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Jobs Previews Displays, Tiger at WWDC

DonaldGelman writes "Apple has just announced a 30-inch Studio Display capable of displaying a resolution of 2560x1600. The display requires a new Nvidia card with 2 parallel DVI connections. The display is going to retail for $3299 in August, and the Nvidia card for around $599." Jobs also announced new 20- and 23-inch displays, for $1299 and $1999 in July. All three feature a new aluminum enclosure, and DVI. Also from WWDC... Jobs also previewed Tiger, with Spotlight (fast iTunes-like searching in all apps, and systemwide), Dashboard (Konfabulator-like widgets combined with Exposé for fast showing/hiding), Automator (visual AppleScript, combining prewritten actions into scripts), H.264 code for QuickTime (high definition scalable video from MPEG), iChat AV conferencing (up to 10 for audio, four for video), RSS reading in Safari, Core Image and Core Video (realtime filters at the core OS level), and system-wide Sync Services. All of this is extensible (except for iChat conferencing), with SDKs available for developers. There's a lot here, and a more detailed description is forthcoming. Tiger will be available in the first half of 2005.

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  1. iPod SDK! by American+AC+in+Paris · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Dear Steve,

    Could you give us an SDK for the iPod? We've been very good boys and girls this year, and we promise to be nice with it.

    Thank you,
    AAiP

    P.S.: It'd be really cool if you could make it your "Oh, and one more thing..." We love it when you do that.

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    1. Re:iPod SDK! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      With such a huge screen, could this be an indication of a move into the family room? Or, AirTunes and Airport Extreme could be integrated with AirVideo using H264 and all Apple would need is a set top box (with DVI, similar to El Gato's Eye Home) and bam... a user would have access to all content on their mac in another room on their "TV" or any other display hooked into a set top box, with remote of course. Using that bandwidth couldn't they set up dumb clients that could run applications off a family server as well? Crazy theories are fun!

    2. Re:iPod SDK! by ScottGant · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You left out the biggest market share...the multi-billion dollar-a-year printing industry. Macs totally and completely rule this still.

      After all these years, Macs still run that industry. Sure, there are people that use PC's in the industry, but they are very few and far between.

      But, from what I've seen in my travels around printing, it's dying a slow death thanks to online content. Packaging is the place to be in printing/graphic arts now adays...just FYI for you youngsters out there looking to get into the industry.

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    3. Re:iPod SDK! by dasmegabyte · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Wait -- you're claiming that slashdot, the community which buys every consumer device regardless of its original intent solely to take it apart and install Linux on it, knows the "true value of things?"

      I'm sorry man, but in a capitalist society, the "true value of things" is set by how much people will pay for them. People will pay more than the selling price to get their hands on an iPod Mini. Most people won't even pay MSRP for a Creative Zen. This is because the iPod Mini is not, as you suggest, "worse" than most major mp3 players, but because it is better in every way the counts for a consumer device. It is easy and quick to learn, load and use. It has sufficiently long life and sufficiently good sound quality. It is small but sturdy and controllable with one hand. There are only two connectors to hook up and few external controls to break. It looks clean and nice(and isn't the least bit shiny, mind you). And it has a great warranty.

      How is it worse than other players? Each of its competitors fails in one or more of the above strengths. Some have more features but a hideous interface. Some have a nice interface, but are too delicate. Only the cost, which enough people seem willing to pay to make it foolish for them to charge less, is consistantly "worse" than its competitors...but if you care so much about cost that you're willing to buy inferior goods, go get whatever RCA device they're selling at WalMart and give up the pretense that you want a hi-tech device. Price and quality are, aside from some really good deals, mutually exclusive -- because any company that cares enough to make real quality gear should be smart enough to charge for it.

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    4. Re:iPod SDK! by NanoGator · · Score: 5, Informative

      "B.) It's not for you Mr. Sixpack, it's for us artists. We plunk down $3000 -- $4000 once in a while for stuff like this."

      Just wanted to apologize to everybody. That sounded elitist. I didn't mean for it to.

