ended up having to look up the correct info. It had a lot more to do with train schedules than with farmers. Keep in mind when ole Ben was living in my 'hood, the size of the U.S. wasn't anywhere near what it was 50-100 years later when the trains really brought the issue to a head. There's a TON of history between BF and the oil crisis. See here.

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    9. Re:The first step... by wulfhere · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Amen!! I moved up to Lake County about 5 years ago (one of I think 4 counties that uses Daylight Savings Time), and changing the clocks is a TOTAL pain in the ass.

      Not to mention that in the winter, it starts getting dark about the time the kids are let out of school...

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  4. Ok Big Brother is offering me some tasty candy by mrmeval · · Score: 5, Funny

    And is offering me a ride in his shiny car.

    Ride! Ride! Ride!

    Oh, is it called SimIndiana because you can pretend to be a Hoosier?

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    1. Re:Ok Big Brother is offering me some tasty candy by cynic10508 · · Score: 2, Funny

      And is offering me a ride in his shiny car.

      I think you mean tractor.

      Ride! Ride! Ride!

      Plow! Plow! Plow!

      Oh, is it called SimIndiana because you can pretend to be a Hoosier?

      Remeber that your SimCorn should be as high as a SimElephant's eye by the Fourth of July.

  5. Best Quote ever. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny
    "but requires Windows, and registration on the site, to use it. The program also provides an email address and remote storage on SimIndiana servers."

    NO! Not registration! How will this site ever survive if they require registration!?

    Anyways.. could this be the worst statement to try and appeal something to the /. crowd? It has Windows, registration, and remote storage all in the same paragraph.

  6. New from Maxis by worst_name_ever · · Score: 5, Funny

    SimIndiana is finally out? Cool, where do I get the demo and how do I send in the tornadoes?

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  7. You get... by GuyinVA · · Score: 2, Insightful

    ...what you pay for.

  8. One word: by tomknight · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Good

    Okay, a few more words....
    Yes, you need to use Windows, and yes, we can't really trust the government (the next government, or maybe the one after that) with our personal/sensitive data/pr0n, but isn't it a good thing in principle that this is happening?

    Tom.

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    1. Re:One word: by pointym5 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Why should a Mac-using taxpayer be happy about this?

    2. Re:One word: by tomknight · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Or a linux using tax-payer, indeed?
      Because it's a sign that local government is getting clued up about computers.

      Having to use a Windows client does indeed suck. Maybe Apple will see the potential damage to its business and push for a diversity?

      Tom.

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    3. Re:One word: by NineNine · · Score: 3, Funny

      A Mac-using taxpayer should be happy that they didn't squander a ton of money to produce software that only a handful of people will use.

    4. Re:One word: by butane_bob2003 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Chiming in: Or linux users for that matter. Apps like this are probably best written in Java, or it should be entirely web based and work in at least IE, Mozilla and Opera.
      I saw nothing about Open Source on the SimIndiana site, but this app should definately be open source software. Given taxpayers can benefit from it's use, but they should also have some say in the design aspects (like supported platforms) seeing as how they are intended client. Nothing like ignoring your intended client's needs/desires/whims to turn them off from your software. I guess the folks in charge assume that Everybody in Indiana uses Windows, or they don't matter. It's also probable that all of the publicly accessible computers (at libraries, etc) are running Windows, maybe users of these machines are the intended clients.

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  9. Tried to create an account... by herrvinny · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Tried to create an account, but the site's getting slow. Anyway, at the whatis page says:

    Every student, every parent, every business, EVERYONE who lives in the State of Indiana can use SimIndiana. The only requirement is that you register for the software with a valid Indiana address.

    Can't we forge an address anyway? NY Times thinks I'm from Anchorage, Alaska.

    If you create a document in SimWord® (SimIndiana's word processor), you do not have to save it to a disk or to a computer's hard drive. With SimIndiana, you have the option to save your document in your virtual drive on the SimIndiana server.

    It's simply a glorified virtual hard disk service, paid for by the government.

    1. Re:Tried to create an account... by caseydk · · Score: 2, Insightful


      Odds are they're going to try to reconcile the number of accounts at a given address to tax records and/or school records.

      Gov:

      "We have 3 thousand people who seem to live at 100 Main St, Indianapolis, but only 3 people filed taxes listing that address. Hmmm..."