      I'll add a lil more info here: The ability to see that many pixels on the screen is VERY important. Imagine trying to work at theater resolution (>2,000 pixels...) and only seeing a small chunk at a time, or seeing it downsized to where some of the detail is lost. That's problematic. Monitors that can run at >1,600 pixels are hard to come by. So if Apple is successful here, it'll drive prices down. Either we snag the Apple monitor, or the lower budget places get more bang for their buck.

      That's why I was offended at the previous poster's comment. I wasn't trying to say "Im better than you", but rather "you're not the only person in the world". Sorry I didn't communicate that more clearly the first time.

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  2. Microsoft... by smaug195 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Let the copying of Tiger features into Longhorn... begin!

    1. Re:Microsoft... by sam_doshi · · Score: 5, Informative

      Actually I think Apple are already on to this: See here

    2. Re:Microsoft... by dasmegabyte · · Score: 5, Interesting

      What, you mean like the indexing of all content based on meta data?

      Of course, Longhorn's implementation of this by filesystem is completely different from Apple's implementation of it (creation of XML files which are then compiled into a fast, easy to read database)...but the end result will be transparent to the user. It's a chicken-and-egg thing. Apple started indexing content by metadata in Sherlock and the iLife apps. Microsoft says, "yeah, well we're gonna build it into our OS!" So Apple breaks out the Sherlock system and integrates it into the GUI...thus making it LOOK like an OS.

      Off topic, check out which site they chose for the screenshot of RSS in Safari. Cowboy Neal is famous once again!

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    3. Re:Microsoft... by Trillan · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Konfabulator is just desk accessories, using Javascript instad of C. Sorry, that refinement is not worth a wheelbarrow of cash. I have every sympathy for Arlo and Perry, but it just isn't that unique an idea. I mean, Mac has provided desk "widgets" without Javascript in 1984... and Windows did it with Javascript in 1998.

      On the other hand, Spotlight sounds nothing like Launchbar. TFG. Have you actually tried Launchbar?

  3. To those who ask "What's WWDC?"... by tcopeland · · Score: 5, Informative

    ... it's Apple's WorldWide Developer Conference.

  4. SHHHH.... by Frac · · Score: 5, Funny

    If it's quiet around you, you can probably hear the collective screaming of the Longhorn team from Redmond WA that sounds like "AGHGHGHGHHGHHHHHH!!!!"

    "Peter, did you copy all that down?"
    "I got only the first half before I fainted. You?"
    "I got most of it. Ok, the Longhorn features spec meeting is Wednesday morning, we have two days to put all that new Tiger stuff in!"

    1. Re:SHHHH.... by eyeball · · Score: 5, Funny

      If it's quiet around you, you can probably hear the collective screaming of the Longhorn team from Redmond WA that sounds like "AGHGHGHGHHGHHHHHH!!!!"

      "Peter, did you copy all that down?"
      "I got only the first half before I fainted. You?"
      "I got most of it. Ok, the Longhorn features spec meeting is Wednesday morning, we have two days to put all that new Tiger stuff in!"


      Wow, it's going to be such a long time before Microsoft copies OSX Tiger, and Linux gets around to copying Microsoft Longhorn. Attention Linux developers: cut out the middle-man and start copying Tiger directly.

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  5. Screen Shots on Cinema Displays by umrgregg · · Score: 5, Informative

    For those of you wondering where the pictures on the cinema displays came from it's the Jungfrau Region of Switerland. The valley is the Lauterbrunnen Valley. Now if I could only get the display to go with the picture...

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  6. Safari RSS Screenshot by Apollo · · Score: 5, Informative

    A nice Safari RSS screenshot, starring our favorite site.

  7. Re:Now this is exciting... by FirstTimeCaller · · Score: 5, Funny

    I knew I picked a bad week to not be rich.

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  8. Re:Okay by squiggleslash · · Score: 5, Insightful
    They're things like calculators, notepads, etc. Little applications designed to complement the application you're running.

    This is a completely Apple-created innovation and is not a rip-off. Oh no. Definitely not.

    No, I'm serious. Really. Because despite all the talk of it being a clone of Konfabulator, it appears, in essense, to be Apple's original Desk Accessories brought into the 21st Century. Which is nice.

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  9. You missed the important part. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    These new displays are:

    1. Larger

    2. Use DVI instead of ADC, so you don't have to have mac hardware to use them.

    1. Re:You missed the important part. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      The 30-inch needs DVI Dual-Link (DDL), instead of Single-Link. The docs and presentations are really directed towards people who would be buying a mac to use this with. The 'Apple Display Technology' PDF that's linked on their website about the new displays says you can use the 30-inch on a WIndows PC if the card there handles DVI Dual-Link.

      The dual-port DVI card lets you connect two 30-inch displays to one machine. The 30-inch display doesn't use both DVI ports on the card.

  10. 10.4 Server by Johnny+Mnemonic · · Score: 5, Informative


    Not announced on stage, but previewed off, is 10.4 Server: includes 100% 64bit libs, ACLs, iChat server, SUS. Also includes NT migration tool, improved email, and a one-click SOHO setup. Nice bump.

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  11. Jabber based iChat server by Libertius · · Score: 5, Informative

    "You can now host your own iChat server. Instant Messaging serves as a vital means of communication for organizations of all sizes, so it's useful to deploy and run your own private and secure IM server. Based on the open source Jabber project, the new iChat server in Tiger Server lets your company protect its internal communications by defining its own namespace, using SSL/TLS encryption to ensure privacy, and Kerboros for authorization. The iChat server works with both the iChat client in Mac OS X Tiger and popular open source clients available for Windows, Linux and even PDAs."

    http://www.apple.com/server/macosx/tiger/

  12. HFS+ support, SQLite, etc. by This+is+outrageous! · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Three bits I found interesting here: in Tiger,
    • UNIX utilities such as cp, tar and nsync can properly handle HFS+ resource forks
    • command-line access to Spotlight
    • new Open Source libraries for XML transformations (libxslt) and data persistence (SQLite)
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  13. Re:Longhorn like requirements! by Libertius · · Score: 5, Informative

    "The performance gains and features supported by Core Image ultimately depend on the graphics card. Graphics cards capable of pixel-level programming deliver the best performance. But Core Image automatically scales as appropriate for systems with older graphics cards, for compatibility with any Tiger-compatible Mac."

  14. What would Tony say? by Prince+Vegeta+SSJ4 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Apple has just announced a 30-inch Studio Display capable of displaying a resolution of 2560x1600

    Jobs also previewed Tiger

    There Grrrrrrreaat!

  15. Re:Why do they keep doing this. by Trillan · · Score: 5, Informative

    I really hate reading this panic "they're stealing!" attitude every time.

    Let's do a review here, okay?"

    • 1984: Apple introduces desk accesories. Little programs that go anywhere on the desktop and can be run in parallel to other applications.
    • 1986-ish: Apple introduces Multifinder.
    • 1990-ish: Apple introduces System 7, and deprecates DAs.
    • 1998: Windows 98, complete with active desktop and on-desktop widgets.
    • 2000-ish: Apple introduces Mac OS X. Widgets now go in the dock.
    • 2002-ish: Apple moves widgets to the menu bar.
    • 2003-ish: Konfabulator is born.
    • 2004: Apple moves widgets to the desktop and adds javascript.

    Frankly, Konfabulator was a low hanging fruit. It didn't really introduce anything except using Javascript, it just tied together a batch of old technology with a very old Apple idea. It's common sense to realize that Apple would move widgets back onto the desktop and add Javascript support once they realized how well it would work out. About the only thing you can really take issue with is Apple's decision to use Javascript.

  16. Apple drops MSFT stock price by Random+BedHead+Ed · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Hey, check out the Dashboard page here:

    http://www.apple.com/macosx/tiger/dashboard.html

    On the simulated Dashboard you can have all sorts of nifty mini-programs called Widgets. One of Apple's sample programs is a stock price table, and they're up 7.36 percent. Microsoft is the only stock on the fictional list that's down. Direct link to the image here.

    Nice to see Apple's sense of humor. And in fact this sort of functionality is a real smack in the face to Redmond, who have updated little on their desktop (XP) in three years, while Apple has had three release cycles that have been better each time.

  17. Geezus, people... by HarveyBirdman · · Score: 5, Funny
    You're correcting the grammar of a tiger.

    Sheesh!

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  18. Slashdot and CowboyNeal on the Apple site! by llamafirst · · Score: 5, Funny
    So, how did CowboyNeal and Slashdot.org get into the image at the top of this page on the Apple site? Sucking up to Slashdot, perhaps? :-)

    http://www.apple.com/macosx/tiger/safari.html

    Also, those who are FIREFLY fans will note the movie is mentioned in the post...