    2. Re:Tried to create an account... by Unnngh! · · Score: 2, Insightful
      The funny thing is, the TOS does not specify that you actually must live in Indiana. How on earth are they going to verify that each address is a valid address? How about multiple computers at a single address (i.e. re-registrations when you forget your login, your kid registers after you have, etc.)?

      But after the posting of this article, the service will probably be more SimSlashdot than SimIndiana;)

    3. Re:Tried to create an account... by Politburo · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Can't we forge an address anyway? NY Times thinks I'm from Anchorage, Alaska

      NY Times isn't the government. It is a federal crime to lie on a federal form. I'm sure there are similar state laws, but I don't think this would quite count as an official form. However, it may fall under wire fraud statutes, depending on where you live (NY times forgery may also fall under these statutes).

    4. Re:Tried to create an account... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      From their help page:

      We welcome your questions and comments about SimIndiana®. ...
      We are located at:
      6510 West Sam Houston Pkwy. N.
      Suite 100
      Houston, Texas 77041

    5. Re:Tried to create an account... by tbone1 · · Score: 3, Funny
      The funny thing is, the TOS does not specify that you actually must live in Indiana. How on earth are they going to verify that each address is a valid address?

      Simple. Answer the following questions:

      • Who won the first Indy 500?
      • Where did Kurt Vonnegut go to high school?
      • In euchre, if spades are trump, what does that make the jack of clubs?
      • Who hit the winning shot in the 1954 boys basketball championship game?
      • Whom did Gene Keady replace as basketball coach at Purdue?
      • What Congressional Medal of Honor recipient used to own the Indianapolis Motor Speedway?
      • Are you a heterosexual man who cries when Jim Nabors sings?
      • Who wrote A Girl of the Limberlost?
      • What coach led the Pacers to three ABA titles?
      • What high school's alumni include David Letterman, Jane Pauley, Wayne Gretsky, and Marylin Quayle?
      • In 1983, John Mellencamp was involved with a strange contest on MTV. What was the prize?
      • What is a Duesenburg?
      • What was Yank Rachell's primary instrument?
      • Who was Abe Martin?
      • What Hoosier author won the Pulitzer prize for literature twice?
      • What is Larry Bird's nickname?
      • Complete the following: the goblins 'll gitcha if ...
      • What is Bob Knight's middle name?
      • Name one of the national morning radio shows that originate in Indianapolis.
      • Name three current NASCAR drivers from Indiana.
      • At what age are Hoosiers required to retire to Florida?
      • What jazz guitar great is from Indiana Avenue?
      • The section of Interstate 65 interior to 465 is named after whom
      • St. Elmo's is famous for what appetizer?
      • What three rivers is Ft. Wayne built around?
      That's enough to start with ...

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  10. So... by kingstalemuffins · · Score: 2, Interesting

    you store you files on a remote server owned by the government? How much storage space do you get? What kind of privacy can you expect? Does every resident automatically get an account?

  11. I live in Indiana and this is the first I've... by Dagny+Taggert · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ...heard of this. I, too, would love to trust my state government with my important docs. After all, we all know they handle our property taxes soooo well.

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  12. Indiana is high-tech by L.+VeGas · · Score: 5, Funny

    As a matter of fact, I'm one of the legions of programmers that lost their jobs when it was outsourced to Indiana.

    I think they said it was Indiana, anyway.

  13. Corrected Story Submission by BandwidthHog · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Additions in bold:
    TaylorJo writes "Lt. Governor of Indiana Kathy Davis today unveiled a new technology program designed to give all Hoosiers who purchase Microsoft Windows free (ahem) access to a full suite of computer software tools. The SimIndiana software permits residents who have already purchased Microsoft Windows to access their personal files and applications from any computer that runs Microsoft Windows at any time. The software can be downloaded on the SimIndiana site, but requires Windows, and registration on the site, to use it. The program also provides an email address and remote storage on SimIndiana servers."
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    1. Re:Corrected Story Submission by Mz6 · · Score: 3, Funny

      Thank you for correcting the story. I wouldn't have been able to tell you were a Windows hater by your email address of billg@fuckmicrosoft.com, but your text interjections about Windows (in bold I might add) to the story totally gave it away. Thanks!

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    2. Re:Corrected Story Submission by BandwidthHog · · Score: 2, Funny

      If only we *could* replace Windows with some mythical "industry standard operating system."

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    3. Re:Corrected Story Submission by Daniel+Dvorkin · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I prefer "operating system produced by a convicted monopolist," thanks.

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  14. Good idea but.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I really wish people would make Microsoft keep its own monopoly instead of helping them by making IE only or Windows only stuff. They could've at least given the protocol so that if somebody with a Mac or something else wanted to could make their own.

    Really, I thought government was supposed to be generally non-discriminatory. It's like "Congrats! We have a super-duper new highway system. Oh, only Ford motor vehicles can use it."

  15. This Is Cool! by blueZhift · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This is really cool. This is the first attempt that I've seen by any state government to deliver some really useful technology to their citizens. Heck, I'm happy just being able to pay parking tickets online, this SimIndiana has online productivity apps for gosh sakes!

    While I'm sure they'll get the usual criticism, I admire and salute their attempt to deliver something truly useful to the good people of Indiana. The only real problem I see with this is reaching the many people who don't have access to the technology needed to use SimIndiana. In the future it may be very useful to provide similar services that can be accessed via cel phone. Afterall, these days everyone and their grandma has a cel phone.

    Again, Kudos to Indiana!

  16. Texas ? by Quixote · · Score: 4, Interesting
    I am reading the TOS right now. This caught my attention:

    6. User Conduct You are responsible for any content that You store, post or transmit on or through the Service. You will not use the Service to store, distribute, link to, or solicit content that:

    • . . . .
    • Specifically advertises firearms or ammunition, t obacco[sic], alcohol, pornography, or any other product or service that is illegal in Texas, or the domicile of either the distributor or recipient;

    WTF? Is this SimIndiana or SimTexas ?

    1. Re:Texas ? by Alan+Cox · · Score: 3, Funny

      Presumably its outsourced to texas then. Nothing says Indiana can't outsource its government to Texas does it ? I mean we seem to have outsourced ours to Washington

    2. Re:Texas ? by grahamdrew · · Score: 3, Funny

      Firearms and ammunition illegal in Texas, tha's a good one....

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  17. Heh! by dannyelfman · · Score: 3, Insightful
    I wonder how long it will take before some enterprising 12 year old figures out how to own this system.

    Was it Regan who said, ``Government does what doesn't need to be done, poorly''?

  18. Might Shut Down by thpdg · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The last bits of the article report that the system is just a 2 year trial, with possible extension. What happens at that time? Your materials will magically disappear? Thousands of warnings get sent out that you miss, and next thing you know, you life's work, written in SimWord, which can only be opened by SimWord, is gone forever? Even if you have the file, you have no license to SimWord to open it? This is like trusting any of the other dot-com gimmicks that came and went in the past 10 years. Where is the mp3.com archive today? What about Hotmail suddenly closing accounts? What if it is a SimIndiana account, and you had all your financial reports on there?
    This is just too freaking dangerous to be more then just a handy accessory, but how many people will take it seriously?

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    1. Re:Might Shut Down by Kid+Brother+of+St.+A · · Score: 3, Informative
      They said on the Indianapolis tv news this morning that the service was going to be provided free of charge for the first two years, and then if the state government keeps it, it would be paid for by taxpayer dollars. Here's a link to the story in the Indianapolis Star. Nice quote at the end by a Purdue prof:
      The $6 million cost -- about $1 per Hoosier -- is being footed by SimDesk Technologies, which also has brought the technology to users in Houston and Chicago. The Houston-based firm has several Indiana investors, Davis said, and is partnering with Hewlett-Packard NonStop servers to provide the service. The program will be offered free for two years, Davis said. After that, the state will decide whether to continue it. Kyle Lutes, associate professor of computer science at Purdue University, said he hadn't heard of SimDesk but expressed skepticism at the program. It seems like a good deal, he said, but the company may be using the "crack dealer method of marketing -- give it to 'em free until they're addicted." Plus, he said, many of its features already are available for free online.
  19. I can see it now.... by RegalBegal · · Score: 4, Funny

    Hey there was a glitch in the network thingie and I found these peektures of a hot girl.

    wait a minute, that's....JENNY COME DOWN HERE NOW!!!! AND WHEN DID YOU GET THAT TATTOO?!@?