  19. Apple is 1337! by metalligoth · · Score: 5, Funny

    If you look at the calculator in the Dashboard demo, you'll notice it says 1.337!

    I love a company with a sexy UNIX based OS and a sense of humor.

  20. Re:Problem with nVidia dual-channel DVI by iplead5th · · Score: 5, Informative

    They are using Dual-link DVI.

    Go to the web page Apple.com

    They are using a special NVIDIA card:

    " The groundbreaking new NVIDIA GeForce 6800 Ultra delivers the industry's first 16-pipe superscalar architecture and support for the world's fastest DDR3 memory to raise the bar for 3D graphics performance. The specifications of the GeForce 6800 Ultra GPU, are stunning: Using over 220 million transistors it supports a 256-bit interface for an effective memory bandwidth of 35.2 GB per second which delivers 600 million vertices, 6.4 billion textured pixels per second. The GPU is built on an AGP 8X board and includes 256MB of DDR3 memory for use in the most demanding graphics applications. It is the first card available to support the DVI standard dual link digital signal specification from the two DVI ports it features . This capability is required to drive the new 30-inch LCD, high resolution Apple Cinema HD display. The combination of a GeForce 6800 Ultra with a dual processor Power Mac G5 driving two 30-inch Apple Cinema HD Displays is the definitive tool for the creative professional. "

    It uses the DVI standard.

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  21. One difference from Konfabulator by Anaphiel · · Score: 5, Interesting
    In the most recent build of Konfabulator, with the "Konspose" feature that Apple seems to be aping, all of your widgets stay visible at all times, and hitting the Konspose key brings them to the front and screens the rest of your apps behind a textured background.

    In Apple's version, the widgets are hidden until the dashboard is activated, at which time they slide to the foreground.

    In my opinion, Apple's solution is a lot more elegant, and one I'd actually use. It's a subtle difference, but it's different. I also applaud the addition of the widget launcher... much better than having all widgets running at all times.

    The argument is really about whether this is a rebirth of Apple's old Desk Accessory application type or just a ripoff of the Konfabulator widget idea, or some hybrid of the two.

  22. Wheel Barrel of Money? by tyrione · · Score: 5, Interesting

    For what? For writing some cool widgets that acess interfaces Apple published allowing for that functionality to be capitalized on by themselves and any one else?

    You're acting like this Service is something that would take years of design/development to produce when these add-ons were sitting around Apple Engineering for years as fun experiments for core engineers. How do I know this? When I worked there they had plenty of 'cool' prototype ideas just waiting to be added into the OS. How do you think they are able to always add 150 new features with each new full version?

    What's next? Pay everyone who contributed to the development of XML now that Apple is integrating it into their OS? That seems to be a bit more impressive, just like the new MPEG-4, Part 10 Codecs.

  23. Re::| Damn it Apple. by Binary+Boy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I completely disagree - the only thing unique about Konfabulator was the sexy look, and much of that is inspired by OSX itself.

    ControlStrip on the classic Mac OS, DesktopX, and many other projects have provided lightweight "applets" in various ways for years. In fact, these are also quite similar to the menu bar applets on OSX, though now liberated from the cramped menu bar.

    What are the "rights of small developers"? Which aspect of Konfab is unique in the scope of computing? This reeks of the Watson/Sherlock "controversy", but only in that a developer creates a relatively sexy but not novel UI, and Apple eventually adopts a similar approach to solve the same problems for its users.

    It's hard to define where Apple should stop and third-party tools should begin. I see people confusing superficial similarities for innovation being crushed - at what point does Apple stop improving OSX and require its users to buy third-party products?

    There will no doubt be others crying about the RSS aggregator, but again these are similar solutions because they are solving the same problems for users. Should Apple just stick to the desktop and the Dock and leave all future goodness to shareware authors?

    I love shareware on OSX, I support it religiously, but at some point there has to be an acknowledgement that OS vendors will encroach as user needs are identified. I would love to see Apple develop a grant program or something similar, to honor those developers who lead the way, but I don't think it's an option to just hold back the OS.