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  20. How is this legal? by robertjw · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I work for a tax software company. Last year the IRS and many state governments were forced to remove their free online tax services because they competed with private tax software providers.

    How is it that the state of Indiana can provide a free product that competes directly with everyone from yahoo mail to wordperfect and get away with it. I'm guessing this site won't be up for long - the courts will shut time down in a hurry.

  21. Broadband required? by MacBrave · · Score: 3, Insightful

    From the system requirements:
    "TCP/IP (Internet Connection required for installation); 56 Kbps or higher modem (128 Kbps ISDN or better recommended)."

    Considering most of Indiana is rural and those living in those areas with internet connectiions are still using 56K dial-up, this could be a big stumbling block to geeting SimIndiana off the ground.

    My parents and MIL live in a rural area of Indiana and even though they have 56k modems the phone line quality is so poor that 29.2kbps is the best they can get.

  22. What does this buy you? by whoisjoe · · Score: 2, Interesting

    OK, so it would appear that this is really a desktop application which accesses a centralized file store.

    Other than a centralized place for files (which is also available, BTW, from Yahoo!), I fail to see what this buys you over, say OpenOffice.

    With OpenOffice, you don't have to worry about whether or not the state is going to continue to pay for the system after two years, plus it runs on far more platforms than SimIndiana.

  23. More TOS goodness by Quixote · · Score: 5, Insightful
    This caught my eye:

    This State of Indiana and STI have a three year contract for STI to provide the Services and Software to city residents; however, the State of Indiana has the right to terminate this contract earlier. Therefore, any data, files or other information You store on an STI server may be deleted if the contract between STI and the State of Indiana is terminated or when it expires, if not sooner. STI cannot guarantee that You will be warned before Your data, files, email, content, or other information is deleted. (emphasis mine)

    Let me get this straight: after they've got the citizens of Indiana using this system for 3 years, they'll be able to blackmail the state from ever terminating the contract. Wow....

  24. Does it include this? by Anti+Frozt · · Score: 2, Insightful
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  25. Or a web browser by TrentL · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I've seen some of the things people are doing with HTML, CSS and JavaScript these days. We aren't that far from having powerful office tools that are used via a web browser. Heck, we may already be there.

  26. Offtopic? by RegalBegal · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I think the thought of having personal files and access to personal files on a central resource could yeild comical problems such as a father finding his daughter nude from her indiana boyfriend's personal files. No class? maybe. Offtopic? nahh.

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  27. More outsourcing by 14erCleaner · · Score: 3, Funny
    You know, at first read I thought this said "India". Like maybe they were worried about recent reports that the outsourcing trend was slacking off.

    Maybe the state of Indiana wants to get in on the offshore outsourcing business anyway. It wouldn't be the first time somebody confused North America with India.

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  28. Seen this Before by techsoldaten · · Score: 5, Informative

    I don't want to rain on anyone's parade, but I have experience with this company and this product and my experience was that they are far from perfect.

    They came into my daughter's school about a year ago promising the same thing - free applications, email and file storage. And the software seemed really nice - there is a word processor, a spreadsheet, an email client, etc.

    But there were also major issues with how the software worked (or, in some cases, didn't work). People had problems installing the software, performance problems after it was installed (the sim software ran as a memory-resident application from that point forward, which was a huge problem for older machines), crashes, and no one seemed to know how to uninstall the software once it was on the machine. Emails were not getting through, people had trouble retrieving files they thought they had saved (or perhaps the files were not being saved at all).

    After a 6 month pilot project we scrapped the program due to complaints from parents. The group participating in the program were some technically savvy parents, most of whom are capable of dealing with routine issues like file management and email. I wonder what will happen when a whoel state comes online and trys to use this stuff.

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  29. Heres the EULA by bigkahunafish · · Score: 2, Informative

    ND USER LICENSE AGREEMENT AND TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF USE IMPORTANT: THIS SOFTWARE END USER LICENSE AGREEMENT AND TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF USE ("EULA") IS A LEGAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN YOU (EITHER AN INDIVIDUAL OR AN ENTITY) AND SIMDESK TECHNOLOGIES. READ IT CAREFULLY. IT PROVIDES A LICENSE TO USE AND RESTRICTIONS ON USE OF THE SOFTWARE AND CONTAINS WARRANTY AND LIABILITY DISCLAIMERS. BY CLICKING THE "I ACCEPT" BUTTON AND/OR ACCESSING ANY PART OF THE SIMDESK TECHNOLOGIES SOFTWARE APPLICATIONS OR ACCESSING ANY OTHER SERVICE (COLLECTIVELY THE "SERVICE") YOU REPRESENT THAT YOU ARE EITHER OVER THE AGE OF 18 OR HAVE OBTAINED YOUR PARENT'S CONSENT TO REGISTER FOR THE SERVICE, AND THAT YOU AGREE TO ALL THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF THIS EULA. IF YOU DO NOT AGREE TO THESE TERMS, CLICK THE "CANCEL" BUTTON; THE REGISTRATION PROCESS WILL NOT CONTINUE AND YOU WILL HAVE NO AUTHORITY TO USE THE SERVICE. 1. Definitions A. "Simdesk Technologies" means Simdesk Technologies, Inc. and itandicensors, if any. B. "Software" means only the Simdesk Technologies software program(s) and any third party software programs, in each case supplied by Simdesk Technologies online and/or downloadable (as applicable), including applications such as word processing, spreadsheet, personal scheduling, e-mail, and corresponding documentation, associated media, printed materials, and online or electronic documentation, and all updates or upgrades of the above that are provided to you, all under the terms set forth below. C. "Service "means the provision of the Software and your storage of data, files, email or other information on Simdesk Technologies' servers. Such Service and storage are subject to the terms and conditions of this EULA. 2. License Grants A. Simdesk Technologies grants you a non-exclusive, non-transferable, personal, non-sublicensable license ("License") to use the object code version of the Software for installation and use on a single desktop computer that has a Windows PC operating system (desktop PC versions of Windows 98, 2000, NT, ME and XP (Home and Professional)) or a Linux desktop operating system and/or to access Software using a web browser over the internet. A license for the Software may not be shared, installed or used concurrently on different computers. B. You agree that Simdesk technologies may audit your use of the Software for compliance with these terms at any time. In the event that such audit reveals any use of the Software by you other than in full compliance with the terms of this Agreement, you shall reimburse Simdesk technologies for all reasonable expenses related to such audit in addition to any other liabilities you may incur as a result of such non-compliance. 3. License Restrictions A. You may not and you agree you will not make or distribute copies of the Software, or electronically transfer the Software from one computer to another or over a network. B. You may not and you agree you will not alter, merge, modify, adapt or translate the Software, or create derivative works based upon the Software, or decompile, reverse engineer, disassemble, or take any action to derive a source code equivalent of the Software or otherwise reduce the Software to a human-perceivable form. C. You may not and you agree you will not sell, rent, lease, sublicense or commercially exploit any part of the Software or Service. D. You may not and you agree you will not remove or alter any trademark, trade names, product names, logo, copyright or other proprietary notices, legends, symbols or labels in the Software. E. You may not and you agree you will not export the Software into any country prohibited by the United States Export Administration Act and the regulations thereunder. F. You may not and you agree you will not use the Software to develop any software or other technology having the same primary function as the Software, including but not limited to using the Software in any development or test procedure that seeks to develop like software or other technology, or to determine if such softw

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  30. SimHouston by akpoff · · Score: 3, Informative
    We have the same thing in the City of Houston (as mentioned in the article about SimDesk). The city took an interesting route for granting access -- you have to have a library card to get in. All the public library have terminals for easy access as well as the SimHouston site.

    Going the public library route is pretty smart -- a lot of people who can't afford computers were already going to the library for information so this gives them easy access to a personal workspace and productivity tools. It also has the possible added benefit of increasing library use and hence funding. That said, I don't use it and nobody I personally know use it. No doubt because we all have computers at home and the fact the city hasn't done a great job of promoting it.

    Oh yeah, did I mention not wanting to keep all my email, wordprocessing, spreadsheet and contact information on a government server? I like knowing my data is on a computer I control. Before I seriously consider signing-up for any roaming desktop product I want all my data kept in an encrypted data store that I alone have the key for. Requiring a search warrant to access my data is a good procedural requirement but like the lock on my front door I want a physical barrier to keep out the curious and opportunistic.